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Old 01-29-2014, 11:58 AM   #21
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Most people definitely don't play OOTP on more than two computers. Still though, I agree that for the rare player who does use 3+ computers, buying the game on steam or getting a steam key is a big plus and the only way to go about purchasing.

but you will be able to go into any internet café travelling the world and play the game. can you image, you are walking the streets of Prague, and you can go and just play, without having to carry your computer with you... 3 days later, Budapest and same thing.. Rome=OOTP...
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Yeah, I am actually not calling that ability down.

I just thought it was odd to read 'there is no reason to not use Steam' followed with 'well, maybe if you only use two or less computers' which would be the vast majority of users, best that I can tell.


I don't use Steam not because I am 'anti-Steam' but because it adds nothing for me.

I download the game, install it, and play it. That's it.

The only reason to switch to Steam is if I am forced to do so.
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Old 01-29-2014, 12:42 PM   #23
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but you will be able to go into any internet café travelling the world and play the game. can you image, you are walking the streets of Prague, and you can go and just play, without having to carry your computer with you... 3 days later, Budapest and same thing.. Rome=OOTP...
I see the advantages, I'm just saying that most people have no need to play on more than 2 computers. I'm not knocking Steam at all, I just personally have no need for it as of now.
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Yeah, I am actually not calling that ability down.

I just thought it was odd to read 'there is no reason to not use Steam' followed with 'well, maybe if you only use two or less computers' which would be the vast majority of users, best that I can tell.


I don't use Steam not because I am 'anti-Steam' but because it adds nothing for me.

I download the game, install it, and play it. That's it.

The only reason to switch to Steam is if I am forced to do so.
I agree with you on that, I will not be switching to Steam unless they add a workshop that becomes the place to get OOTP mods. Steam adds nothing for most veteran players right now. I'm not anti-Steam either at all and I think it'll be very helpful increasing the game's visibility and drawing in new customers, but there just isn't currently any appeal to a vast majority of people who are already yearly OOTP buyers.
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Another advantage is that you can never lose your install, and yet another one is that you never have to worry about updating. Or worry about where you put your CD, or your license number.

If Steam goes to cloud storage for OOTP saves then I can see more people suddenly finding a reason to use it.

A Workshop would be another huge reason to use Steam. Workshops do absolute wonders for modding.
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Well, the average OOTP user...downloads the game, manages his favorite team and that's it.
According to OOTP itself, OOTP MLB play (modern and historical) outnumbers OOTP fictional play three to one.

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If Steam goes to cloud storage for OOTP saves then I can see more people suddenly finding a reason to use it.
Steam going to cloud storage for OOTP saves would be just plain awesome. I would 100% use Steam if that ever happens.

That and a Workshop would get most of us on Steam, I believe.
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Steam going to cloud storage for OOTP saves would be just plain awesome. I would 100% use Steam if that ever happens.

That and a Workshop would get most of us on Steam, I believe.
This would be an absolute game-changer in so many ways.
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Steam going to cloud storage for OOTP saves would be just plain awesome. I would 100% use Steam if that ever happens.

That and a Workshop would get most of us on Steam, I believe.
Those two things and head to head play would get almost everybody, I would bet.
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Well, the average OOTP user...downloads the game, manages his favorite team and that's it.
According to OOTP itself, OOTP MLB play (modern and historical) outnumbers OOTP fictional play three to one.

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but you will be able to go into any internet café travelling the world and play the game. can you image, you are walking the streets of Prague, and you can go and just play, without having to carry your computer with you... 3 days later, Budapest and same thing.. Rome=OOTP...
If I was wandering around Rome, Budapest and Prague I'd probably have better things to do than play OOTP.

Not that I disagree with your point as such, just saying
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If I was wandering around Rome, Budapest and Prague I'd probably have better things to do than play OOTP.

Not that I disagree with your point as such, just saying
that actually was the point.... sarcasm does not work well on the internet :-)
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I know nothing about steam, but reading this thread leads me to ask this -- does using steam mean that you do not need to install any software on your computer?
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Yeah, I thought the whole multiple computer thing sounded so cool. That was when I was under the impression it was some type of cloud service in which I could play the same league on whatever computer I may be using at the time. Since it's not, I'm not all that thrilled one way or the other. If the whole mod thing (I guess it's called a workshop)gets up and running, I could get interested, as I'm not the swiftest tool in the garage when it comes to installing mods.
Well Wolf is under the impression that all those millions are the demographic of a simulation baseball game, and that is not the case.

If anyone thinks baseball is getting new fans by the millions each year, that is not the case, and OOTP, I would venture to guess is like a fiscal conservative viewpoint...the older you get the more appealing it is.

Games like MLB the Show, a PC version with Mods and H2h is absolutely appealing, to 40 yr old guys ? I'm not so sure...we suck at learning new tricks
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I know nothing about steam, but reading this thread leads me to ask this -- does using steam mean that you do not need to install any software on your computer?
You need the Steam software installed, which holds all the games you've bought. From there, you can pick and choose which games are downloaded and installed.
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Well Wolf is under the impression that all those millions are the demographic of a simulation baseball game, and that is not the case.
Wrong. Those sixty-five million are POTENTIAL customers. OOTP should see how many it could sell the game to.

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Games like MLB the Show, a PC version with Mods and H2h is absolutely appealing, to 40 yr old guys ? I'm not so sure...we suck at learning new tricks
You missed it. That was OOTP with head to head, not MLB The Show. During the numerous threads requesting OOTP head to head, 40+ year old guys were the ones talking about how much they wanted it.
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Well, the average OOTP user...downloads the game, manages his favorite team and that's it.
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I know nothing about steam, but reading this thread leads me to ask this -- does using steam mean that you do not need to install any software on your computer?
It does not.
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You need the Steam software installed, which holds all the games you've bought. From there, you can pick and choose which games are downloaded and installed.
So you probably can't play in a random internet cafe because I assume most places like that would block you from downloading the Steam software, let alone the game software. Or at work, for that matter, not that any of us would want to do that!
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I think we've just stumbled onto a new business venture... Steam Cafes.
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So you probably can't play in a random internet cafe because I assume most places like that would block you from downloading the Steam software, let alone the game software. Or at work, for that matter, not that any of us would want to do that!
Yeah, exactly.
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Well Wolf is under the impression that all those millions are the demographic of a simulation baseball game, and that is not the case.

If anyone thinks baseball is getting new fans by the millions each year, that is not the case, and OOTP, I would venture to guess is like a fiscal conservative viewpoint...the older you get the more appealing it is.

Games like MLB the Show, a PC version with Mods and H2h is absolutely appealing, to 40 yr old guys ? I'm not so sure...we suck at learning new tricks
I don't think age really has a lot to do with it. I personally got into OOTP a few years ago when i was 19 because I love baseball and spent a ton of time reading about and analyzing transactions, and could never enjoy console baseball games because the minor leagues and contract negotiations were so unrealistic.

My interests within the game have definitely evolved, as originally I just played MLB quickstart leagues with the Braves and tried to "be Frank Wren" and now I am playing fully fictional stats-only with dynasty reports.

The demographic of OOTP is not really an age group in my opinion, it's more of a subset of hardcore baseball fans of all ages.

I'm 22 years old and I'm sure there are more posters around here my age or younger. I know one guy mentioned he was 13 on a thread last week.
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I know nothing about steam, but reading this thread leads me to ask this -- does using steam mean that you do not need to install any software on your computer?
You have to install the game locally. It also installs the latest patch which in the case of v14 is not something I want.
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