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Eugene Church · 01-10-2020, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

Baseball teams that have evidently used more than three major colors, if memory serves:

Boston Braves 1929-1935, because they had a chief's head in the middle of their team name, or as part of their main logo or logos.

Miami Marlins 2012-2016 or 2018, when they had the orange as part of their logo or color schemes for their uniforms and caps, if not also their wordmarks.

There may be other teams, but not many, with more than three colors on their uniforms, throughout baseball history, but there are many teams with yet-unfound looks, no doubt.

I do see your point, however, I think, in regards to colors. I guess it basically boils down to people's personal tastes and all, then, generally speaking, in regards to designs and all. You prefer simplicity, evidently, while I suppose I prefer more detailed looks, whenever possible, and all, most times.

Nothing wrong with how you see things, of course. I can accept you have different preferences and all for looks without taking offense. I mean, this world would be pretty boring and all, wouldn't you say, if people always liked the same things, et cetera, that others did?

After all, God made each of us different for reasons we may not fully understand just yet in this life, if we ever will. And He certainly didn't make any of us robots of a sort, at all, as well, for sure. Thank you for your input, and I'll try to keep it in mind in the future, of course. There is much merit in what you say, and much logic too.

May God help us both learn to do His will better in our lives in any possible way or ways that He may want us to, Eugene. No matter what that will requires of us, and no matter whose lives we may touch or have already touched in each of our lives. I wish you only the best possible, according to His will, in your life. Talk to you soon, I hope.

With my most sincere friendly wishes, I hope you have a good night, then, Eugene. CD out.

CD, you are missing my point.
If you want 4, 5 and 6 colors on your logos, jerseys and caps, then you probably will not get them done on the OOTP Graphics Forum... none of the graphics designers there use that many colors.
Nobody uses 4, 5 and 6 colors... you are the only one that does it.

Therefore, YOU will have to do your logos, jerseys and caps YOURSELF.

Clovidequano Dovatha · 01-11-2020, 10:27 AM

Found some cool looks here:

https://www.pinterest.com/spellbrand...e-logo-design/

I like the ones like the Sherlock Holmes one, the Union Fire one, and the E.L. Brand Temple of Photography one, for instance, from that site. There are other good ones, of course, but maybe some items like any of the items there would work for a number of teams, in terms of their looks, given the time period many of my games are in currently. There are sites those other items link to, no doubt, but I haven't clicked on them yet.

If I could do gradients, that would be cool, don't you think? But I'm not sure I have the necessary software to be able to do that, unfortunately, at the present time, nor the knowledge of how to create and use them myself directly without help of some kind. Either vertically or horizontally, at that.

I'll try to keep the number of colors down on items, whether requested or not, for sure, and I do try, to be honest. It's hard for me to do, however, at times.

You said my Worcester Ruby Legs items were the best I've ever done here. But now you just said my Maholin Rustlers are the best that I've done so far. Which is it?

I'm trying real hard not to upset people, and all, for I really don't want a repeat of prior problems if I can possibly avoid that sort of thing in the future. Yes, I am picky, as you have said, and I may have gotten very close to being banned, but I'm trying to do better around here, for sure.

I think a number of Low's recent sets, for example, will work for a number of teams in various fictional nations of mine, although I won't necessarily be able to use the ones with a certain location mentioned on them. Same thing with a number of other items from other designers here. Even though they may not quite fit certain time periods well, I will probably use them for certain teams, whether extant or not at the present time, in any of my leagues/saved games, et cetera.

Thank you for your time and attention and advice, Eugene. It is much appreciated by this periodically stubborn middle-aged man with various personal issues in his life that he's asked God for help with quite often, for sure. Have a good day, I hope. We'll talk more later, I'm sure, Lord willing. CD out.

Clovidequano Dovatha · 01-11-2020, 10:38 AM

Please feel free to mention the above link in the Anashe-related thread, if you like, and mention which items I said I liked at least a little, at the very least. I'm going to remain quiet in that thread for a while, until and unless they ask for further clarification or until I decide enough work has now been done for that team, at least. Thanks. CD out.

Eugene Church · 01-11-2020, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

Found some cool looks here:

https://www.pinterest.com/spellbrand...e-logo-design/

I'll try to keep the number of colors down on items, whether requested or not, for sure, and I do try, to be honest. It's hard for me to do, however, at times.

You said my Worcester Ruby Legs items were the best I've ever done here. But now you just said my Maholin Rustlers are the best that I've done so far. Which is it?

I think a number of Low's recent sets, for example, will work for a number of teams in various fictional nations of mine, although I won't necessarily be able to use the ones with a certain location mentioned on them. Same thing with a number of other items from other designers here. Even though they may not quite fit certain time periods well, I will probably use them for certain teams, whether extant or not at the present time, in any of my leagues/saved games, et cetera.

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CD, my opinions are not absolute... I can't remember all of my posts... the Red Legs are just about the best thing you have done because it fits the 1900s time period... the Rustlers jersey and caps are some of your better work because the colors coordinate fairly well... but you used too many colors on them... three colors would be best for most people.

I understand that your tastes are not what most people want... you have weird tastes compared to most people.

You should use low's work for nicknames and home team caps and jerseys... that way you could use his work for your home teams... but you would have to create your own away jerseys where the town name would be different from his.

Why don't you start creating your own logos, jerseys and caps?
Use other people's logos, jerseys and caps where you can.
The more you create your own graphics, the more skilled you will get using the software.

You seem to be a lot better than me using graphics software and I can make decent logos, jerseys and caps for my leagues... they are not as good as knuckler, low and txranger, but they are fairly good.

I also use what low, Lawn Loaf, knuckler and txranger have already done for other people in their sticky threads.

I would rank my graphics in my dynasty leagues much better than most dynasties... but my graphics are not the best when compared to the really good dynasties... on a 10 scale, my graphics are about 7 or 8.
I'm very happy with them... but they could be done better if I could get someone to do them exactly like I would like them.... but this is not possible in the real world... only in my dream world.

Eugene Church · 01-11-2020, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

Please feel free to mention the above link in the Anashe-related thread, if you like, and mention which items I said I liked at least a little, at the very least. I'm going to remain quiet in that thread for a while, until and unless they ask for further clarification or until I decide enough work has now been done for that team, at least. Thanks. CD out.

No, I wouldn't put that link in the Anashe Jazz thread... that is far too much information to put in a thread.

Keep your requests simple... and maybe someone will help you.
Grumpy might have helped you on the Jazz, but he couldn't figure out what you wanted... your instructions confused him... that is why you need to keep your requests simple.

It looks like no one else is going to help you on the Anashe Jazz.
The only thing you are going to get is what I did for you and you didn't like my work.

Eugene Church · 01-11-2020, 11:09 AM

Find two pre-1920 style logos that you like and post them here in this thread as examples of what you like
.
Find one set of pre-1920 style jerseys and caps that you like and post it as an example of what you like.

But post them here first for me to revise before you post them in the Anashe thread.
You must keep your instructions simple and uncomplicated.

Clovidequano Dovatha · 01-11-2020, 11:11 AM

I didn't say I didn't like your work. It's good, but don't know how well it might fit the necessary era or eras yet. CD out.

Clovidequano Dovatha · 01-11-2020, 11:20 AM

Unusual or unique might be a better way to put things than weird, I think, at times, Eugene. And I have begun making caps and uniforms, at least, as you know. But logos, I've not yet been able to do, for some yet-unknown reason or reasons, it seems.

I have ideas for them at times, but haven't been able to create them myself, just yet, somehow. No matter how hard I try to, I still haven't. Whether I'll ever be able to well enough, that still remains to be seen, of course. CD out.

Clovidequano Dovatha · 01-11-2020, 11:28 AM

I'd like to know which fonts others might be using on their items periodically, but dare not ask at this time, at least. That's for obvious reasons, you know. Maybe if and when others are more favorably-thinking of me, it might be okay, but that time has not yet occurred, for sure. CD out.

Eugene Church · 01-11-2020, 11:35 AM

CD, I'm sure you know that teams did not have logos in the 1870s, 80s, 90s... just one or two teams.

Is this the type of logo you want for 1910 style logos?

I think even I can create simple logos like this.

Eugene Church · 01-11-2020, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

Unusual or unique might be a better way to put things than weird, I think, at times, Eugene. And I have begun making caps and uniforms, at least, as you know. But logos, I've not yet been able to do, for some yet-unknown reason or reasons, it seems.

I have ideas for them at times, but haven't been able to create them myself, just yet, somehow. No matter how hard I try to, I still haven't. Whether I'll ever be able to well enough, that still remains to be seen, of course. CD out.

OK, if it makes you feel better... your taste in graphics is unusual.

Eugene Church · 01-11-2020, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

I'd like to know which fonts others might be using on their items periodically, but dare not ask at this time, at least. That's for obvious reasons, you know. Maybe if and when others are more favorably-thinking of me, it might be okay, but that time has not yet occurred, for sure. CD out.

Don't ask txranger… don't think he would be happy to see your name on the Retro Thread or any other thread he posts on.

However, you might ask others like low, Lawn Loaf, rocknfire 7 and others that post their work on the Graphics Forum.

BUT PLEASE KEEP IT SIMPLE... just say you like the font they used and would like to know its name.... nothing else.

No one should be offended by a simple comment and request like that.

Clovidequano Dovatha · 01-11-2020, 11:52 AM

Some known historical teams may have had logos pre-1901, but not sure how many. Those kinds of looks might work to a degree, post-1900, at least, but not sure yet for certain teams. I'm better at describing things than making them, often, I think.

Some real-world locations might not have had teams back then, of course. Many of my requests, though, have been or are for teams in fictional cities, leagues, or nations. Which may make things more complicated at times, I'm sure.

Nations like Ruifrapso Sokumi, for instance. Since a lot probably hasn't been revealed about it at present, that makes certain things a bit more difficult, at times, no doubt. It is associated with Slaabovia to a degree, however, so many of the same influences present for Slaabovia likely will touch or have already touched the styles used by many people from there, in any time period.

I'll think some more, and get back to you soon. Thank you for your patience and understanding and all, Eugene. CD out.

Eugene Church · 01-11-2020, 12:37 PM

I would like to see something you like.

Post two teams logos that you like pre-1910.

Post one set of pre-1910 jerseys and caps for one team that you like.

I just want to get some idea of what you would like as far as pre-1910 logos and jerseys and caps.

Eugene Church · 01-11-2020, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

Some known historical teams may have had logos pre-1901, but not sure how many.

My quick research shows very few teams had logos prior to 1900.
Teams just didn't use them at that time.

You are asking for something that didn't exist.

Just make up logos that you like to fit that time period.

Simple solution to your graphics needs.

Clovidequano Dovatha · 01-11-2020, 12:57 PM

Ok, when I get back to my desktop or laptop, I'll see what I can find. But not working on them at the moment. CD out.

Clovidequano Dovatha · 01-11-2020, 06:09 PM

No, actually, I didn't know that many teams didn't actually have logos as we'd typically now think of them, prior to 1901, at least. Thank you for the information. Eugene, would advertising looks from the appropriate time periods help, for instance, perhaps? I'm just wondering, that's all. CD out.

Clovidequano Dovatha · 01-11-2020, 06:15 PM

Found some pictures on the Net, evidently made by various people, of vintage-looking logos or something. Although I don't know if they were actually ones from the relevant time period or periods in question, to be honest. Here you go, for starters. I think these look fairly cool to me, at least at the present time. Will continue to look for older looks, in any case, Eugene. CD out.

Eugene Church · 01-11-2020, 06:31 PM

Those are logos for businesses, not baseball teams.
No one is going to rework those for you CD.
If that's what you want, those are far too complicated to get done on the Graphics Forum.
You might get logos like the MLB teams I posted just a few posts ago... see post #710... those are real logos from that period of major league baseball... do you not like any of them?

You won't get anything as complex as the ones you posted above.
You need to get more realistic in your graphics requests.

Eugene Church · 01-11-2020, 06:37 PM

Please do this for me... I posted this today, but you didn't reply to it... you just posted those business logos.

I would like to see something you like.
Post two teams logos that you like pre-1910.
Post one set of pre-1910 jerseys and caps for one team that you like.

I just want to get some idea of what you would like as far as pre-1910 logos and jerseys and caps.

Then I can tell you if it is possible to get them done for you.

01-11-2020, 10:27 AM	#702
Clovidequano Dovatha Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Somewhere in the United States of America on God's Earth Posts: 6,896	Found some cool looks here: https://www.pinterest.com/spellbrand...e-logo-design/ I like the ones like the Sherlock Holmes one, the Union Fire one, and the E.L. Brand Temple of Photography one, for instance, from that site. There are other good ones, of course, but maybe some items like any of the items there would work for a number of teams, in terms of their looks, given the time period many of my games are in currently. There are sites those other items link to, no doubt, but I haven't clicked on them yet. If I could do gradients, that would be cool, don't you think? But I'm not sure I have the necessary software to be able to do that, unfortunately, at the present time, nor the knowledge of how to create and use them myself directly without help of some kind. Either vertically or horizontally, at that. I'll try to keep the number of colors down on items, whether requested or not, for sure, and I do try, to be honest. It's hard for me to do, however, at times. You said my Worcester Ruby Legs items were the best I've ever done here. But now you just said my Maholin Rustlers are the best that I've done so far. Which is it? I'm trying real hard not to upset people, and all, for I really don't want a repeat of prior problems if I can possibly avoid that sort of thing in the future. Yes, I am picky, as you have said, and I may have gotten very close to being banned, but I'm trying to do better around here, for sure. I think a number of Low's recent sets, for example, will work for a number of teams in various fictional nations of mine, although I won't necessarily be able to use the ones with a certain location mentioned on them. Same thing with a number of other items from other designers here. Even though they may not quite fit certain time periods well, I will probably use them for certain teams, whether extant or not at the present time, in any of my leagues/saved games, et cetera. Thank you for your time and attention and advice, Eugene. It is much appreciated by this periodically stubborn middle-aged man with various personal issues in his life that he's asked God for help with quite often, for sure. Have a good day, I hope. We'll talk more later, I'm sure, Lord willing. CD out. __________________ Some Favorite Bible Verses: Proverbs 16:7 KJV Romans 12:18 KJV Philippians 2:1-11 KJV DeviantArt: https://www.deviantart.com/clovidequano-dovatha GBA: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=316515 EC's IPA: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=158631 Updates to my various threads may be delayed or sporadic, and requests may still be some time away, while I continue working on LUtD. CD out.

01-11-2020, 10:38 AM	#703
Clovidequano Dovatha Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Somewhere in the United States of America on God's Earth Posts: 6,896	Please feel free to mention the above link in the Anashe-related thread, if you like, and mention which items I said I liked at least a little, at the very least. I'm going to remain quiet in that thread for a while, until and unless they ask for further clarification or until I decide enough work has now been done for that team, at least. Thanks. CD out. __________________ Some Favorite Bible Verses: Proverbs 16:7 KJV Romans 12:18 KJV Philippians 2:1-11 KJV DeviantArt: https://www.deviantart.com/clovidequano-dovatha GBA: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=316515 EC's IPA: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=158631 Updates to my various threads may be delayed or sporadic, and requests may still be some time away, while I continue working on LUtD. CD out.

01-11-2020, 11:09 AM	#706
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 35,092 Blog Entries: 1	Find two pre-1920 style logos that you like and post them here in this thread as examples of what you like . Find one set of pre-1920 style jerseys and caps that you like and post it as an example of what you like. But post them here first for me to revise before you post them in the Anashe thread. You must keep your instructions simple and uncomplicated. Last edited by Eugene Church; 01-11-2020 at 11:17 AM.

01-11-2020, 11:11 AM	#707
Clovidequano Dovatha Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Somewhere in the United States of America on God's Earth Posts: 6,896	I didn't say I didn't like your work. It's good, but don't know how well it might fit the necessary era or eras yet. CD out. __________________ Some Favorite Bible Verses: Proverbs 16:7 KJV Romans 12:18 KJV Philippians 2:1-11 KJV DeviantArt: https://www.deviantart.com/clovidequano-dovatha GBA: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=316515 EC's IPA: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=158631 Updates to my various threads may be delayed or sporadic, and requests may still be some time away, while I continue working on LUtD. CD out.

01-11-2020, 11:20 AM	#708
Clovidequano Dovatha Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Somewhere in the United States of America on God's Earth Posts: 6,896	Unusual or unique might be a better way to put things than weird, I think, at times, Eugene. And I have begun making caps and uniforms, at least, as you know. But logos, I've not yet been able to do, for some yet-unknown reason or reasons, it seems. I have ideas for them at times, but haven't been able to create them myself, just yet, somehow. No matter how hard I try to, I still haven't. Whether I'll ever be able to well enough, that still remains to be seen, of course. CD out. __________________ Some Favorite Bible Verses: Proverbs 16:7 KJV Romans 12:18 KJV Philippians 2:1-11 KJV DeviantArt: https://www.deviantart.com/clovidequano-dovatha GBA: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=316515 EC's IPA: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=158631 Updates to my various threads may be delayed or sporadic, and requests may still be some time away, while I continue working on LUtD. CD out.

01-11-2020, 11:28 AM	#709
Clovidequano Dovatha Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Somewhere in the United States of America on God's Earth Posts: 6,896	I'd like to know which fonts others might be using on their items periodically, but dare not ask at this time, at least. That's for obvious reasons, you know. Maybe if and when others are more favorably-thinking of me, it might be okay, but that time has not yet occurred, for sure. CD out. __________________ Some Favorite Bible Verses: Proverbs 16:7 KJV Romans 12:18 KJV Philippians 2:1-11 KJV DeviantArt: https://www.deviantart.com/clovidequano-dovatha GBA: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=316515 EC's IPA: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=158631 Updates to my various threads may be delayed or sporadic, and requests may still be some time away, while I continue working on LUtD. CD out.

01-11-2020, 11:35 AM	#710
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 35,092 Blog Entries: 1	CD, I'm sure you know that teams did not have logos in the 1870s, 80s, 90s... just one or two teams. Is this the type of logo you want for 1910 style logos? I think even I can create simple logos like this. Attached Images Last edited by Eugene Church; 01-11-2020 at 11:36 AM.

01-11-2020, 11:52 AM	#713
Clovidequano Dovatha Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Somewhere in the United States of America on God's Earth Posts: 6,896	Some known historical teams may have had logos pre-1901, but not sure how many. Those kinds of looks might work to a degree, post-1900, at least, but not sure yet for certain teams. I'm better at describing things than making them, often, I think. Some real-world locations might not have had teams back then, of course. Many of my requests, though, have been or are for teams in fictional cities, leagues, or nations. Which may make things more complicated at times, I'm sure. Nations like Ruifrapso Sokumi, for instance. Since a lot probably hasn't been revealed about it at present, that makes certain things a bit more difficult, at times, no doubt. It is associated with Slaabovia to a degree, however, so many of the same influences present for Slaabovia likely will touch or have already touched the styles used by many people from there, in any time period. I'll think some more, and get back to you soon. Thank you for your patience and understanding and all, Eugene. CD out. __________________ Some Favorite Bible Verses: Proverbs 16:7 KJV Romans 12:18 KJV Philippians 2:1-11 KJV DeviantArt: https://www.deviantart.com/clovidequano-dovatha GBA: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=316515 EC's IPA: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=158631 Updates to my various threads may be delayed or sporadic, and requests may still be some time away, while I continue working on LUtD. CD out.

01-11-2020, 12:37 PM	#714
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 35,092 Blog Entries: 1	I would like to see something you like. Post two teams logos that you like pre-1910. Post one set of pre-1910 jerseys and caps for one team that you like. I just want to get some idea of what you would like as far as pre-1910 logos and jerseys and caps.

01-11-2020, 12:57 PM	#716
Clovidequano Dovatha Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Somewhere in the United States of America on God's Earth Posts: 6,896	Ok, when I get back to my desktop or laptop, I'll see what I can find. But not working on them at the moment. CD out. __________________ Some Favorite Bible Verses: Proverbs 16:7 KJV Romans 12:18 KJV Philippians 2:1-11 KJV DeviantArt: https://www.deviantart.com/clovidequano-dovatha GBA: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=316515 EC's IPA: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=158631 Updates to my various threads may be delayed or sporadic, and requests may still be some time away, while I continue working on LUtD. CD out.

01-11-2020, 06:09 PM	#717
Clovidequano Dovatha Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Somewhere in the United States of America on God's Earth Posts: 6,896	No, actually, I didn't know that many teams didn't actually have logos as we'd typically now think of them, prior to 1901, at least. Thank you for the information. Eugene, would advertising looks from the appropriate time periods help, for instance, perhaps? I'm just wondering, that's all. CD out. __________________ Some Favorite Bible Verses: Proverbs 16:7 KJV Romans 12:18 KJV Philippians 2:1-11 KJV DeviantArt: https://www.deviantart.com/clovidequano-dovatha GBA: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=316515 EC's IPA: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=158631 Updates to my various threads may be delayed or sporadic, and requests may still be some time away, while I continue working on LUtD. CD out.

01-11-2020, 06:15 PM	#718
Clovidequano Dovatha Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Somewhere in the United States of America on God's Earth Posts: 6,896	Found some pictures on the Net, evidently made by various people, of vintage-looking logos or something. Although I don't know if they were actually ones from the relevant time period or periods in question, to be honest. Here you go, for starters. I think these look fairly cool to me, at least at the present time. Will continue to look for older looks, in any case, Eugene. CD out. Attached Images __________________ Some Favorite Bible Verses: Proverbs 16:7 KJV Romans 12:18 KJV Philippians 2:1-11 KJV DeviantArt: https://www.deviantart.com/clovidequano-dovatha GBA: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=316515 EC's IPA: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=158631 Updates to my various threads may be delayed or sporadic, and requests may still be some time away, while I continue working on LUtD. CD out.

01-11-2020, 06:31 PM	#719
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 35,092 Blog Entries: 1	Those are logos for businesses, not baseball teams. No one is going to rework those for you CD. If that's what you want, those are far too complicated to get done on the Graphics Forum. You might get logos like the MLB teams I posted just a few posts ago... see post #710... those are real logos from that period of major league baseball... do you not like any of them? You won't get anything as complex as the ones you posted above. You need to get more realistic in your graphics requests. Last edited by Eugene Church; 01-11-2020 at 06:34 PM.

01-11-2020, 06:37 PM	#720
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 35,092 Blog Entries: 1	Please do this for me... I posted this today, but you didn't reply to it... you just posted those business logos. I would like to see something you like. Post two teams logos that you like pre-1910. Post one set of pre-1910 jerseys and caps for one team that you like. I just want to get some idea of what you would like as far as pre-1910 logos and jerseys and caps. Then I can tell you if it is possible to get them done for you.