Sonny Liston Replay

[mightycombover]

This is my first universe, hopefully you all enjoy. I'm replaying the career of Sonny Liston, using the historically accurate opponents, fight cards, dates, and venues for all fights. Where Sonny's opponents did not exist in the database, I created the ratings to the best of my abilities. I've been playing this game for a while, but am still new in the ratings department. Nonetheless, as accurate as this sim usually is, I'm excited to see where he ends up... Thanks for reading.

-Randy

[mightycombover]

JUST ANNOUNCED:


Sonny Liston will make his Heavyweight debut on September 2, 1953 in his hometown of St. Louis, MO, where he will take on Don Smith (3-1, 3 KO) of Louisville, KY. The fight will be held at the St. Louis Arena, and will be on the undercard of a Henry 'Pappy' Gault main event. Gault's opponent is TBA.

[mightycombover]

9/2/53
St. Louis Arena
St. Louis, MO
USA

Official Card:
Henry 'Pappy' Gault (47-7-1, 12 KO) vs. Teddy Roberts (8-10, 3 KO) - 10 rds.
Ernie Durando (39-15-3, 28 KO) vs. Randy Sandy (13-1, 5 KO) - 10 rds.
Leroy Coleman (34-11, 15 KO) vs. Pennington Brown (13-9-6, 2 KO) - 6 rds.
Sonny Liston (Pro Debut) vs. Don Smith (3-1, 3KO) - 4 rds.
Sonny Jenkins (1-1, 1KO) vs. Jimmy Austin (Pro Debut) - 4 rds.

Sonny Liston (Pro Debut) vs. Don Smith (3-1, 3 KO)

Official weights:
Smith: 179 lbs.
Liston: 200 1/2 lbs.

In the second fight of tonight's card, Don Smith, 3-1 with 3 knockouts, will take on newcomer Sonny Liston, who will be making his professional debut. Scheduled for 4 rounds, this Heavyweight contest will be fought under Unified rules.
Don Smith, of Louisville, Kentucky is coming off 3 straight KO wins, and looks to keep his momentum. Weighing in at a mere 179 pounds for tonight's fight, he will give up quite a bit of size to the debuting Liston. Smith was said to have looked soft for this fight, with his training coming into question.
Sonny Liston is fighting in his home town, and hopes to start off on the right foot with a big win tonight. Coming in at 200 1/2 pounds, Liston was said to be in top shape, and towered over his opponent at the weigh-ins.

Details:
announcer is Bob Alexander, referee is Frank Garza, the bout will be scored by three judges: Alex Levin (United States), David Harris (United States) and George Kachulis (United States), this is not a title bout, the bout is scheduled for 4 rounds, three KD rule is not in effect, save by the bell is not in effect, only the referee can stop the fight, mandatory 8 count is not in effect, fight stopped due to an accidental head butt: Tech. Draw through 50%%/Scorecard after 50%%,
In the red corner: Sonny Liston - Conditioning: Top Condition
In the blue corner: Don Smith - Conditioning: Badly Overweight

Action:
Round 1
Time Commentary
0:00 The crowd is anticipating a good fight tonight as the bell sounds for Round 1.
0:16 Oh!!! Liston unleashed a crippling right hand to the head!
0:16 Smith looks like he might have been hurt by that punch!
0:40 * Liston just landed a short, clean uppercut that caught Smith flush. Smith dropped like he'd been shot.
0:42 Garza begins the count over Smith as Liston moves to a neutral corner..
0:42 1...
0:43 2...
0:44 3...
0:45 4...
0:46 5...
0:47 6...
0:48 The count reaches 7 as Smith is struggling to climb off of the deck.
0:49 8...
0:50 9...
0:51 10!
0:51 * That's a ten count! Smith is out cold here in round 1.

Fight Result
Bob Alexander has the call...
Ladies and Gentlemen! The time of the stoppage is 0:57 of round number 1. The winner by knockout is...
Sonny Liston!


Official Statistics
Categories Sonny Liston Don Smith
Knockdowns scored 1 0

Jabs / Round 2.00 0.00
Hooks / Round 4.00 0.00
Crosses / Round 4.00 0.00
Combinations / Round 1.00 0.00
Uppercuts / Round 2.00 0.00

Punches Landed / Round 13.00 0.00
Punches Missed / Round 0.00 0.00

Punching Accuracy 100.0% 1.$%

Total Number of Fouls 0 0

No cuts occured


Official Results: (historically accurate unless noted)

Henry 'Pappy' Gault def. Teddy Roberts PTS 10 10
Ernie Durando DRAW w/ Randy Sandy PTS 10 10
Leroy Coleman def. Pennington Brown PTS 6 6
Sonny Liston def. Don Smith TKO 1 4 --
(historically accurate result: Liston TKO Smith :33, round 1)
Sonny Jenkins def. Jimmy Austin KO 2

Recap:
In a great night of boxing action, we saw the debuting Jimmy Austin get knocked out in the second round of his fight with Sonny Jenkins. We also saw another debut, but this time we had a bit different outcome. Sonny Liston won his first professional fight in a mere 57 seconds of the very first round. His opponent, Don Smith, did not land a single punch.
We also saw a dominant decision victory from the veteran Leroy Coleman over Pennington Brown in a 6 round affair, as well as a very close 10 round draw between Ernie Durando and Randy Sandy. In the main event, "Pappy" Gault outworked Teddy Roberts in a decision win, picking up the 48th win of his career.


Stay tuned for word of Liston's next bout!

[Chadness]

If I may suggest something... could you put up a "What Really Happened" section under results for comparison?

[mightycombover]

Sure thing, thanks for the suggestion. I'm only simming the Liston fights, and using actual results for the others. Ive edited it a bit to show the comparison.

[algreen90]

Good stuff mightycombover I've really been watching and reading a lot about Liston of late seeing as he is just taking off in my universe. Keep up the good work.

[bear]

Originally Posted by mightycombover

Sure thing, thanks for the suggestion. I'm only simming the Liston fights, and using actual results for the others. Ive edited it a bit to show the comparison.

Welcome aboard mightycombover. This is a nice start that I'll be following.

Would you be willing to post anyfighter not in the DB that you've created for this uni? I'm probably not alone in wanting to see these guys.

bear

[mightycombover]

Sure, no problem at all. I need to figure out where the tcbx files are located, but Ill upload the pack once Im done. Thanks for reading, I really enjoy this game.

[Infinity]

Originally Posted by bear

I'm probably not alone in wanting to see these guys.

bear

He's not.....

Welcome to our little family of boxing nuts!

[mightycombover]

BREAKING NEWS:

The trainers of highly touted young fighter Sonny Liston have announced that on the heels of his devastating first round knockout win last night, they have already secured another bout for him in just two short weeks!

JUST CONFIRMED!

September 17, 1953 - mark it on your calendar!

At Kiel Auditorium in St. Louis, Missouri, Sonny Liston (1-0, 1 KO) will step into his hometown ring against the much more experienced Ponce de Leon (10-18-4, 6 KO). De Leon's record may not be stellar, but he has fought a very high level of talent, and should give Liston a good idea of where he stands with a larger man that knows his way around a boxing ring. The rest of the card will be announced soon.

[bear]

Originally Posted by mightycombover

Sure, no problem at all. I need to figure out where the tcbx files are located, but Ill upload the pack once Im done. Thanks for reading, I really enjoy this game.

On the fighter's page there is a menu bar of the right hand side. You can export the the tcbx files to a folder of your choice and save them there.
I do this all of the time when I'm working on fighter files because I'm paranoid about losing unsaved data. I'll save the file through various stages of completion and eventually post the finished work in the mods section.

bear

[mightycombover]

Originally Posted by Infinity

He's not.....

Welcome to our little family of boxing nuts!

Thanks for the welcoming!

Originally Posted by bear

On the fighter's page there is a menu bar of the right hand side. You can export the the tcbx files to a folder of your choice and save them there.

I do this all of the time when I'm working on fighter files because I'm paranoid about losing unsaved data. I'll save the file through various stages of completion and eventually post the finished work in the mods section.



bear

Wow, so simple. Gotta love that. Thanks. I'll upload the career replay pack along with the venues I created once I'm finished.

[mightycombover]

THIS JUST IN:

A report has just come in from the weigh-ins for tomorrow night's Liston-De Leon fight, that both men look great, and appear to be in tip-top shape; De Leon weighed in at 215 lbs., and Liston came in at an even 200 lbs. Both men were respectful, but short in an intense staredown.
Also announced was the finalized card, as there were many last minute shifts to the lineup during this last week. Scheduled for tomorrow night: (subject to change)


Bob Murphy (65-8-3, 56 KO) vs. Jimmy Welch (61-18-9, 13 KO) - 10 rds.
Sonny Liston (1-0, 1 KO) vs. Ponce de Leon (10-18-4, 6 KO) - 4 rds.
Foneda Cox (Pro Debut) vs. Charley Roberts (0-3) - 4 rds.
Jesse Brown (6-5, 3 KO) vs. Nate James (1-2-1, 1 KO) - 4 rds.
Sonny Jenkins (2-1, 2 KO) vs. Bobby Wilson (Pro Debut) - 4 rds.

It should be a good one!

[Ian Lord]

Good stuff. Going to enjoy following Liston's career.

[mightycombover]

9/17/53
Kiel Auditorium
St. Louis, MO
USA

Official Card:

Bob Murphy (65-8-3, 56 KO) vs. Jimmy Welch (61-18-9, 13 KO) - 10 rds.
Sonny Liston (1-0, 1 KO) vs. Ponce de Leon (10-18-4, 6 KO) - 4 rds.
Foneda Cox (Pro Debut) vs. Charley Roberts (0-3) - 4 rds.
Jesse Brown (6-5, 3 KO) vs. Nate James (1-2-1, 1 KO) - 4 rds.
Sonny Jenkins (2-1, 2 KO) vs. Bobby Wilson (Pro Debut) - 4 rds.


Sonny Liston (1-0, 1 KO) vs. Ponce de Leon (10-18-4, 6 KO) - 4 rds.

In the co-main event of the evening, Heavyweight prospect Sonny Liston will step up in competition, and take on the experienced and durable Ponce de Leon. Both Liston and de Leon were said to be in tip-top shape, weighing in at 200 and 215, respectively.
De Leon, who is coming off a 4 round decision win over Dave Ragus that snapped a five fight losing streak, looks to use his 32 professional fights to his advantage, showing Liston how a veteran does it.
On the other side of the coin, Sonny Liston looks like a man possessed. His 57 second disposal of Don Smith was disturbing to say the least, and if the same man shows up tonight... We could be in for some serious action.

Details:

Fight info: Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO, United States, 1953-09-17, announcer is Lupe Contreras, referee is Richard Steele, the bout will be scored by three judges: Albert Rubenstein (United States), Lahcen Oumghar (Netherlands) and Bill Recht (United States), this is not a title bout, the bout is scheduled for 4 rounds, three KD rule is not in effect, save by the bell is not in effect, only the referee can stop the fight, mandatory 8 count is not in effect, fight stopped due to an accidental head butt: Tech. Draw through 50%%/Scorecard after 50%%
In the red corner: Sonny Liston - Conditioning: Top Condition
In the blue corner: Ponce DeLeon - Conditioning: Top Condition

Action:

Round 1
Time Commentary Points
0:00 The crowd's been waiting for the start of this fight but they don't have to wait any longer as Round 1 begins.
0:19 Liston just misses with a huge shot as DeLeon chooses the perfect time to suddenly backpedal.
0:22 DeLeon fires the jab. It finds its target.
0:31 Liston follows the jab with a with hard overhand right to the jaw.
0:42 Sonny Liston's jab falls short, but the cross gets in behind it.
01:17 Liston lands a hard jab!
01:17 That shot landed square and DeLeon felt it, he's in a world of hurt!
01:30 Liston is clinching... DeLeon is trying to free his gloves... They are under Liston's arms...
01:41 Now they break clean.
01:50 Liston is just missing by a hair with his punches.
02:02 The action slows for the moment.
02:07 DeLeon retreats into a neutral corner.
02:12 Liston lands a solid hook!
02:12 Ponce DeLeon is gasping for air!!
02:25 Hard to choose in that exchange as Liston and DeLeon go blow for blow.
02:35 Liston lets his hands go inside and scores with at least two hard shots to DeLeon's ribs.
02:44 As high as DeLeon is holding his gloves he is leaving his body wide open to a damaging body punch if Liston takes advantage of it. 18:4
02:52 Oh!!! Sonny Liston unleashed a crippling right hand to the head! 23:4
02:52 DeLeon's eye's are glazed over after that shot, he is definitely hurt! 23:4
03:00 Sonny Liston muscles his way inside. 23:4
03:00 There's the bell. Round 1 comes to an end. 24:4
Round 2
Time Commentary Points
0:00 Liston and DeLeon square off as the bell sounds to start the action for Round 2. 0:0
0:12 Liston lands a solid hook! 4:0
0:12 Ponce DeLeon seems to be in big trouble after that blow... 4:0
0:32 Liston just can't find the range with that uppercut. 4:0
0:39 DeLeon lands a strong cross! 4:4
0:39 Liston is going to need to regroup after that blow... 4:4
0:54 DeLeon's corner is urging him on. They're really vocal tonight. 4:4
01:02 DeLeon blasts home a right hand. He telegraphed it but he got away with one there. 4:7
01:14 DeLeon slides into a neutral corner... 4:7
01:14 Liston's jab rips into DeLeon. 7:7
01:31 Liston fires a short right cross that lands square. That was a nice punch. 10:7
01:40 Liston is trapped in DeLeon's corner... 10:7
01:45 DeLeon is moving laterally and not straight back, which is exactly what he should be doing. 10:7
01:58 Liston scores with a piston-like jab. 13:7
02:06 DeLeon doesn't have to look for Liston this round. He is right there in front of him. 13:7
02:10 The action is back at ring center. 13:7
02:10 DeLeon lands a solid shot to the head and follows up with a better one! He can be very effective when he remembers to throw his punches in combinations. 13:9
02:25 DeLeon backs into a neutral corner. 13:9
02:30 Liston dips as if to launch a body shot, then goes upstairs with a quick hook to the head that puts DeLeon back on his heels! 18:9
02:30 DeLeon is reeling after that shot! 18:9
02:44 It's a sweet uppercut by Liston! He snapped DeLeon's head straight back with that punch! 23:9
02:44 Hide the women and children, that punch nearly took DeLeon's head off and he is in a world of trouble!! 23:9
02:49 This round has been badly one-sided and Ponce DeLeon is in serious trouble. This bout could soon be over. 23:9
02:58 That hook from Liston snapped Ponce DeLeon's head back violently! 27:9
02:58 What a devastating shot, DeLeon looks like he is out on his feet, he has no idea where he is! 27:9
03:00 The crowd shows their appreciation of the efforts of both fighters, as the two warriors make their way to their respective corners. 27:11
Round 3
Time Commentary Points
0:00 Here come the fighters to ring center... 0:0
0:13 Liston pushes DeLeon then steps away from him. 0:0
0:18 Liston got some great advice from Eddie Inabagsky between rounds, let's see if he puts it to use here in round 3. 0:0
0:22 Liston lands a smashing cross! 4:0
0:22 DeLeon is favoring his ribs, he's hurt!! 4:0
0:35 DeLeon retreats into his own corner... 4:0
0:39 Liston drops his shoulder as if to throw a right, then quickly rips a quick left hook to the body. 8:0
0:39 DeLeon is suddenly in trouble! 8:0
0:44 Ponce DeLeon is running out of gas... 8:0
0:53 Liston and DeLeon are in a clinch, Steele hollers at them to break and start fighting. 8:0
0:58 Steele separates the two... 8:0
01:02 The action is at ring center. 8:0
01:02 Liston scores with consecutive blows to the body of DeLeon. 10:0
01:22 DeLeon buries a hook to the body of Liston. 10:3
01:31 DeLeon retreats into the far corner. 10:3
01:35 Liston lands a vicious cross! 14:3
01:35 DeLeon's hurt, that blow stopped him cold! 14:3
01:48 DeLeon backs into his own corner... 14:3
01:53 There's a straight right by Liston! 18:3
01:53 DeLeon is suddenly in trouble! 18:3
01:57 Steele makes a move toward DeLeon, who's getting hit with almost every punch thrown his way. Steele should stop this fight before DeLeon gets hurt. 18:3
01:57 It doesn't look like DeLeon has much left at all. 18:3
02:07 Liston drops the right hand flush on DeLeon's chin! 23:3
02:07 DeLeon looks hurt... He's stumbling backward! 23:3
02:11 * And Steele throws himself between the fighters! It's over! This fight ends at 02:12 of the 3rd round, your winner by TKO...Liston!!! 23:3

Fight Result

Here's Lupe Contreras with the call...
Ladies and Gentlemen! The winner by technical knockout at the 02:12 mark in Round 3 is...
Sonny Liston!

Official Score Cards
Albert Rubenstein Round Total
United States 1 2 3 4
Sonny Liston 10 10 20
Ponce DeLeon 9 9 18
Lahcen Oumghar Round Total
Netherlands 1 2 3 4
Sonny Liston 10 10 20
Ponce DeLeon 9 9 18
Bill Recht Round Total
United States 1 2 3 4
Sonny Liston 10 10 20
Ponce DeLeon 9 9 18


Official Statistics

Categories Sonny Liston Ponce DeLeon
Knockdowns scored 0 0

Jabs / Round 10.67 2.00
Hooks / Round 8.33 2.00
Crosses / Round 13.00 0.33
Combinations / Round 5.33 5.67
Uppercuts / Round 6.00 3.33

Punches Landed / Round 43.33 13.33
Punches Missed / Round 20.00 0.00

Punching Accuracy 68.4% 100.0%

Total Number of Fouls 0 0

No cuts occured


OFFICIAL RESULTS:

Jimmy Welch W Bob Murphy UD 10 10
Sonny Liston W Ponce de Leon TKO 3 4
*(note: actual historically accurate result: Liston W De Leon PTS 4 4)
Foneda Cox W Charley Roberts PTS 4 4
Jesse Brown W Nate James PTS 4 4
*(note: In "real life", this was James' final fight.)
Sonny Jenkins W Bobby Wilson KO 2


RECAP:

In a night full of young fighters, we saw Sonny Jenkins get his second straight KO victory over the debuting Bobby Wilson. We also saw Jesse Brown win a decision over Nate James, as well as Foneda Cox defeating Charley Roberts by decision.
Sonny Liston continued to roll by knocking out Ponce De Leon, and in our main event, we saw two men with a combined total of over 160 pro fights worth of experience in Bob Murphy and Jimmy Welch go at it for 10 rounds, with Welch getting the win.
A great night of boxing! Goodnight from Kiel Auditorium in St. Louis, Missouri!

[mightycombover]

JUST SIGNED:

We have just heard that the young up and coming Heavyweight Sonny Liston has signed to fight his third professional bout.

November 21, 1953 at the Kiel Auditorium in St. Louis, Missouri, Sonny Liston (2-0, 2 KO) will face another young prospect in Memphis, Tennessee's own Bennie Thomas (5-1, 1 KO) in a 6 round bout.

Thomas is coming off a close decision loss, and looks to get back on track against the heavy-handed Liston. When asked what the training camp of Sonny Liston thought of Bennie Thomas, they simply replied, "Who?"
We will see soon enough what Thomas brings to the table. Stay tuned for more information on the rest of the card as it becomes available.

[Jersey-Jim]

Sonny Liston has to be most fascinating of all the Heavyweight Champs. There is more controversy about his life, career and organized crime's manuevering of his career, is wish they'd finally get that movie they've been making about his life into the theaters.

Welcome to the Inside the Ropes Section .

[mightycombover]

Yeah, Id love to see a well done movie about his life. It would be interesting to say the last. Ive always wondered what he couldve done had he turned his life around.

[mightycombover]

REPORTING FROM KIEL AUDITORIUM

We are here at the weigh-ins for tomorrow night's event at Kiel Auditorium, here in the beautiful city of St. Louis, Missouri. We just watched Sonny Liston and Bennie Thomas step on the scales, and both appeared to be in great shape. Liston weighed in at a fit 198 pounds, while Thomas came in at just 184 pounds.
Now, Liston's camp assures us that he is training hard, and by the looks of it, they aren't lying. However, looks can be deceiving. His opponent, Bennie Thomas looks to be feeling fine, but I've been told otherwise. Rumor has it, he pushed a little too hard this last week trying to prepare for the power of Liston, and as a result is a bit drained. At 5-1, he is definitely Liston's biggest test to date, and we will see tomorrow night if the rumors are true! It should be a barn-burner!

Here is tomorrow's official card:

Bobby Bickle (16-1, 10 KO) vs. Jimmy Pitts (Pro Debut) - 10 rds.
Pierre Langlois (62-14-4, 13 KO) vs. Jesse Turner (33-12-5, 20 KO) - 10 rds.
Sonny Liston (2-0, 2 KO) vs. Bennie Thomas (5-1, 1 KO) - 6 rds.
Joey Maldonado (4-5, 1 KO) vs. Milton Scott (11-10-4, 6 KO) - 4 rds.

Tickets are still available, don't miss the action!!

[professordp]

I'm interested in your uni and will be following it all the way through.

As you know I'm running my own uni for this period---but in mine Sonny's in jail! So what you are doing is the missing piece of the picture--Although Sonny will be up for parole next year and still could appear in my uni.

You might want to sheck out the Mods section and take a look at the "Ratings of the Day Council". There are a number of revisions/alternate ratings of heavyweights (including Liston) that make a lot more sense, at least to me, than those that come from the "official" TBCB data base.

Take a look at them, and I think you'll like what you see. I've been using them for all of my sim fights in my "Partial Eclipse of the Sonny" uni.

Good luck with this project and welcome to the community!