Do you really like the chess pawn look of 3d? - Page 3

Painmantle · 03-26-2016, 12:15 AM

I tried this today using 3D full screen on 3 display eyefinity 5922x1080 resolution and it was surprisingly cool. The field took up my whole center monitor.

battists · 03-26-2016, 07:46 AM

So, as much as it pains me to be a clueless n00b on here, how the heck do you enable the 3D stuff? I'm playing out my first game, and I see the ball animation, but nothing else.

Or is it automatically enabled, and I just have some graphics issue going on?

rworth88 · 03-26-2016, 08:18 AM

Only used 3d once, it's a cool addition, but it's every other aspect that makes the game great, I'll pop in the Show for my arcade fix, which I rarely get due to the limitless aspects of this masterpiece.

Good job devs..

BusterKing · 03-26-2016, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by battists

So, as much as it pains me to be a clueless n00b on here, how the heck do you enable the 3D stuff? I'm playing out my first game, and I see the ball animation, but nothing else.

Or is it automatically enabled, and I just have some graphics issue going on?

You need to change the display to 3D at top of the screen once you are in the PBP mode.

PhillieFever · 03-26-2016, 08:26 AM

I am admitted graphics snob who loves "The Show" and in the beginning I was completely 1000% against any kind of rudimentary 3D graphics for fear it would "cheapen the game," you know make it seem as if the game itself was like say Mogul, and not the Triple A title it actually is. But, once I gave it a try, I was pleasantly surprised by the fact that it actually added to the immersion, big time, and that alone makes all of the effort to implement 3D worth it. Bravo guys, thank you for sticking to your vision and not listening to the doubters like myself

battists · 03-26-2016, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BusterKing

You need to change the display to 3D at top of the screen once you are in the PBP mode.

Doh.

The Game · 03-26-2016, 10:17 AM

I've only played out a few games so far but they reminded me of this at 1st.

Greek · 03-26-2016, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by raginhood

I was expecting a little more I guess. It doesn't look like real players or anything. Just some minature pawns running around in a frenzy. I was at least expecting in today's time MicroLeague baseball icons and movements. Though Front Page Sports Baseball would have been the cat's meow for me and the statistics of this game.

I guess I'll sit back and keep waiting but for some reason I don't think Marcus is going in that direction.

Hate it, I just play in the 3D park.

Honorable_Pawn · 03-26-2016, 02:46 PM

Obviously, I think using pawns is a wonderful idea.

risp2out · 03-26-2016, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Game

I've only played out a few games so far but they reminded me of this at 1st.

Make sure you click "allow ghost players" in the minor leagues.

Lincster · 03-26-2016, 03:50 PM

I didn't think I would.....but what has drawn me in is...

1) It still lets you use your imagination.
2) The shadow of the ball is great and makes me feel like I heard a great crack of the bat...but rats its just a fly out.
3) Small stuff....defensive shift show up, so when your batter beats one by going the other way its great. Also the pawns aren't on rails...they move, tag up, take wide turns and so on.
4) Finally, the big one for me is to watch way more of my defense that I ever did before. It was hard for me to get immersed in my defensive play, but this really helps.

It will keep getting better, but I'd be fine with a couple of years of just improving pawn action.

RchW · 03-26-2016, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Honorable_Pawn

Obviously, I think using pawns is a wonderful idea.

You should get a promotion to RHP Right Honourable Pawn.

Bobble · 03-26-2016, 07:13 PM

One thing I DON'T like is how, if you have a different cap color than your jersey color and are using the custom colors, that the hat color smears down the pawn. I'd rather just have the top sphere be hat color and the lower body be jersey color. Anyone else?

cdcool · 03-26-2016, 07:17 PM

I don't. looks weird, would be better with Jersey's
I play in Webcast view

louisvillec271 · 03-27-2016, 06:34 AM

There's no good reason as to why a baseball simulation has any need for a visual representation of what's taking place on field. Anyone who has listened to a baseball game on the radio has had to envision what's taking place on the field. Listen to enough games, and envisioning what's taking place isn't difficult.

With that being said, if OOTP is going to go the route of incorporating a visual representation of on field action into the game, it should be done to a modern day standard. These "chess pawns" aren't a modern day standard. Sorry to everyone who likes them but let's call it like it is. These things are cheesy. I'd have been happy with having 3D ball flight in the webcast mode. For the second consecutive version of the feature, I will not play out one single full game in 3D mode.

VARoadstter · 03-27-2016, 09:34 AM

The pawns are adequate but I do hope they become tiny ball players at some point. I also liked the suggestion of having just a circle with the uniform number.

My biggest quibble is the ball flight after the player decides whether or not to send the runner. The ball flying back to the batter from the outfield is weird.

BusterKing · 03-27-2016, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by louisvillec271

There's no good reason as to why a baseball simulation has any need for a visual representation of what's taking place on field. Anyone who has listened to a baseball game on the radio has had to envision what's taking place on the field. Listen to enough games, and envisioning what's taking place isn't difficult.

With that being said, if OOTP is going to go the route of incorporating a visual representation of on field action into the game, it should be done to a modern day standard. These "chess pawns" aren't a modern day standard. Sorry to everyone who likes them but let's call it like it is. These things are cheesy. I'd have been happy with having 3D ball flight in the webcast mode. For the second consecutive version of the feature, I will not play out one single full game in 3D mode.

This is a text sim, "modern day standard" wouldn't apply graphic wise for this game and I'm comfortable with that since text/stats no other game comes close to OOTP. In my opinion some customers are very happy with this first animated 3D player version while at the same time it is providing us with new features in all other aspects. And don't forget, different strokes for different folks, the more people you please the more sales you will get.

Sweed · 03-27-2016, 10:27 AM

I was more expecting a 2d circle, ala FM's first on field engine than an actual 3d player. So yes, for the first effort of 3d players on the field these are just fine and went well past my expectations.

I think it's quite obvious these are placeholders for future 3d player models and will be improved on year to year. Too those that think they are "cheesy" or take away some OOTP's swagger because they aren't today's standard I guess there were two possible choices..

Don't release the 3d model until more realistic player models can be included.

Release 3d, as they have, for v17 and let us enjoy being a part of seeing this feature grow. Why would they hold it back when it is really impressive for a first go at trying 3d with movement?

Honorable_Pawn · 03-27-2016, 10:36 AM

I like the new 3-D thing but I won't use it. I echo the sentiments of many others here that I much prefer the text pbp. Hopefully, text pbp will get some love in future versions.

Pineywoods OOTPer · 03-27-2016, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Honorable_Pawn

I like the new 3-D thing but I won't use it. I echo the sentiments of many others here that I much prefer the text pbp. Hopefully, text pbp will get some love in future versions.

I like a little of both, so my question begs is what do you want to see improve on the text pbp?

03-26-2016, 12:15 AM	#41
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03-26-2016, 07:46 AM	#42
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506 Blog Entries: 7	So, as much as it pains me to be a clueless n00b on here, how the heck do you enable the 3D stuff? I'm playing out my first game, and I see the ball animation, but nothing else. Or is it automatically enabled, and I just have some graphics issue going on? __________________ Come check out my dynasty report, Funky Times!

03-26-2016, 08:26 AM	#45
PhillieFever Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Elk Twp. NJ Posts: 6,763	I am admitted graphics snob who loves "The Show" and in the beginning I was completely 1000% against any kind of rudimentary 3D graphics for fear it would "cheapen the game," you know make it seem as if the game itself was like say Mogul, and not the Triple A title it actually is. But, once I gave it a try, I was pleasantly surprised by the fact that it actually added to the immersion, big time, and that alone makes all of the effort to implement 3D worth it. Bravo guys, thank you for sticking to your vision and not listening to the doubters like myself __________________ We're All Wednesday Aren't We? WAWAW

03-26-2016, 10:17 AM	#47
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03-26-2016, 02:46 PM	#49
Honorable_Pawn Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 6,407	Obviously, I think using pawns is a wonderful idea. __________________ PBA Quickstart for OOTP Background Images Collection All PBA games broadcast live on Steam.

03-26-2016, 08:18 AM	#43
rworth88 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 167	Only used 3d once, it's a cool addition, but it's every other aspect that makes the game great, I'll pop in the Show for my arcade fix, which I rarely get due to the limitless aspects of this masterpiece. Good job devs..

03-26-2016, 03:50 PM	#51
Lincster Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 2	I didn't think I would.....but what has drawn me in is... 1) It still lets you use your imagination. 2) The shadow of the ball is great and makes me feel like I heard a great crack of the bat...but rats its just a fly out. 3) Small stuff....defensive shift show up, so when your batter beats one by going the other way its great. Also the pawns aren't on rails...they move, tag up, take wide turns and so on. 4) Finally, the big one for me is to watch way more of my defense that I ever did before. It was hard for me to get immersed in my defensive play, but this really helps. It will keep getting better, but I'd be fine with a couple of years of just improving pawn action.

03-26-2016, 07:13 PM	#53
Bobble Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: High and outside Posts: 3,814	One thing I DON'T like is how, if you have a different cap color than your jersey color and are using the custom colors, that the hat color smears down the pawn. I'd rather just have the top sphere be hat color and the lower body be jersey color. Anyone else? __________________

03-26-2016, 07:17 PM	#54
cdcool Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chicago/New York City Posts: 54	I don't. looks weird, would be better with Jersey's I play in Webcast view

03-27-2016, 06:34 AM	#55
louisvillec271 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 220	There's no good reason as to why a baseball simulation has any need for a visual representation of what's taking place on field. Anyone who has listened to a baseball game on the radio has had to envision what's taking place on the field. Listen to enough games, and envisioning what's taking place isn't difficult. With that being said, if OOTP is going to go the route of incorporating a visual representation of on field action into the game, it should be done to a modern day standard. These "chess pawns" aren't a modern day standard. Sorry to everyone who likes them but let's call it like it is. These things are cheesy. I'd have been happy with having 3D ball flight in the webcast mode. For the second consecutive version of the feature, I will not play out one single full game in 3D mode.

03-27-2016, 09:34 AM	#56
VARoadstter Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 211	The pawns are adequate but I do hope they become tiny ball players at some point. I also liked the suggestion of having just a circle with the uniform number. My biggest quibble is the ball flight after the player decides whether or not to send the runner. The ball flying back to the batter from the outfield is weird.

03-27-2016, 10:27 AM	#58
Sweed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 6,103 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	I was more expecting a 2d circle, ala FM's first on field engine than an actual 3d player. So yes, for the first effort of 3d players on the field these are just fine and went well past my expectations. I think it's quite obvious these are placeholders for future 3d player models and will be improved on year to year. Too those that think they are "cheesy" or take away some OOTP's swagger because they aren't today's standard I guess there were two possible choices.. Don't release the 3d model until more realistic player models can be included. Release 3d, as they have, for v17 and let us enjoy being a part of seeing this feature grow. Why would they hold it back when it is really impressive for a first go at trying 3d with movement?

03-27-2016, 10:36 AM	#59
Honorable_Pawn Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 6,407	I like the new 3-D thing but I won't use it. I echo the sentiments of many others here that I much prefer the text pbp. Hopefully, text pbp will get some love in future versions. __________________ PBA Quickstart for OOTP Background Images Collection All PBA games broadcast live on Steam.