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03-22-2020, 07:50 PM | #1 |
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Bad stadium creator
Earl Weaver Baseball did it better, and that game is 33 years old.
Issues: 1. How come you can't bring in the RF line closer than 341 feet? 2. Is there a way to create a wall height change that isn't gradual? Like, straight vertical? 3. How come you just can't have all the stands in a minor league park be a cornfield? Oh, and playing a game at Camden Yards, an OF ran through the wall in LF and fielded a ball, vanishing from sight. Last edited by Jonah Falcon; 03-22-2020 at 07:53 PM. |
03-22-2020, 08:21 PM | #2 | |
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OK, hold the phone... Of course it isn't Earl Weaver. Eddie Dombrower was working with different code, which isn't as complex (although it was complex for the time and did some amazing things even by today's standards) and he had the FULL FORCE of Electronic Arts behind him, which was a power house even back then. This is a brand new feature. They're just getting started. It's a slow roll out. The fact that they're able to do it at the the level it's at is amazing. Over time, it will do things that are beyond Earl Weaver. Yes, it's glitchy. They've acknowledged it already, but they'll be making major improvements as we roll along. OOTP Developments is a small publisher/developer. They have limited resources and they have to do things gradually. Other software companies - such as Sony Interactive- can hire a huge staff of developers, throw millions of dollars at a project and say, "Have at it! Our motion capture studio is on the second floor, and after you're done be sure to stop by the CGI designers down the hall so they can pole vault over the uncanny valley and develop a CGI cyborg version of Aaron Judge for MLB the Show 21. Doesn't work that way for OOTP. They can't throw a million dollars at something and say, "Make it happen!" They get there. It just takes longer. BTW, my intent is NOT to flame... It's to put things in perspective Last edited by drksd4848; 03-22-2020 at 08:26 PM. |
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03-23-2020, 09:45 AM | #3 |
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Plus, and it's a big plus: The developers are here, listening to you and taking notes. You don't necessarily see that when dealing with the bigger boys.
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03-23-2020, 10:39 AM | #4 |
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It will improve. The developers already said this is only the beginning.
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03-23-2020, 10:45 AM | #5 |
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It blows my mind how someone can jump down these guys’ throats for a brand new feature four days after release, ESPECIALLY given how responsive they are. This will get better with time.
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03-23-2020, 12:43 PM | #6 |
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03-23-2020, 01:03 PM | #7 |
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Eh... look: I think OP just needs a little perspective.
I don't know how many versions deep he (or she.. ya never know) is into it, but people tend not to be trustful of software developers (thanks, Microsoft, Google, Facebook, etc), and either expect canned responses for complaints or to be ignored (again, thanks Google, Microsoft, Youtube). And, that's not how business is done here. They listen, they hear you, they care and they WANT to know what's wrong, because they want to it better. So, if something is broken, or it's not right, there no need to come at them with pitch forks and torches... just let them know. In fact, I think they'd appreciate it if you let them know. Feedback is important to them. Again, no one should flame the OP. Just gently educate. We're all friends here. It's taken me years of being involved to develop my perspective. But, once you hang around here long enough, you see it. BTW, one thing about Earl Weaver Baseball: It had it's share of problems... trust me on this. And when they finally fixed most of them, you had to buy another version. That's like having to buy every update from OOTP! YIKES! $$$$ Last edited by drksd4848; 03-23-2020 at 01:09 PM. |
03-23-2020, 01:48 PM | #8 |
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This dude has been whining about all kinds of stuff recently. So just take it with a grain of salt. Some people like to whine.
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03-23-2020, 02:04 PM | #9 | |
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03-24-2020, 11:27 PM | #10 | |
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You had Rodney McCray playing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-VMiaIUD8I |
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03-25-2020, 06:03 AM | #11 | |
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But it was 30 years ago. It was the best baseball sim that existed, and that was wonderful. I kept playing my fictional league on Earl II for eight calendar years until OOTP2 because nothing was better.
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03-25-2020, 12:04 PM | #12 | |
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Couple of things
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2. See item #1. 3. See item #1. As for the vanishing player, submit it in the cosmetic issues thread, or in the bug thread. Matt is meticulous about seeing to these things. This sort of ranting doesn't help, it abrades. It's not yet been a week and yoou're making comparisons to the dustbin of Earl Weaver? FMGWAC...
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03-25-2020, 12:14 PM | #13 | |
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03-26-2020, 07:50 AM | #14 | |
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I once saw a player bunt for a home run in High Heat.
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03-26-2020, 08:48 AM | #15 |
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03-26-2020, 09:02 AM | #16 | |
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I suppose they've committed to criticism as a tactic of sorts. With due respect to the OP, I would ignore the criticism that isn't constructive in any way. It's not very easy to get much done when everyone criticizes your work overlooking the positives. I have quite a bit of first-hand experience of this!
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03-26-2020, 09:29 AM | #17 | |
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2. Yes, add several new fence posts, that will make the line between two less gradual. 3. I just did this, no problem. "Element 1" for all sectors, done.
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03-26-2020, 09:35 AM | #18 |
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I see this thread title "Bad Stadium Creator" and ask myself: why would someone want to create a bad stadium? I mean, we're not the White Sox
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03-26-2020, 09:37 AM | #19 |
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Wow, two mic drop answers in a row
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