Velocity Spring Training Bug

Woodchuck · 08-24-2003, 03:16 AM

I think I may have found a velocity gain/loss bug related to spring training. In one of my leagues Billy Wagner, Arthur Rhodes and Victor Zambrano all entered the offseason with 10 velocity. Then after spring training, the html report shows a velocity loss for each player:

http://www.ultimatebaseball.net/OOTP5UBNLE/tdev28.html

However, BOSI shows a velocity gain to 11 for each player for ST, which also appears on each player's individual html page:

http://www.ultimatebaseball.net/OOTP5UBNLE/p1036.html

http://www.ultimatebaseball.net/OOTP5UBNLE/p832.html

http://www.ultimatebaseball.net/OOTP5UBNLE/p678.html

Basically, the engine appears to be adding velocity instead of subtracting it after the loss in ST. Has anyone seen something similar? And does a velocity loss in ST (or otherwise) shows up as an actual number dip?

clarnzz · 08-24-2003, 01:34 PM

If I was going to throw a dart at it and guess I would say in reduced ratings that velocity also applies to the pitchers strikeout rating, so while their velocity dropped, their strikeout rating increased causing the velocity to go up.

Guess 2 would be that it's a coaches/scout issue but am not real familiar with how coaches/scouts and BOSI interact.

Just a couple ideas, other than that there's also the possibility of bug.

thickman1 · 08-24-2003, 04:09 PM

After speaking with the BOSI administrator apparently BOSI looks at TRUE ratings. Apparently the three players in question This still doesn't explain why the reports shows a loss while the file shows a gain. I'm very interested in hearing from the OOTP5 bigwigs on this one...

Gastric ReFlux · 08-25-2003, 01:13 PM

Possible bug? Possible scouts being wrong?

mrbill · 08-26-2003, 02:13 AM

I just use the traditional ratings, but I ran a ST on my team with everyone's velocity points at 0 (putting the extra 5 in stuff).

Everyone's velocity rating stayed the same, and people improved in AR and AH from the extra points in stuff, even though the development report said almost everyone lost velocity.

I ran it again just taking away between 1-4 velocity points on everyone, and a few guys went up in velocity, but again no one went down.

Just my experiences, we'll see if that helps people figure out whats up.

08-24-2003, 03:16 AM	#1
Woodchuck Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 39	Velocity Spring Training Bug I think I may have found a velocity gain/loss bug related to spring training. In one of my leagues Billy Wagner, Arthur Rhodes and Victor Zambrano all entered the offseason with 10 velocity. Then after spring training, the html report shows a velocity loss for each player: http://www.ultimatebaseball.net/OOTP5UBNLE/tdev28.html However, BOSI shows a velocity gain to 11 for each player for ST, which also appears on each player's individual html page: http://www.ultimatebaseball.net/OOTP5UBNLE/p1036.html http://www.ultimatebaseball.net/OOTP5UBNLE/p832.html http://www.ultimatebaseball.net/OOTP5UBNLE/p678.html Basically, the engine appears to be adding velocity instead of subtracting it after the loss in ST. Has anyone seen something similar? And does a velocity loss in ST (or otherwise) shows up as an actual number dip?

08-24-2003, 01:34 PM	#2
clarnzz All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Following everyone off a cliff. Posts: 1,522	If I was going to throw a dart at it and guess I would say in reduced ratings that velocity also applies to the pitchers strikeout rating, so while their velocity dropped, their strikeout rating increased causing the velocity to go up. Guess 2 would be that it's a coaches/scout issue but am not real familiar with how coaches/scouts and BOSI interact. Just a couple ideas, other than that there's also the possibility of bug.

08-24-2003, 04:09 PM	#3
thickman1 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 147	After speaking with the BOSI administrator apparently BOSI looks at TRUE ratings. Apparently the three players in question This still doesn't explain why the reports shows a loss while the file shows a gain. I'm very interested in hearing from the OOTP5 bigwigs on this one...

08-25-2003, 01:13 PM	#4
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	Possible bug? Possible scouts being wrong?

08-26-2003, 02:13 AM	#5
mrbill All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: LA, CA Posts: 982	I just use the traditional ratings, but I ran a ST on my team with everyone's velocity points at 0 (putting the extra 5 in stuff). Everyone's velocity rating stayed the same, and people improved in AR and AH from the extra points in stuff, even though the development report said almost everyone lost velocity. I ran it again just taking away between 1-4 velocity points on everyone, and a few guys went up in velocity, but again no one went down. Just my experiences, we'll see if that helps people figure out whats up.