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Earlier versions of OOTP: New to the game? A place for all new Out of the Park Baseball fans to ask questions about the game. |
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04-11-2006, 02:13 PM | #1 |
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Morale and form?
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I am new to the OOTP series (only played a couple of games of the OOTP5 free version, but I had some serious problems with CTDs...), but a old fan of the Championship and Football Manager series. I was wondering whether the game will have things like individual player's morale and some kind of "grade" for an individual's performance per game. I know that in baseball you can "read" how well a individual played in a game in almost all the aspects looking at his stats. But not if someone made three great catches at the wall. Will there be any kind of "form" in the game, like the FM series (and the football world as a whole, as every newspaper in any football country will give grades to players' performances)? PS: I am wholly newbie, including in the world of baseball. I am from Brazil, where we don't have almost any sport besides football (soccer). So, please, sorry me if my questions are too stupid, ok?
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04-11-2006, 02:20 PM | #2 |
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I am not able to answer your question directly, but what questions do you have about the game of baseball itself?
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04-11-2006, 02:32 PM | #3 |
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Well, two questions come to my mind right now. Why (and when) the American League chose to use DHs and what is a infielder's choice (is that the correct name?)?
And thank you, jm!
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04-11-2006, 02:40 PM | #4 |
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Actually it is Fielder's Choice. Generally the normal play in the infield is a throw to first. But if you have a runner on first, and you just get the quick force out at second, then you have a fielder's choice. Basically it says there could have been a play in more the once place, and the fielder chose to go with something less common. Usually a throw to first is what is done because it is the most often practiced fielding technique. Also, runners may be going and trying to get the lead runner may be more difficult then the throw to first.
The first question is a little more involved. MLB fielt that because the pitcher is seen as the automatic out, that it was useless to have them bat. So in the 70's the owners of each league voted to have a DH for the pitcher. In this way, the pitcher is no longer an automatic out, and 9 GOOD hitters would be in the linup. The NL voted against it, leaving pithcers in the linup. You will now see in NL baseball more moves, double switches, etc, but in the AL, you will see less of this stuff as a direct result of the DH. There are critics each way. Some say it takes away the strategy and don't like it. Others see pitchers stand up there, take three strikes and go sit down, saying that it's stupid to have pitchers bat. Personally I don't like the DH, but I like the American Leauge teams better. I am a Yankee fan.
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04-11-2006, 02:41 PM | #5 |
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Does this help? Honestly, if there is anything else, fire it my way.
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04-11-2006, 03:28 PM | #7 |
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Guys, you are amazing! Thank you very much. With a game like that (the screenshots displayed today are terrific!) and fans like you, it's very very easy to choose a baseball game to buy.
And certainly I will ask you more questions in the near future. Like: what a goat have to do with 98 years without a title ... (I'm a Cubs fan )
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Welcome Galeno! We don't see many from South America round these parts.
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From time to time, news articles are generated for exceptional events, like 3 HR's in a game or a no hitter. There are weekly awards for hitters and pitchers, as well as monthly ones that appear as news articles. Really, you hit the nail on the head. Players are evaluated by numbers in box scores. |
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04-11-2006, 04:13 PM | #12 |
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Accorind to Urban Legend, a cubs fan tried to take his pet goat to a game, and he was not allowed in. He then said may the cubs never again be in the world series, and they have not been there since.
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04-11-2006, 04:14 PM | #13 |
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I know, its silly.
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However, these notables are almost solely based upon individual stat performance. If the guys goes 0 for 4, but saves a 8 runs with two fence jumping death defying outfield grabs, he won't get any reward. I say "almost" because the PoG does take other great things into account like a player getting the game winning hit or homerun or such. This player could of been 1 for 4 with 3 k's and only 1 RBI, but if that RBI was an extra inning or game winning hit or homerun, you can be rewarded the PoG, even though his stat line isn't as great as other hitters in the game. |
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04-11-2006, 06:44 PM | #17 |
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On morale and form: In the FM series, besides the ratings and stats (and soccer has just a few of them, of course), morale and form have some importance in the player performance. A player with low morale (for not getting a salary raise, for being at a bad team in a loosing streak etc.) don't play so well. So, not only his ratings count, but his "high spirits" too. Of course, a good player (with good ratings) ordinarily play better then a not so good one. That's why I was trying to discover if morale would be in OOTP2006.
And form is a way to notice a player overall performance. But, of course, this is much more needed in a game that you cannot "read" with numbers, as baseball. On the goat: Yeah, I read somewhere about this story! It's a great one! I am not from New Orleans, but here in Brazil we have a kind of voodoo too, called "macumba". I will try to fix the goat's curse! Thanks again, guys.
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04-11-2006, 07:02 PM | #18 |
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Your morale and form sort of sounds like what we call intangibles.
v5 and v6 had intangibles for players they had ratings in their Loyalty - primarily impacted their $ demands Desire for winner - impacted which teams they'd play for Cluth - impacted how they did in "clutch" situations Now, what these intangibles mean in the game is a long long source of debate, particularly clutch. I have no idea if these things exist in v7. |
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