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Re: the other thing I said shouldn't work (trading up from the trash base) It is because it's not possible for a game to have the AI make a trade decision based on every factor within so many players. You can't accurately decide if one player is worth 20 or not (I don't know if the 5 player thing is an actual baseball ruling or whether it's just there in an attempt to balance gameplay/deal with the calculation issue - perhaps someone could enlighten me?). So it's effectively a lame loophole for the 5 player trade rule. Last edited by MrMuse; 11-11-2013 at 02:13 PM. |
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First of all, "Tampax Bay Rays"? I'm chuckling at that one. Is that original or did you get that somewhere? Second, that seems to be a bit of a thin draft class if you're already down to "2 pot" in the first 10 picks or so. Maybe I'm reading it wrong. However, it seems to me, based on empirical evidence only, that sometimes the game needs a season or three to adjust the distribution of draftee talent so that you realistically have better picks at least in the first round. Third, that said, I can tell you that after the second round or so you really don't see much to get excited about in terms of multi-star potential. BUT, you should not necessarily go on auto-pilot for the rest of the draft. There are gems out there in the later rounds (not too much later), diamonds in the rough, and you can spot them once in a while given a bit of an experienced eye. Fourth, I totally agree with you about scouting recommendations. I take those with a BIG grain of salt. For one thing, your scout tends to overlook personality traits which are detrimental to player development, like low intelligence and work ethic. Fifth, a recommendation. Look for players in later draft rounds with high marks in those traits, intelligence and work ethic. They are most likely to get talent bumps and fulfill promises. As far as ratings go, look to OSA for a second opinion. Give consideration to drafting guys with the right personality (leadership is another useful one, although not directly tied to his own performance) and with, let's say, yellow potential ratings (the greens and blues are all gone by that time, of course). Those are the guys who might surprise you in a few years. Sixth, I think you are referring to Slot Bonuses in conjunction with an amateur draft. Basically, a draftee whose demand is "Slot" is asking for nothing special in terms of a signing bonus; he is only asking for a bonus that would be considered normal for his expected pick position in the draft. "A slot bonus is a predetermined bonus amount, a rough estimate of what kind of bonus a player should accept when drafted in a certain position in the draft. The Slot Bonus is based on the Slot Bonus Baseline, which is set in the Amateur Draft Rules section of the Rules page, or directly on the Draft Rules page." Read more about this here: Out of the Park Baseball Manual Seventh, from Wikipedia: "In certain sports, a magic number is a number used to indicate how close a front-running team is to clinching a division title and/or a playoff spot. It represents the total of additional wins by the front-running team or additional losses (or any combination thereof) by the rival team after which it is mathematically impossible for the rival team to capture the title in the remaining games. This assumes that each game results in a win or a loss, but not a tie. Teams other than the front-running team have what is called an elimination number (or 'tragic number')." Eighth, if you haven't gotten into the online manual yet, you should. For example, here is an excellent reference on the statistics included in the game: Out of the Park Baseball Manual Ninth, you did what you needed to do dealing with LTL. I just mentioned the Ignore List as an alternative if you ever get tired of dealing with somebody. Tenth, many people get into it with The Wolf. However, he is NOT on my Ignore List and probably will never be on it because he's got a good mind and he has contributed much to this game and these forums. He and I get along good because I don't take him too seriously when he gets on my case. He has strong opinions, which is fine, but his faults are in trying to convince by overwhelming any dissension and being easily baited and drawn into silly altercations. Don't you be like that, if you please.
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Oh, I wouldn't say The Wolf and I argue as such..I appreciate a good debate. He is obstinate...but so am I. I'm also highly opinionated - but if I have no opinions what would be the point me posting to a forum in the first place?
Tampax was all me...but it's not so much of a stretch to add one letter..hardly a display of genius. I'm not sure why but I seem to see them as my main rival in this game even though I'm 2nd to Toronto at the moment with a 2.5 spread. I got ONE useable player out of the draft. The 5th pick (in actuality the 2nd) was a no-sign (as I expected). And the rest are handing out orange slices in the rookies. There were still a few 4.5 star pot players left when I took the 2 star. I just preferred his ACTUAL stats and the descriptive scout report for him than the others. I also noticed that the star rating in-general fluctuates wildly for rookies dependent on their past play year by year...which hardly seems relevant in most cases. Last edited by MrMuse; 11-12-2013 at 12:28 AM. |
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Heh, then you make a good pair.
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Oh and I dipped into the manual a little. Whilst it might shed some light on specific issues now and then it's hardly a good read. I'll just use it for ref. if I get seriously stuck with anything.
p.s. that magic number thing? Still pretty useless from a gameplay perspective. You don't need a badge to tell you when you are doing well and another to tell you you suck ass. It is more than likely the basis of calculation for your owner feedback anyway (mine fluctuates between "not happy" "angry" and "mad" - seems he is a whiney bitch that expects you to be top from start to finish). Pineda came off the DL so I shopped Colby Lewis for a 4.5 star RF - which is basically what I'd lost in the crash. Why Lewis and not Pineda? His recent use made him more appealing to would-be traders, HIS injury history description was fragile where Pineda's was not, Their 'tools' stats and overall ratings were comparatively equal, Pineda is younger. Last edited by MrMuse; 11-12-2013 at 12:56 AM. |
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I understood the explaination of what the magic number is. I'm just saying it seems superfluous. You need to win as many games as you can, your divisional standing and win/loss scores are plain to see, knowing exactly how bad or how good you are doing "in the long run" isn't really helpful. In the course of one bad month I've gone from being 2nd and looking okay but not great to being on the verge of "tragic number" territory (it's late season). Last edited by MrMuse; 11-12-2013 at 02:44 AM. |
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Sabathia made (in game) 2013 All Stars by the way. As did Zobrist. Verlander missed his first spot in 5 years..apparently. That's what happens when you spend your youth as Amish - he has to be of Dutch decent with a name like that right?
And its top of the ninth...Tampax are leading 3-2...2 out, 2 on base, and its 2/2 the offering...Butler swings, the hit, hard and long...and it's going up..up...it's out of here...Butler brings home 3 for the Yankees and the crowd are going CRAZY. (and some mad Welsh dude is laughing insanely to himself in an empty room) Last edited by MrMuse; 11-12-2013 at 05:38 AM. |
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It's All-Change in the AL East...I've gone from being a distant 2nd with 3.5 GB to bottom of the Division with 6 GB and all the way back to 2nd and .5 GB. One would think my miserable twat of an owner might smile after a 12 win streak putting us back into contention. But NO he's "upset". I've come to the conclusion he is in serious need of Prozac in general and Lithium when the Yankees are in a slump. Yep - someone needs to go buy this guy a few hookers asap.
Today's joy bonus: Tampa are bottom Now to catch those pesky Red Sox (that came from NOWHERE to be a strong lead). Bad News of the Day: "Robinson Cano exploded for a barrage of base hits today at Yankee Stadium. The Detroit second baseman had a field day in the 15-5 triumph over The New York Yankees, finishing with a 6-6 day and a spot in the league record book....Cano has collected 130 hits for the Tigers this year, 21 of them home runs....he has also netted 84 RBIs and scored 70 runs while batting .337" Coming to a t.v. screen near you: the new series When Good Trades Go Bad. Last edited by MrMuse; 11-12-2013 at 08:41 AM. |
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I am ranked 3rd of 30 in the latest power rankings...I am leading the division with the Red Sox 2nd 4 GB, I have a magic number creeping down to 20..it shrinks with every game I play. I'm having regular streaks..I decide to go and see how my owner is feeling about our wondrous recent success. He is "unhappy" I decide that there is no fixing him and pull the plug on the old duffer's respirator. Meanwhile I am being bombarded by News items telling me how all my minor league teams are getting regularly slaughtered.
The Yankees win another 5 games in a row...they are on fire and we are 1st in the power rankings. I rush to tell my dying owner the good news...he looks "worried". So he should be, his bed has pillows large enough for me to smother him without getting caught. Last edited by MrMuse; 11-12-2013 at 10:09 AM. |
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When you have a minute, google "Jeff Bagwell". You want to talk about "good" trades going bad...haha
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Anyway...I'll make the playoffs with ease now...Sox tanked...and looks like Cardinals will be main danger. I have a magic magic number....it is '1' and no one else has qualified (though Cardinals are on 2) After being in situations where I was more than 10 games down..I'm pretty surprised to qualify 1st with 92 61 .601 - now to get my rookies some game time. Last edited by MrMuse; 11-12-2013 at 12:02 PM. |
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Pfft...well that was bs. Chicago...who hardly won a game against me all season...put me out 2-0 after the bye.
Cards went out the same round and Dodgers (wild card) won the series...As if! RNG 1 Brain 0 Last edited by MrMuse; 11-12-2013 at 01:23 PM. |
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I have often thought over the years whether this means anything. Is it something to be concerned about, I wonder? Does it mean either my prospects stink, or they will not develop as well because they are playing on losing teams? I don't know, but one thing I am fairly sure of: If you are playing with ghost players, I don't think minor league team record means much at all and is basically random and neutral in effect. That's how I play, so I don't worry about it.
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It was a bit of a clue that something was up with him that he showed regularly on the "make this trade work" with other teams trading for 4.5 star players when he was just a 1/1 (and they were good players that I chose..not old or overpriced). Ironically, Verlander has done the reverse..he lost a full star for no reason despite being played often and not injured. And Sabathia has gone from being 4.5 to 3 but still plays exactly the same way...go figure. Maybe I should sack my scout..I think there is a good chance he's been on the whiskey too much. Last edited by MrMuse; 11-12-2013 at 03:43 PM. |
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The point is...there's even trades, where everyone wins and there's uneven trades, where one team comes out way ahead. Bagwell is an example of the latter; early to tell, but the Cano trade would fall under the former. |
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I was looking for something else and I came across this thread, which I enjoyed. Alas, our Welshman, Mr. Muse, has moved on after losing interest as he predicted. Here's a pint to him and to hoping that he returns someday!
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They always return.
Yes...Crusader Kings II with all (All...that is) DLC was fun for awhile. Skyrim was fun for awhile, but... They always come back.
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