General Baseball Image Discussion

[dennis_keith]

Thanks to Ortforshort for the Phillies customs. I very much appreciate him creating the cards for players who there are no Topps or Bowman cards for and obscure guys who were only Phillies for a few games like Van Dusen, Kennedy, Mason, Command, Lipetri and Drake. Granny Hamner pictured as a pitcher is a hoot. I Also appreciate the new cards/photos of the two oldest living Phillies: Wally Westlake (96) and Solly Hemus (94).

[dennis_keith]

Ort: Can you do Chuck Harmon and Chico Fernandez as Phillies and Fernandez with Brooklyn & Maybe one of the recently deceased Bob Kuzava as a Phillie also? Thanks!

[ortforshort]

Originally Posted by dennis_keith

Ort: Can you do Chuck Harmon and Chico Fernandez as Phillies and Fernandez with Brooklyn & Maybe one of the recently deceased Bob Kuzava as a Phillie also? Thanks!

There was already a good color pic of Fernandez with the Phillies

[ortforshort]

Sundin was misspelled and Powis is a catcher

[Cusick]

I think the Bob Smith under Red Sox 02 is Catcher Robert Smith, who appeared on the 1936 Red Sox spring roster. The exemplar I have for that catcher is not very good, but it looks somewhat like him. It certainly is not pitcher Bob "Riverboat" Smith of the 1958 Red Sox (who is shown in Red Sox 01) or pitcher Robert G. Smith of the 1956 Red Sox.

[ortforshort]

Originally Posted by Cusick

I think the Bob Smith under Red Sox 02 is Catcher Robert Smith, who appeared on the 1936 Red Sox spring roster. The exemplar I have for that catcher is not very good, but it looks somewhat like him. It certainly is not pitcher Bob "Riverboat" Smith of the 1958 Red Sox (who is shown in Red Sox 01) or pitcher Robert G. Smith of the 1956 Red Sox.

These are the two Bob Smiths - different guys

[SPORTSMEM817]

Did these a few years back

[SPORTSMEM817]

Glad to see I am not the only one addicted to customs

[Cusick]

Originally Posted by ortforshort

These are the two Bob Smiths - different guys

Ort, I tried to explain that I understand that the two Bob Smiths are different guys. I'm not questioning Red Sox 01 Bob Smith. That's clearly Bob "Riverboat" Smith of the 1958 Red Sox. Instead, I think that Red Sox 02 Bob Smith is not Robert G. Smith of the 1956 Red Sox (and later the Pirates). Look at the comparison below with a straight-on shot of Robert G. Smith. Robert G. has a narrower and more elongated facial structure. Furthermore, his right ear sticks out farther than does that of the Bob Smith in your card. I've also attached my lousy shot of the 1936 spring roster catcher Robert Smith. There certainly isn't much detail, but the facial structure is much closer. Also, consider the wooden slats in the background of your photo. They appear to come from an earlier era.

[ortforshort]

Originally Posted by Cusick

Ort, I tried to explain that I understand that the two Bob Smiths are different guys. I'm not questioning Red Sox 01 Bob Smith. That's clearly Bob "Riverboat" Smith of the 1958 Red Sox. Instead, I think that Red Sox 02 Bob Smith is not Robert G. Smith of the 1956 Red Sox (and later the Pirates). Look at the comparison below with a straight-on shot of Robert G. Smith. Robert G. has a narrower and more elongated facial structure. Furthermore, his right ear sticks out farther than does that of the Bob Smith in your card. I've also attached my lousy shot of the 1936 spring roster catcher Robert Smith. There certainly isn't much detail, but the facial structure is much closer. Also, consider the wooden slats in the background of your photo. They appear to come from an earlier era.

Maybe you're right. Looks like he could be Bob G Smith to me, but, then again, where's a good forensic artist around when you need one?

[Rainmaker]

Originally Posted by SPORTSMEM817

Did these a few years back

I would kill for that original Umbach shot. Never seen it before!

[baseball-birthdays.com]

Here are two other looks at Robert Gilchrist Smith, one a different shot with Boston and another with the Tigers... to my eyes, the outlier is whoever it is on the '58 Topps card.

[FatJack]

Originally Posted by baseball-birthdays.com

Here are two other looks at Robert Gilchrist Smith, one a different shot with Boston and another with the Tigers... to my eyes, the outlier is whoever it is on the '58 Topps card.

As much as I suck at this game, I know my Mets. And it's dead obvious to me that the gent on the '58 Topps card is outfielder Bobby Gene Smith. Just sayin'.

[ortforshort]

Originally Posted by FatJack

As much as I suck at this game, I know my Mets. And it's dead obvious to me that the gent on the '58 Topps card is outfielder Bobby Gene Smith. Just sayin'.

Jack - Thanks for clearing this one up

[pirates60]

Great job on the cards! Would you happen to have any more pirates cards?Thanks.

[ortforshort]

Pirates 01

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Pirates 02

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Pirates 03

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Pirates 04

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Pirates 05