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Old 02-23-2020, 07:18 PM   #441
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Fans will ridicule the Astros until they're tired of it. Preventing fans from doing that (by confiscating their signs, evicting them from the park, etc) will give fans more energy ans desire to ridicule the Astros.

If a team tried something like a trash can night, the commissioner would stop it. Not that there's much of a chance. Owners aren't going to taunt other members of their guaranteed profit club.
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Old 02-23-2020, 07:20 PM   #442
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If Manfred didn't get these answers, then his "deal" with the union and players was even weaker than most presume it already was. Or his people asking questions were morons.
Good investigators - detectives, insurance adjusters, etc - are trained. No reason to believe Manfred's people knew any more about investigating than the guy working the drive up window at Taco Bell.
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Old 02-24-2020, 04:15 PM   #443
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Fans will ridicule the Astros until they're tired of it. Preventing fans from doing that (by confiscating their signs, evicting them from the park, etc) will give fans more energy ans desire to ridicule the Astros.

If a team tried something like a trash can night, the commissioner would stop it. Not that there's much of a chance. Owners aren't going to taunt other members of their guaranteed profit club.
I think Bonds was booed and had * signs directed at him on the road, from the day he hit #71 in 2001, until the day he retired. I find it interesting that that behaviour was allowed, but this was not.

I think the reason these got taken down is because the game was in Houston's home park (Houston and Washington share their spring training facilities). This sort of crap better not happen in road stadiums when the Astr*s come to play this year, but knowing baseball it will. Fans, and players on other teams, have every right to their anger. Cutting off the expression of that anger could escalate things even further. MLB had better think long and hard about what steps they take here, lest they make it worse. Given their track record, I'm not all that optimistic they'll make the right choice though.
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Fans, and players on other teams, have every right to their anger. Cutting off the expression of that anger could escalate things even further. MLB had better think long and hard about what steps they take here, lest they make it worse. Given their track record, I'm not all that optimistic they'll make the right choice though.
Hmmm... The Pittsburgh Alleghenys changed their name when accused of piracy.
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Hmmm... The Pittsburgh Alleghenys changed their name when accused of piracy.
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Trevor Bauer continues to shine. He now says 70% of pitchers are cheating. This of course brings his "spin" comments back into focus and if you remember, those comments were directed at the Astros as well.

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Old 02-25-2020, 03:31 PM   #447
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Trevor Bauer continues to shine. He now says 70% of pitchers are cheating. This of course brings his "spin" comments back into focus and if you remember, those comments were directed at the Astros as well.
What were the spin comments again?
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What were the spin comments again?
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/i...and-mlb-rules/
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What were the spin comments again?
He took a back door swipe at Astros, saying "If only there was a quick way to increase spin rate. Like what if you could trade for a player knowing you could bump his spin rate a couple hundred rpm overnight.....imagine the steals you could get on the trade market if only that existed.."
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This story won’t die. As most people correctly assumed the league already knew about this. Such a bad look.

https://nypost.com/2020/02/28/were-d...cheating-doom/
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Baseball didn't care about what was right. It just wanted the problem to go away. I bet Manfred and Company were really pissed when the Fiers story came out.
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This story won’t die. As most people correctly assumed the league already knew about this. Such a bad look.

https://nypost.com/2020/02/28/were-d...cheating-doom/
Wow, Joe Torre was surely prophetic. Nailed it.
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Wow, Joe Torre was surely prophetic. Nailed it.
It's not prophecy. It's observing life. This is why corporations enforce non disclosure agreements and require key personnel to sign contracts preventing them from working for the competition if they choose to leave.
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Wonder if it was deliberate.............
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ESPN really digging deep there...
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I don't own a Playstation. Can't believe how real that looks. Amazing.
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Well, there's gotta be some reason why games are 50 GB and up these days...
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Precisely my thoughts
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Looking at the graphics in The Show and listening to the announcers is why it bothers me so much OOTP doesn't have a decent announcer. I can live with a far away view of generic players, but c'mon, let's have a decent announcer.

Call up Curt Gowdy's estate and license the right to synthesize his voice.
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Looking at the graphics in The Show and listening to the announcers is why it bothers me so much OOTP doesn't have a decent announcer. I can live with a far away view of generic players, but c'mon, let's have a decent announcer.

Call up Curt Gowdy's estate and license the right to synthesize his voice.
Meh
At least give me the option to turn the announcer off and just hear ballpark sounds
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