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Old 04-02-2020, 12:08 PM   #1
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What age do you promote from International Complex?

Hello all,

Just wondering at roughly what age you promote players from the International complex in your league?

I have deleted all rookie leagues, so when I promote I have to send the players directly to Low A, which is usually overflowing with players from the previous 2 years' worth of draft picks, plus promoted players.

Typically, I promote them when they are 19, if they have enough potential since they get moved at 20 automatically anyway. However, I have some high-potential players that were 16, 17 but seemed to decline at 18 and 19. I'm wondering if I need to promote them sooner? I don't think I'd want to move 16-year-olds to Low A and maybe not 17-year-olds either, but if an 18-year-old has potential it might be beneficial to move him.
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Old 04-02-2020, 12:30 PM   #2
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I think perhaps, by deleting the rookie leagues, you've created a bit of a bottleneck problem for yourself. Normally I move them into either DSL or Rookie when they reach 18, or earlier if they have talent. A year on, if they've improved, keep or move up again, or release if no improvement.
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Old 04-02-2020, 12:44 PM   #3
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Never younger than 17. I promote when they're ready, simple as that.
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Old 04-02-2020, 12:46 PM   #4
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18 sometimes 19
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Old 04-02-2020, 12:57 PM   #5
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For 2* and above typically 18 and the rest I let stay and auto promote at 20.
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Old 04-02-2020, 01:01 PM   #6
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I leave them there until they are 20 unless they have great potential and are progressing exceptionally well. Once every maybe 3 years I promote someone myself, and that is with it set to find more international free agents
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Old 04-02-2020, 01:28 PM   #7
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If they have any talent at all, 18. Otherwise, I let them get autopromoted by the AI (which is new this year, I think?).
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Old 04-02-2020, 01:54 PM   #8
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If they have any talent at all, 18. Otherwise, I let them get autopromoted by the AI (which is new this year, I think?).
Really? :scampers away to fire up v21 and see what setting my imported game decided to use:
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Old 04-02-2020, 02:03 PM   #9
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Remember they accumulate service time even in the intl complex I don't sweat it and I just wait for them to get auto promoted unless he has really good potential and I want to see some stats right away I don't think it does any harm if you leave them there think of it as a reserve roster
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Old 04-02-2020, 03:29 PM   #10
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I rarely leave anyone in the IC past 18. I usually do not leave anyone in the IC for more than 2 seasons. If they have some potential, I will promote them to the DSL when they are 17 or 16. If they show talent I try to get them to the GCL or SS when they are 18. If not as talented I may wait till they are 19 or 20. For most players, I like to see them playing games, at least in the DSL as quickly as possible.

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Old 04-02-2020, 03:29 PM   #11
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If they have any talent at all, 18. Otherwise, I let them get autopromoted by the AI (which is new this year, I think?).
They are always autopromoted at age 20. (not sure how far back that goes, but it was in 20.. and 19 I believe)
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Hello all,

Just wondering at roughly what age you promote players from the International complex in your league?

I have deleted all rookie leagues, so when I promote I have to send the players directly to Low A, which is usually overflowing with players from the previous 2 years' worth of draft picks, plus promoted players.

Typically, I promote them when they are 19, if they have enough potential since they get moved at 20 automatically anyway. However, I have some high-potential players that were 16, 17 but seemed to decline at 18 and 19. I'm wondering if I need to promote them sooner? I don't think I'd want to move 16-year-olds to Low A and maybe not 17-year-olds either, but if an 18-year-old has potential it might be beneficial to move him.
Not by age

By abilities. When they are able to perform in rookie ball
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Old 04-02-2020, 03:56 PM   #13
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Deleting rookie leagues? That's crazy.
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Old 04-02-2020, 11:00 PM   #14
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Deleting rookie leagues? That's crazy.
that is exactly what I took away from his post too, lol
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Old 04-02-2020, 11:06 PM   #15
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Hello all,

Just wondering at roughly what age you promote players from the International complex in your league?

I have deleted all rookie leagues, so when I promote I have to send the players directly to Low A, which is usually overflowing with players from the previous 2 years' worth of draft picks, plus promoted players.

Typically, I promote them when they are 19, if they have enough potential since they get moved at 20 automatically anyway. However, I have some high-potential players that were 16, 17 but seemed to decline at 18 and 19. I'm wondering if I need to promote them sooner? I don't think I'd want to move 16-year-olds to Low A and maybe not 17-year-olds either, but if an 18-year-old has potential it might be beneficial to move him.
Many high potential players decline at 18 and 19, but it's not due to them being international.

If you care for a longer read, I did address your question in a guide that I wrote https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=305472. By no means take it as the gospel, they are just my opinions. Plenty of people have agreed, plenty disagree.
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Old 04-02-2020, 11:33 PM   #16
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Many high potential players decline at 18 and 19, but it's not due to them being international.

If you care for a longer read, I did address your question in a guide that I wrote https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=305472. By no means take it as the gospel, they are just my opinions. Plenty of people have agreed, plenty disagree.
Yeah I promote out of Complex at 18. Sometimes If they are beasts I'll take them out at immediately.

I would say be very careful about signing int amateurs with 0 to little defense. You basically have to wait for it to pop. And if it doesn't then they are a 1B or DH for life.

I don't think there is anything a human player can do to get their defense ratings to pop either. Not talking about positional but actually defense. If they don't get defense then they can't get positional.

If I end up with some of those guys I'll leave them in the complex hoping their defense pops in order to get them to play some kind of position. If it doesn't you just wasted your money.
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Old 04-02-2020, 11:36 PM   #17
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Yeah I promote out of Complex at 18. Sometimes If they are beasts I'll take them out at immediately.

I would say be very careful about signing int amateurs with 0 to little defense. You basically have to wait for it to pop. And if it doesn't then they are a 1B or DH for life.

I don't think there is anything a human player can do to get their defense ratings to pop either. Not talking about positional but actually defense. If they don't get defense then they can't get positional.

If I end up with some of those guys I'll leave them in the complex hoping their defense pops in order to get them to play some kind of position. If it doesn't you just wasted your money.
Yep, sometimes they are already good enough to play stateside
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Old 04-03-2020, 12:13 AM   #18
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Hello all,

Just wondering at roughly what age you promote players from the International complex in your league?

I have deleted all rookie leagues, so when I promote I have to send the players directly to Low A, which is usually overflowing with players from the previous 2 years' worth of draft picks, plus promoted players.

Typically, I promote them when they are 19, if they have enough potential since they get moved at 20 automatically anyway. However, I have some high-potential players that were 16, 17 but seemed to decline at 18 and 19. I'm wondering if I need to promote them sooner? I don't think I'd want to move 16-year-olds to Low A and maybe not 17-year-olds either, but if an 18-year-old has potential it might be beneficial to move him.
I have no idea...I'd have to ask my assistant GM...He puts in a lot more work than I do
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Old 04-03-2020, 12:46 AM   #19
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Remember they accumulate service time even in the intl complex I don't sweat it and I just wait for them to get auto promoted unless he has really good potential and I want to see some stats right away I don't think it does any harm if you leave them there think of it as a reserve roster
dont they only accumulate service time on the active roster?
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dont they only accumulate service time on the active roster?
I think he meant time as a pro. Meaning that they would become MiL FA after 6 years and also could be subjected to the rule 5 draft sooner
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