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Old 12-09-2019, 05:49 AM   #801
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To all the Patriots fans........That bad call didn't cost them the game. They had plenty of other chances during the game to win it.
They were out matched and I think it was clear to see. But I do think they put up a good fight.

As far as refs causing wins and losses, I'm kind of on the fence with that. I think people on both sides of this argument are right to some extent.

The players play the game, not the refs. People are more willing to accept a loss due to being outplayed by the opponent than a bad call by the referee. Why should a team have to play both the refs and their opponent? A referees bad calls at the end of a closely contested game can very much be the difference in winning and losing. Or at the very least make it more difficult for one team than the other.
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Old 12-09-2019, 10:15 AM   #802
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The sooner hurney is out the better. He will set the franchise back another year if they let him do the draft
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The biggest prob I have with that article is calling the Panthers' D "young and promising". In what alternate universe is that description true?
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I don`t hate the Pats, but I hope they won`t win a SB for the next 20 years
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On to Cincinnati? You're not playing Cleveland! You're playing CINCINNATI!!
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Looking at 2 NFC East teams play is like watching the Carolina Panthers vs the Carolina Panthers.
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Maybe the Patriots thought Cinci wouldn't say anything out of embarrassment? In case anyone doesn't get the reference......

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I know I will be in the minority in this. But if it is found that the Pats "independent" film crew had significant video of the Cincy sideline staff, I wouldn't put Belicheat in the HOF. I'm sorry. I don't see this as any different than A-Rod or Barry Bonds juicing. Doesn't matter. Belicheat maybe a HOF coach w/o the shenanigans. But cheating the game & his fellow members of the NFL who don't cheat (or at the very least, are smarter in knowing how to hide their cameras). He knows the rules, got punished, then thumbed his nose at the NFL. This is like the Orleans Bounty gate. If there were more than just glimpses of the Bengals coaches on those videos, he should be suspended for a year minimum.
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Way to use a snippet from a 14 year old article that the writer had to officially apologize for when Walsh admitted that he lied about his story.
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I know I will be in the minority in this. But if it is found that the Pats "independent" film crew had significant video of the Cincy sideline staff, I wouldn't put Belicheat in the HOF. I'm sorry. I don't see this as any different than A-Rod or Barry Bonds juicing. Doesn't matter. Belicheat maybe a HOF coach w/o the shenanigans. But cheating the game & his fellow members of the NFL who don't cheat (or at the very least, are smarter in knowing how to hide their cameras). He knows the rules, got punished, then thumbed his nose at the NFL. This is like the Orleans Bounty gate. If there were more than just glimpses of the Bengals coaches on those videos, he should be suspended for a year minimum.
I totally agree, and, for the record, I have nothing against the Patriots and Belichek

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I don't even think the Bengals coaching staff watch their own game film.
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Because no one ever has enough. Billionaires will cheat their taxes for a thousand bucks. Eventually when you are working underhanded for so long it's just second nature and very casual because you don't even remember that you are doing anything wrong.

They expect us to believe that a contractor who was hired to video a scout in the press box instead decided to film the sideline for an entire quarter? And that when confronted by security, this professional videographer just offered to delete all of the footage to make it go away? Who does that?
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I know I will be in the minority in this. But if it is found that the Pats "independent" film crew had significant video of the Cincy sideline staff, I wouldn't put Belicheat in the HOF. I'm sorry. I don't see this as any different than A-Rod or Barry Bonds juicing. Doesn't matter. Belicheat maybe a HOF coach w/o the shenanigans. But cheating the game & his fellow members of the NFL who don't cheat (or at the very least, are smarter in knowing how to hide their cameras). He knows the rules, got punished, then thumbed his nose at the NFL. This is like the Orleans Bounty gate. If there were more than just glimpses of the Bengals coaches on those videos, he should be suspended for a year minimum.
I agree with you. I just have one question, do you believe Rose should be HOF?
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I agree with you. I just have one question, do you believe Rose should be HOF?
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