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OOTP 15 - General Discussions Discuss the new 2014 version of Out of the Park Baseball here! |
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01-28-2014, 12:12 PM | #1 |
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A review of historical postseason formats
Pre-1922 formats varied depending on the distance between the cities, I'm using the closest approximations here. The 1921 World Series was a Subway Series with alternating "home field", but the 1920 format would have presumably been used had the Yankees not been involved. The same goes for 1944, which would presumably have used the 1943/45 format.
*1871-1904: One round, best-of-9 (3h 4a 2h) 1905-1917: One round, best-of-7 (2h 2a 1h 1a 1h) 1918: One round, best-of-7 (3a 4h) - World War I 1919-1921: One round, best-of-9 (3h 4a 2h) 1922-1942: One round, best-of-7 (2h 3a 2h) 1943-1945: One round, best-of-7 (3a 4h) - World War II 1946-1968: One round, best-of-7 (2h 3a 2h) 1969-1984: Two rounds, 5/7 (2a 3h/2h 3a 2h) 1985-1993: Two rounds, 7/7 (2h 3a 2h/2h 3a 2h) 1994-1997: Three rounds, 5/7/7 (2a 3h/2h 3a 2h/2h 3a 2h) 1998-2011: Three rounds, 5/7/7 (2h 2a 1h/2h 3a 2h/2h 3a 2h) 2012: Four rounds, 1/5/7/7 (1/2a 3h/2h 3a 2h/2h 3a 2h) 2013-present: Four rounds, 1/5/7/7 (1/2h 2a 1h/2h 3a 2h/2h 3a 2h) *Used only in 1903 IRL, no World Series in 1904. Since nineteenth century WS formats were so varied, the 1903 format should probably be used. Home field formats: WORLD SERIES 1871-1994: AL home odd years, NL home even years 1995-2002: AL home even years, NL home odd years 2003-present: All-Star Game winner LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES 1969-1984: AL East/NL West home even years, AL West/NL East home odd years 1985-1993: AL East/NL West home odd years, AL West/NL East home even years **1994-1997: Home team is the winner of the series that did not contain the wild card 1998-present: Home team is the better seed **This is a simplification of the real life format, since the real format is impossible to replicate in OOTP. DIVISION SERIES Note: Prior to 2012, the home teams swap if the wild card would play the winner of their division. However, this stipulation is not possible in OOTP. 1994: AL West @ AL East, AL WC @ AL Central, NL Central @ NL East, NL WC @ NL West 1995: AL East @ AL Central, AL WC @ AL West, NL West @ NL Central, NL WC @ NL East 1996: AL Central @ AL West, AL WC @ AL East, NL East @ NL West, NL WC @ NL Central 1997: AL West @ AL East, AL WC @ AL Central, NL Central @ NL East, NL WC @ NL West 1998-present: Seeding-based, reseeding is irrelevant but should be turned on WILD CARD GAME 2012-present: Seeding-based |
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1995: NL East vs. NL Wild Card, NL West vs. NL Central; NL Central has HFA if they advance to NLCS. |
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Someone's pitching into my wheelhouse I see.
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Here is how home field advantage was assigned to the divisions: 1994: AL East*, AL Central; NL Central, NL West* 1995: AL East, AL West*; NL East, NL Central* 1996: AL Central*, AL West; NL East*, NL West 1997: AL East*, AL Central; NL Central, NL West* Divisions marked with an * also received home field advantage for the LCS, or it went to the club that defeated them (excluding the wild card). Here's an example of how this arrangement affected the matchups for the Division Series. In 1995 the AL standings looked like this: Code:
1. Cleveland AL Central .694 2. Boston AL EAST .597 3. Seattle AL WEST* .544 ============================== 4. New York AL East .548 But because home field advantage was assigned to the East and West divisions, New York can't play Cleveland since Cleveland doesn't have home field advantage. It can't play Boston either since they are both from the same division. So New York plays Seattle and Cleveland plays Boston, with Seattle and Boston having the home field advantage. If Seattle wins it gets home field advantage for the ALCS; if it loses then the winner of Boston/Cleveland gets home field advantage since New York, as a wild card, never gets home field advantage. It is perhaps easier to see how the matchups work by rearranging the standings. First, order by record the two clubs from the divisions assigned home field advantage; third place goes to the remaining division winner; and fourth place goes to the wild card qualifier. The 1995 AL standings now look like this: Code:
1. Boston AL EAST .597 2. Seattle AL WEST* .544 ------------------------------ 3. Cleveland AL Central .694 ============================== 4. New York AL East .548 Last edited by Le Grande Orange; 01-28-2014 at 03:42 PM. |
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01-28-2014, 03:46 PM | #4 |
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thanks. nice work.
i know it was because of the strike, but was 1981 considered 3 rounds of playoff, or the first additional round only to determine the division champion, and not considered play-off? |
01-28-2014, 03:54 PM | #5 |
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It was three rounds necessitated by the strike, which created two halves and no team won its division in both halves. It was not the format that would have been used had there been no strike.
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01-29-2014, 01:26 PM | #6 |
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Re: 1994-1997
Under the format in my post, the non-hosting division winner indeed gets HFA if they advance to the LCS. OOTP unfortunately cannot set HFA for every possible combination of teams, so it's impossible to replicate the exact rules. |
01-29-2014, 08:27 PM | #7 |
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This is a great subject!
At the risk of being redundant as to what's already been posted above, I'm including my compilation of postseason-related historical rules, which includes scheduling parameters for MLB postseason series' (info for division series not as complete as WS and LCS) and also info tiebreakers and make-up game policy. Significant pieces of this were obtained from LGO's postings over the years... I refer to this often when I approach the end of my OOTP historical seasons. Code:
WORLD SERIES Best-of 1903, 1919-1921 9 1905-1918, 1922- 7 Home/Away Format 1903 (best of 9) 3-4-1 according to a teams-negotiated agreement 1905-1917, 1922-1924 alternating games or 2-2-1-1, depending upon geography 1919-1920 (best of 9) 3-4-1, 2-3-2-1, or alternating games, depending upon geography (341 may have only been used due to ballpark availability issues in 1920) 1921 (best of 9) 2-2-2-2 or alternating games, depending upon geography (possibly 341 or 2321 if contending teams had presented possible geography issues) 1925- 2-3-2 (alternating parks were likely the rule for same city matchups thru 1935) war years: 1918 alternating games if both teams from same city, else 3-4 (entire schedule determined by National Commission) 1943-1945 2-3-2 if no travel days required, else 3-4 Opening Game(s) Location 1905-1909 determined by National Commission (lot or discretion) 1910-1917, 1919-1924 coin toss between owners of the two 1st-place clinching teams 1925-1935 NL in odd years/AL in even years 1936-1993 NL in even years/AL in odd years (change in 1936 due to rule not followed in 1935) 1994 playoffs not held but would have opened in AL due to potential conflicts with NFL, due to MLB's expanded playoffs (1995 & 1996 World Series' would've both opened in NL) 1995-2002 NL in odd years/AL in even years (change in 1995 due to no World Series in 1994) 2003- awarded to team from league that wins the All-Star Game war years: 1918 unclear if determined by National Commission or by coin toss Final Game Location 1905-1908 determined by National Commission (in practice, a coin flip called by league presidents or team managers) 1909-1917, 1922-1924 coin toss prior to game 6 (so teams know ahead of time if travel be required between games 6 & 7) 1919-1921 (best of 9) coin toss prior to game 8 (so teams know ahead of time if travel be required between games 8 & 9) 1925- fixed site, based upon 2-3-2 format (alternating parks were likely the rule for same city matchups thru 1935) war years: 1918 3-4 format, entire schedule determined by National Commission 1943-1945 2-3-2 format dictates location of final two games unless 3-4 format required due to travel Days Off Prior to Start of Series 1906-1920 typically one 1921-1968 typically two, ocassionally 1 or 3 1969-1976 varies, begins on Saturday following the conclusion of LCS' 1977-1984 varies, begins on Tuesday following the conclusion of LCS' 1985-2006 varies, begins on Saturday following the conclusion of LCS' 2007- varies, begins on Wednesday following the conclusion of LCS' Off Days During Series 1905-1934 typically no off days unless needed for travel or due to Sunday baseball prohibitions Eastern states' Sunday baseball prohibition lifted: 1918 - Washington, DC 1919 - New York 1929 - Massachusetts 1934 - Pennsylvania (no Sunday baseball prohibition in other MLB states: Illinios, Michigan, Missouri, Ohio) 1935-1940, 1947-1959 typically no off days unless needed for travel* 1941-1946 off day between games 6 and 7 regardless of geography (apparently to boost game 7 ticket sales) 1960-1963 off days after games 2 and 5 unless same city, in which case no off days 1964 off days after games 2 and 5 if cities 300+ miles apart, else no off days 1965- travel days/off days scheduled after games 2 & 5, regardless of geography war years: 1943-1944 for 3-4 format: if no days normally required for travel, then one day alloted; if one day normally required for travel, then two days alloted (no travel days for same city 2-3-2 matchup) * as airplane travel became an option in the mid-to-late 50's, the definition of "needed for travel" began to evolve LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES Best of 1969-1984 5 1985- 7 Home/Away Format 1969-1984 2-3 1985- 2-3-2 Opening Games Location 1969-1985 AL East in odd years, AL West in even years; NL West in odd years, NL East in even years 1986-1997 AL West in odd years, AL East in even years; NL East in odd years, NL West in even years 1998- fixed site, based upon 2-3-2 format, with first two games and last two games going to the team seeded highest Final Game Location 1969- fixed site, based upon 2-3 or 2-3-2 format Start of Series 1969-1976 Both series' start on the Saturday following the end of regular season 1969-1971 - 1 day between conclusion of season and start of playoffs 1972 - 2 days 1973 - 5 days 1974 - 2 days 1975-1976 - 5 days 1977-1993 Series' start on staggered Tuesday/Wednesday following end of regular season on Sunday 1977-1983 - NL starts on Tuesday (& has off day) in odd years; starts on Wednesday (no off day) in even years AL starts on Tuesday (& has off day) in even years; starts on Wednesday (no off day) in odd years NOTE - 1980 & 1981 were exceptions (1980: NL started first despite even year, unknown reason; 1981: strike year / split-season rules) 1984 - both series' started on same day (Tuesday), unknown reason (ballpark availability?) 1985-86 - AL starts on Tuesday, NL starts on Wednesday 1987 - NL starts on Tuesday, AL starts on Wednesday 1988-?? - NL starts on Tuesday & AL starts on Wednesday in even years; AL starts on Tuesday and NL starts on Wednesday in odd years 1993-?? (depends on Division series' conclusion??) 1995-2004, 2006 following completion of division series', NL starts on Tuesday, AL starts on Wednesday in odd years; AL starts on Tuesday, NL starts on Wednesday in even years 2005 following completion of division series', NL starts on Tuesday, AL starts on Wednesday in even years; AL starts on Tuesday, NL starts on Wednesday in odd years 2007-2009 following completion of division series', NL starts on Thursday, AL starts on Friday 2010 following completion of division series', AL starts on Friday, NL starts on Saturday 2011-?? following completion of division series', AL starts on Saturday, NL starts on Sunday Off Days During Series 1969-1971 Monday travel day if east & west coast teams involved 1972-1974 Monday travel day if west-to-east coast travel involved 1975-1976 Monday travel day regardless of geography 1977-1983 Thursday travel day for series starting first (on Tuesday); no off day for series starting second (on Wednesday) 1984 AL travel day after game two; NL after game three (an oddity, along with both series' starting on same day - see above section) 1985-2006, 2010- fixed travel days after games two and five, based upon 2-3-2 format 2007-2009 fixed travel days after games two, four, and five, based upon 2-3-2 format DIVISION SERIES Best of 1994- 5 Home/Away Format 1994-1997, 2012 2-3 1998-2011, 2013- 2-2-1 Games Locations 1994-1997 rotation, with two of three division winners getting home field advantage (last three games at home), and the other division winner and the wild card not getting HFA 1998- two division winners with best records get home field advantage Determining Who Plays Who 1994-2011 wild card team plays top-seeded divisional champion unless both teams in same division, in which case the wild card team plays second-seeded division champion 2012- 2nd wild card introduced ????? Start of Series & off Days During Series See http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/suggestions-next-version-ootp/216807-grab-bag-o-suggestions.html#post3248572 TIEBREAKER PLAYOFF FORMATS Best of NL: thru 1968 3 AL: thru mid 1920's 3 AL: mid-1920's-1956 single game AL: 1957-1968 3 MLB: 1969- single game Format / Home Field Advantage NL: thru early 30's 1-1-TBD, first game site determined by lot or coin toss; third game site determined by NL & Board of Directors - could be at one of the participants' park (possibly determined by lot or coin toss, or geographical considerations) or at neutral park NL: by 1934-post war 1-2 or 1-1-1, depending upon geography and/or sites, possibly determined by lot or coin toss NL: post-war -1968 1-2, with sites determined by coin toss AL: ??-mid 1920's N-N-N, H-A-N, or H-A-coin toss, depending upon geography and possibly other factors AL: 1957-1968 1-2, with sites determined by coin toss MAKEUP GAMES thru 1950 postponed games must be made up before end of regular season; no regular season game could be played after scheduled end of regular season 1951- any postponed game having a bearing on a pennant race must be played even if it's after the scheduled end of the regular season 1998- ??? NOTE: had the Cubs made the post-season, adjusted LCS and WS schedules would likely have applied, if needed, to each LCS from 1975-85 and each WS from 1971-87 (day/night changes between each LCS may have been needed; WS h/a advantage may have been required to put midweek games in AL park, since mid-week games were required to be on at night, per TV contracts). See http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/suggestions-next-version-ootp/216807-grab-bag-o-suggestions.html#post3249138 Last edited by thehef; 04-28-2014 at 02:54 PM. Reason: updated LCS off days rules |
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