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Old 02-10-2016, 09:01 PM   #1
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9th inning errors

My teams (1871-1876 so far) commit more errors than tipsy Little Leaguers, but I can live with that.

Teams in this league often commit 9-10 errors a game (not counting PBs, WPs, and hit batsmen). I employ only good defensive players, if the ratings are to be trusted, but this happens rather often. Sometimes it is the other team blowing the game by errors.

What I find curious is how often I experience a 9th inning with three or four of those errors. I'm tempted to go through the game logs to see how errors are distributed -- but I wonder if anyone thinks the developers have tweaked the game so as to make the last inning more exciting.
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Old 02-10-2016, 09:13 PM   #2
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Confirmation bias. I've played enough to know that 3-error innings are common in all innings, not just the 9th.
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Old 02-10-2016, 09:55 PM   #3
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My teams (1871-1876 so far) commit more errors than tipsy Little Leaguers, but I can live with that.

Teams in this league often commit 9-10 errors a game (not counting PBs, WPs, and hit batsmen). I employ only good defensive players, if the ratings are to be trusted, but this happens rather often. Sometimes it is the other team blowing the game by errors.

What I find curious is how often I experience a 9th inning with three or four of those errors. I'm tempted to go through the game logs to see how errors are distributed -- but I wonder if anyone thinks the developers have tweaked the game so as to make the last inning more exciting.
Umm...You do realize that most of the good defensive players you're employing are good relative to the time you're playing in...when most of them played with no gloves. In 1871, the FPCT in the National Association (the only league going at the time) was .833. On average, teams were making 7.61 errors per game. Therefore, 9-10 errors in a game is not really out of the norm, and thus a chunk of errors towards the end of the game is not really that exceptional either. It is certainly within reasonable expectations for a league that had that many errors.

By 1876, in the National League, the FPCT was all the way up to .866 , and teams were still making an average of 6.01 errors per game. The game should probably come with a warning about 19th century baseball: Do not play it unless you are a very patient person and can put up with piles of errors, and epic comebacks, both for and against you.

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Old 02-10-2016, 10:21 PM   #4
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Umm...You do realize that most of the good defensive players you're employing are good relative to the time you're playing in...when most of them played with no gloves. In 1871, the FPCT in the National Association (the only league going at the time) was .833. On average, teams were making 7.61 errors per game. Therefore, 9-10 errors in a game is not really out of the norm, and thus a chunk of errors towards the end of the game is not really that exceptional either. It is certainly within reasonable expectations for a league that had that many errors.

By 1876, in the National League, the FPCT was all the way up to .866 , and teams were still making an average of 6.01 errors per game. The game should probably come with a warning about 19th century baseball: Do not play it unless you are a very patient person and can put up with piles of errors, and epic comebacks, both for and against you.
Yes, exactly, this is completely realistic and accurate.

In fact based on what the OP describes it seems to me that maybe OOTP is creating too few errors for players in this time frame, but certainly not too many.
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In OOTP 12? I had a game (1871ish) with approx 35 errors. It was 3-4 off of the all time MLB record. I can not find the MLB record right now but it was something like that.
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I am aware that the 1870s produced many errors, so my question was about distribution of errors by inning. Confirmation bias is probably the answer, since no one else reports seeing more errors in the 9th.
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