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12-15-2008, 08:59 PM | #1 |
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Coulda been a contendah.
While working with boxrec checking out tomato cans I check opponents. While doing this I found a non-tomato cans that I had assumed to be in my database, but he was not. He was a name fighter in his weight class in the teens. I'll use this thread for fighters not in my data-base that didn't get title shots and are not tomato cans, stiffs, or opponents.
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Joe Mandot
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1909-1921 Global ID 11872 sex male birth date 1891-08-03 death date 1956-07-29 division lightweight nationality United States alias Baker Boy residence New Orleans, Louisiana, United States birth place New Orleans, LA height 5' 6? won 62 (KO 12) + lost 21 (KO 6) + drawn 21 = 105 rounds boxed 942 : KO% 11.43 115 - 138.5 Name fighter in the LW division for the better part of a decade. Could hold his own with anybody but couldn't solve the quality fighters in the division. I view him as a solid 4 or a weak 5 type and rated him accordingly. Didn't play test the rating very much, so feel free to tweek it if you wish. Joe Mandot LW boxer 4
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12-16-2008, 12:42 PM | #3 |
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This looks like a great project and should fill in the many holes for second and third tier fighters who are unrated for TBCB in the lighter divisions.
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Packy Hommey
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1908-1913 Global ID 11890 sex male birth date 1892-07-24 division lightweight nationality United States residence New York, New York, United States birth place Marino, Italy height 5' 3" won 45 (KO 17) + lost 60 (KO 6) + drawn 11 = 140 rounds boxed 1145 : KO% 12.14 122 - 138 lbs Not a contender, but a noted New York City club fighter who crammed 140 fights into a 6 year span. Packy Hommey LW boxer 0
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Tiger Kid Walker
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1930-1940 Global ID 24553 sex male division lightweight nationality United States residence Zanesville, Ohio, United States birth name Jonathan Lee Walker won 79 (KO 26) + lost 37 (KO 12) + drawn 17 = 136 rounds boxed 962 : KO% 19.12 128 - 144 lbs Local terror in Zanesville and Cincinnati Biggest name he beat was Ralph Gizzy Tiger Kid Walker LW slugger 2
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Battling Gizzy
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1928-1936 Global ID 10133 sex male death date 1938-09-11 division welterweight nationality United States alias Mike Urilli residence Donora, Pennsylvania, United States height 5' 7" won 83 (KO 12) + lost 23 (KO 9) + drawn 8 = 114 rounds boxed 879 : KO% 10.53 130 - 147 lbs Battling Gizzy WW slugger 5
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Ralph Gizzy
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1934-1940 Global ID 9950 sex male birth date 1915-03-12 death date 1986-07-00 division welterweight nationality United States alias Young Gizzy residence Donora, Pennsylvania, United States birth name Ralph Urilli won 31 (KO 3) + lost 36 (KO 7) + drawn 3 = 70 rounds boxed 385 : KO% 4.29 134.5 - 154 lbs Notched 2 pre-lim wins over a young Billy Conn Ralph Gizzy WW boxer 2
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Peter Sung
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1922-1931 Global ID 220870 sex male death date 1974-06-12 division middleweight nationality Cuba alias Pedro Gonzalez Canto residence Sancti Spiritus, Cuba won 66 (KO 43) + lost 12 (KO 2) + drawn 17 = 100 rounds boxed 789 : KO% 43 164 - 165 lbs This guy has just jumped into the lead on my list of great fighters no one has ever heard of. Peter Sung MW slugger 8
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I agree Bear, I love Peter the big punching Cuban!
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Rafael Miranda
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1944-1954 Global ID 12464 sex male birth date 1924-10-24 division light heavyweight nationality Argentina residence Mendoza, Argentina birth place Mendoza stance orthodox won 11 (KO 4) + lost 17 (KO 13) + drawn 3 = 31 rounds boxed 226 : KO% 12.9 KO'd by Archie Moore and KO Lausse Rafael Miranda LHW boxer 2
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Dixie Lee Oliver
Dixie Lee Oliver
1936-1946 Global ID 40242 sex male division heavyweight nationality United States residence Washington, District of Columbia, United States birth place Brooksville, FL, USA birth name Otis Lee Oliver height 6' 1" won 19 (KO 8) + lost 11 (KO 8) + drawn 4 = 34 rounds boxed 192 : KO% 23.53 162 - 203.5 lbs beat Gus Dorazio and Colion Chaney and had a draw vs. Elemer Ray. Stopped by Ray, Baksi, and Savold 1941 won Southern Heavyweight Title Main event of the first all-colored card staged by the colored American Legion. Dixie Lee Oliver HW slugger 3
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Noel 'Bluegum' Mathews
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1953-1961 Global ID 120635 sex male division welterweight nationality Australia residence Sydney, New South Wales, Australia stance southpaw won 12 (KO 7) + lost 7 (KO 2) + drawn 1 = 20 rounds boxed 123 : KO% 35 138 - 149 final bout stopped on cuts, a tko loss a decent prospect who never took the next step Noel 'Bluegum' Mathews WW slugger 2
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Wilfredo Mayet
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1944-1951 Global ID 71665 sex male birth date 1925-01-18 death date 2005-03-31 division lightweight nationality Cuba residence Santiago de Cuba, Cuba won 26 (KO 20) + lost 11 (KO 6) + drawn 0 = 37 rounds boxed 190 : KO% 54.05 128 - 136 lbs hot Cuban prospect with meteric career and a big punch 2 KO losses to Benjamin Filio Prado derailed him from the fast track loss to Orlando Zulueta effectively ended his career Wilfredo Mayet LW slugger 5
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Benjamin Filio Prado
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1944-1949 Global ID 37832 sex male division lightweight nationality Mexico residence Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico won 15 (KO 9) + lost 21 (KO 12) + drawn 5 = 41 rounds boxed 267 : KO% 21.95 125.5 - 140 lbs Benjamin Filio Prado LW Either 4
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Pork Chops Alexander
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1937-1940 Global ID 334140 sex male division welterweight nationality United States residence Houston, Texas, United States birth name Robert Alexander won 14 (KO 7) + lost 6 (KO 0) + drawn 4 = 25 rounds boxed 120 : KO% 28 133 - 168 weight problems ? Pork Chops Alexander WW slugger 2
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Abel Ricardo Laudonio
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1961-1965 Global ID 45356 sex male birth date 1938-08-30 division lightweight nationality Argentina residence Buenos Aires, Argentina stance orthodox won 48 (KO 37) + lost 6 (KO 1) + drawn 2 = 56 rounds boxed 348 : KO% 66.07 131.5 - 136.75 lbs ON 1960 Argentine Olympic team stopped once on tko in final bout of career Argentine LW champ winning title from Locche 1 and 2 vs. Locche losing a South American title shot to him 1 DQ loss A lightweight with a big punch who put away two thirds of his opponents. One of the very few guys to beat Locche. His early retirement and the comparative length of Locche's career have left Abel Ricardo among the forgotten guys of boxing. Abel Ricardo Laudonio LW slugger 8
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Professor Jack Stagpoole
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1877-1895 Global ID 284255 sex male birth date 1849-01-01 death date 1929-07-01 division middleweight nationality New Zealand residence New Plymouth, NZ birth place Kilkenny, Ireland won 2 (KO 2) + lost 2 (KO 1) + drawn 2 = 7 rounds boxed 49 : KO% 28.57 147 - 156 lbs Professor Jack Stagpoole MW boxer 3
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1957-1968 Global ID 45350 sex male birth date 1939-10-08 division lightweight nationality Argentina residence birth place Cordoba stance orthodox won 37 (KO 19) + lost 11 (KO 10) + drawn 6 = 54 rounds boxed 387 : KO% 35.19 won the Cordoban LW title 1958-12-05 vs Hugo Juarez on a 12 round decision 1 known retention 1963-11-15 vs Vicente Vezzoni another 12 round decision fought Locche twice, stopped once and drew other bout Tristan Falfán LW either 4
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1957-1969 Global ID 16405 sex male birth date 1937-12-01 division flyweight nationality Uruguay alias Bulldog residence Buenos Aires, Distrito Federal, Argentina birth place Montevideo, Uruguay birth name Horacio Júpiter Mansilla won 38 (KO 18) + lost 23 (KO 3) + drawn 12 = 73 rounds boxed 614 : KO% 24.66 110 - 117.75 lbs Uruguayan FLY champ with 2 defenses Lost shot at South American FLY title to Horacio Accavallo in '63 Last career win was a year later Five post prime years of losing skewed his career marks with 11 losses Jupiter Mansilla FLY slugger 4
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