SBC (Predecessor of SRL) Champions going into 1877 season

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

I like ruwisc's Columbus Explorers looks, I think, and if I decide to do Turn Ahead The Clock-style games, I might even use them at times, for my team by that name, until I get to the Space Age, or even later, of course. Among other looks that he's recently created, at that. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

That Bees look for Salt Lake City or Salt Lake is pretty snazzy too, come to think of it, that he did for his project. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

If you can, and want, when you do your two NIRL and SIRL-related dynasty reports, I would hope you would be able to find articles also related to the events in the Middle East in the 1950's, at least periodically. And perhaps even include them from time to time in relation to your real life around then, et cetera. But that's entirely up to you, of course, you know, Eugene. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

Okay. I'll stay quiet, unless they ask for more clarification, regarding the Jazz. CD out.

Just answer their questions in simple terms... don't expand on them and get verbose and offer too much explanation.

The less complex your requests are, the easier it is for them to do them.

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

If you can, and want, when you do your two NIRL and SIRL-related dynasty reports, I would hope you would be able to find articles also related to the events in the Middle East in the 1950's, at least periodically. And perhaps even include them from time to time in relation to your real life around then, et cetera. But that's entirely up to you, of course, you know, Eugene. CD out.

No, sorry... the Middle East was not a part of my life in the 1950s.
Just Mobile, Alabama, Northwest Alabama and New Orleans, Louisiana and life in the USA.

Around the world the big story was the Korean War, at least relative to the USA and my life.

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

I think I can use them, but not sure yet, as main ones. Certainly as alternates, in any case, along with several others already posted in the thread. I do like them, in truth, and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with them, mind you. They just may not fit at the present time, as main logos, considering the fact that I've never made it to the 1950's or later, if I haven't started then or later, just yet, with any of my dynasties.

The others were asking for clarification about certain things, by the way, so I was trying to clarify things as simply as I could, as best as I could. Hopefully, they aren't upset by my doing so here, of course. But if they are, then that wasn't my intention, you know.

Thanks for your input and all. I will save the logos, in any case, soon, if I haven't already, I'm sure. CD out.

I don't think you have offended anyone yet... they just don't understand what you want.

Like, for instance, your instructions for logos... you don't want them to be round, circular or square... well, that really limits what they can do... those are the main types of logos... almost all that I see are circular or round... with a few square.

Just say you want a logo... and let them decide to it round or circular or square... or otherwise.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Well, there was a conflict in that region by 1956, at least. Maybe if you see any articles, you can post clippings. Just a thought, that's all. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

Well, there was a conflict in that region by 1956, at least. Maybe if you see any articles, you can post clippings. Just a thought, that's all. CD out.

CD, I am well aware of the fact the Middle East had conflict in the 50s... they have had conflict for 2000 years... it just wasn't an important thing in my life at the time... I just try to include things relevant to my life at the time.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Fair enough, Eugene. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Echelon, not eshelon. Just so you know. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

As for the Diamondbacks, I think they look best in their original colors. Same thing for the Rays AKA Devil Rays. Angels look best with their California Angels-era look from the late 70's to early 80's.

Marlins look best in Florida Marlins-era looks, while the MLB Rockies are okay-looking, but they could perhaps improve the look by including at least one color from the prior hockey team in their look, maybe yellow or red, similar to how Txranger, if I remember correctly, might have done them before, if not exactly like that.

Several current MLB teams, according to sportslogos.net, are not using circular or square logos as main logos, generally speaking. Of course, some teams, like the Nationals, for example, do use them, but many of the current teams do not.

I don't like the Cubs much, to be honest, seeing as they're the Cardinals' fiercest rival, I think, but they have had some good logos and uniforms, at least, in the past, if not also caps. The ones with the bears in them, mainly, those they should perhaps use more, if and whenever possible, in my view.

And even though I don't like the Royals much either, I still have to admit they've had good logos too, at least, if not uniforms and/or caps. They should do more with the gold than they typically do, and maybe use both main shades of blue if and whenever they update their looks again enough, with only a little white present normally, perhaps.

Just some thoughts here related to certain teams around MLB, at least, when it comes to their current or prior historical looks, upon further reflection and all. Feel free to agree with me or not as you like, of course, Eugene. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Here's an attempt to keep things as brief as possible for the next team, the Maholin Rustlers, once Anashe's items are completely done, if they aren't already. Feel free to look this over, and give me your thoughts, of course, if you like and all.

CD needs items for Maholin Rustlers:

Primary Logo (300x300 size preferred)
Secondary Logo (150x150 size preferred)
Pre-1920's style
Prefer non-circular and non-square logos, but will consider all provided items for use

Please use the colors and Winslett font style seen on the items below, or use your own colors or fonts, as you so choose, for the logos in question, if you make any of them. As for the image or images you include as part of your proposed logo or logos, you may choose it or them as you wish. I have no definite idea in mind for them, other than the team name, in truth.

Thank you for your time and attention, and I look forwards to seeing what you graphics masters can come up with. CD out.

P.S. Eugene, can you please suggest revisions that will get my exact wishes across clearly with less words, perhaps, here? For I really do not want to upset anyone needlessly, if I can possibly avoid it, you know. Thanks. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

Here's an attempt to keep things as brief as possible for the next team, the Maholin Rustlers, once Anashe's items are completely done, if they aren't already. Feel free to look this over, and give me your thoughts, of course, if you like and all.

CD needs items for Maholin Rustlers:

Primary Logo (300x300 size preferred)
Secondary Logo (150x150 size preferred)
Pre-1920's style
Prefer non-circular and non-square logos, but will consider all provided items for use

Please use the colors and Winslett font style seen on the items below, or use your own colors or fonts, as you so choose, for the logos in question, if you make any of them. As for the image or images you include as part of your proposed logo or logos, you may choose it or them as you wish. I have no definite idea in mind for them, other than the team name, in truth.

Thank you for your time and attention, and I look forwards to seeing what you graphics masters can come up with. CD out.

P.S. Eugene, can you please suggest revisions that will get my exact wishes across clearly with less words, perhaps, here? For I really do not want to upset anyone needlessly, if I can possibly avoid it, you know. Thanks. CD out.

First of all, you did a decent job of picking colors that go together a little bit... this is best you have ever done... I still wish you would use regular colors like most people do... and only use two or three colors... you would have a better chance of getting help if you did... very few people would use the colors you choose... or 5 or 6 colors like you do.
If I were you I wouldn't post the jerseys and the caps... there are too many colors for them to deal with... they will just confuse them... you should just list the colors you want... and limit them to no more than three.... you must have 5 or 6 colors on your caps and jerseys combined... that is too many.
I just listed the colors that you used that would go together the best and only listed three... more than that will keep the designers from helping you.

Here is a simple post... just post the BOLD PART:.. this is all you need to post... I made it simple and to the point by editing out all the unnecessary words you wrote.
Leave your name out of the request... try to be as anonymous as possible... as you know, CD is not one of the most popular posters on the OOTP Forums.
I suggest you post a screenshot or two of a pre-1920s logos that you like... that would give them some idea of what you want.

Need graphics for Maholin Rustlers... Primary Logo and Secondary Logo Only:
Team Colors: Tan, Crimson, Blue

Primary Logo (300x300 size preferred)
Secondary Logo (150x150 size preferred)
Pre-1920's style (see two screenshot samples below)
Prefer non-circular and non-square logos, but will consider anything you do.
Use my colors... or choose your own colors.
Use my fonts... or choose your own fonts
Feel free to create your own design for the mascot image.

Much appreciate any help you give me.

Just post the above... you don't need to be wordy and verbose... just clearly state what you want... nothing else.

If they ask a question, give them a simple, uncomplicated reply.
Do not ask for revisions unless they clearly indicate that they will make changes.

If you don't like what they do, just thank them for the help... say nothing else.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Font used is Winslett, by the way. But they can use another font, of course. If they choose to incorporate the Ruifrapso Sokumi national flag in their designs somehow, designers can try to do so as they wish. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

Font used is Winslett, by the way. But they can use another font, of course. If they choose to incorporate the Ruifrapso Sokumi national flag in their designs somehow, designers can try to do so as they wish. CD out.

You told them they can choose the colors, fonts and designs... Don't list the fonts you want... don't list flags... that only make it harder for them to create something for you.

Just post what I gave you and you will have a better chance of getting the logos produced.

[Eugene Church]

CD, notice that the good graphics people like txranger, low, Lawn Loaf, knuckler, the_mad_monk, rocknfire7 and others only use basically two and three colors for the logos, jerseys and caps... that's its.

Notice that MLB, Minor League and College teams primarily use two to three colors for their logos, jerseys and caps.

That's what you should do, too.

You might get more help in doing your requests if you would.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

I haven't told them yet, unless they've seen the relevant posts in this thread. I was telling you the font I'm using now for Maholin. This request won't be posted until Anashe's overall looks are finalized, at the earliest, I promise.

As certain teams are in certain fictional nations of mine, their traditional looks may be different from most people's expectations, at least at first. Not all, of course, but some or several might be, depending on how cosmopolitan the home locations may be, in certain cases.

Thanks for your input and all. It's much appreciated, Eugene. Shalom. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

When would it be proper to mention more than three main and/or secondary colors for teams' looks, then, in your view? Just wondering, that's all. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

When would it be proper to mention more than three main and/or secondary colors for teams' looks, then, in your view? Just wondering, that's all. CD out.

I don't know of a case where 4, 5 and 6 colors have ever been used on a baseball logo... there might be one or two, but I don't recall a single one.

CD, two or three colors are all that is needed... more colors than that are not needed.

I don't know any teams that use more than 2-3 colors.

Why do you have to have 4, 5 and 6 colors?

You need to do your own logos, jerseys and caps if you want 4, 5 and 6 colors on them... no one but you wants that many colors.

Look at MLB... teams use two colors plus white almost all of the time... and that is what most of the people in OOTP do... only you want 4,5 and 6 colors.

If that is what you want, do them yourself... you are not going to get anyone on the OOTP Graphics Forum to do that kind of logos, jerseys and caps.

You will be just wasting your time posting requests of 4, 5, and 6 colors on the Forum... and should you start again posting like you used to, the Forum people will not like it.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Baseball teams that have evidently used more than three major colors, if memory serves:

Boston Braves 1929-1935, because they had a chief's head in the middle of their team name, or as part of their main logo or logos.

Miami Marlins 2012-2016 or 2018, when they had the orange as part of their logo or color schemes for their uniforms and caps, if not also their wordmarks.

There may be other teams, but not many, with more than three colors on their uniforms, throughout baseball history, but there are many teams with yet-unfound looks, no doubt.

I do see your point, however, I think, in regards to colors. I guess it basically boils down to people's personal tastes and all, then, generally speaking, in regards to designs and all. You prefer simplicity, evidently, while I suppose I prefer more detailed looks, whenever possible, and all, most times.

Nothing wrong with how you see things, of course. I can accept you have different preferences and all for looks without taking offense. I mean, this world would be pretty boring and all, wouldn't you say, if people always liked the same things, et cetera, that others did?

After all, God made each of us different for reasons we may not fully understand just yet in this life, if we ever will. And He certainly didn't make any of us robots of a sort, at all, as well, for sure. Thank you for your input, and I'll try to keep it in mind in the future, of course. There is much merit in what you say, and much logic too.

May God help us both learn to do His will better in our lives in any possible way or ways that He may want us to, Eugene. No matter what that will requires of us, and no matter whose lives we may touch or have already touched in each of our lives. I wish you only the best possible, according to His will, in your life. Talk to you soon, I hope.

With my most sincere friendly wishes, I hope you have a good night, then, Eugene. CD out.