iOOTP 2012

ThePotato · 10-11-2011, 07:49 PM

So you guys have been talking loosely about an iOOTP 2012 for quite some time. I spent money on 2011 and have been enjoying it a lot. Will iOOTP be a brand new app, or will it just be an app update? Because I'm not spending $5 a year for more or less the same game with new rosters.

CD1083 · 10-11-2011, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePotato

So you guys have been talking loosely about an iOOTP 2012 for quite some time. I spent money on 2011 and have been enjoying it a lot. Will iOOTP be a brand new app, or will it just be an app update? Because I'm not spending $5 a year for more or less the same game with new rosters.

Wow...less than 50 cents a month for a game that you can play whenever you want and you're complaining?

Back in my day we shoved quarters in arcade machines by the pocket full just so that we could play for the afternoon and we were happy to do so.

Kids these days.

JayWigley · 10-11-2011, 10:39 PM

Given the new iPhone's processor capabilities, I'd love to see iOOTP 2012 remove the old 3G support and require the 3GS or above, thereby incorporating additional features from the desktop OOTP.

I'd love to see more options for league set-up (many more configurations of teams and leagues and divisions), optional financials for historical leagues (or any league really), additional in-game maneuverings via incorporation of pitch-by-pitch during games (optional on a per-batter basis), and so forth.

I'd gladly pay another $5 for that!

ThePotato · 10-11-2011, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JayWigley

Given the new iPhone's processor capabilities, I'd love to see iOOTP 2012 remove the old 3G support and require the 3GS or above, thereby incorporating additional features from the desktop OOTP.

I'd love to see more options for league set-up (many more configurations of teams and leagues and divisions), optional financials for historical leagues (or any league really), additional in-game maneuverings via incorporation of pitch-by-pitch during games (optional on a per-batter basis), and so forth.

I'd gladly pay another $5 for that!

Appealing only to the new 4S audience would leave out every other customer they have, which are the vast majority. If they do incorporate enough desktop OOTP features to make it worth it, I'd consider it. I just hope they won't pull a Madden, if you know what I mean...

ThePotato · 10-11-2011, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Chase Davis

Wow...less than 50 cents a month for a game that you can play whenever you want and you're complaining?

Back in my day we shoved quarters in arcade machines by the pocket full just so that we could play for the afternoon and we were happy to do so.

Kids these days.

Wow, way to be degrading... I wouldn't mind paying more if it has tons of new features worth buying, but if it's just a roster update I wouldn't see any need to pay for it again.

rudel.dietrich · 10-12-2011, 12:49 AM

The biggest development hurdle Sebastian mentioned during development was not processor speed but device memory.

Also I recall that during the development cycle the game was not developed for the 3G even in mind. I was found out that near the end of the development cycle that after some play testing it was found that the game could run on 3G devices, albeit not as well.

The new 4GS is still going to have 512 MB of Ram like the 4G. So I don't see a point in dropping support for 3G or 3GS devices when there is still the memory hurdle that will be around for another full year or more.

To give my thoughts on where the game should head I would mainly like to see new customization options open up. i.e. new financial options, a player editor, a player creation option, a stadium editor and creator and the ability to modify league totals, creation modifiers and change the starting year.

I would also like to see iOOTP become more independent of it's computer cousin and become more of it's own game.
I would be thrilled to the point of peeing myself if Sebastian would incorporate some RPG elements into the game from the ITP series.
i.e. you create a player and get yourself drafted and guide your player through the minors and into the big leagues. Negotiate contracts, demand trades, buy equipment, date women, buy things and begin to influence your teammates and coach as you grow older and have more years in the bigs.
I think that would fit perfectly with a quick playing portable version of the game and establish iOOTP as it's own independent game.

The GM and managerial aspects of the game would still be there. I think this would open up a third way to play, as a single player focused sim RPG.

It has been 7 years and Markus has done nothing with the ITP property. Maybe it can be revived and worked into iOOTP 12.

Just my thoughts on the matter.

And I must say that I bought the game on release day and never played it as much as I thought I would.
But now that it is a iPad native game it has breathed new life into the game. I play it a whole lot more than I did and I am finally getting my use out of the game.
The universal update was to me pretty much like getting iOOTP 11.5
It was almost as good as a brand new version.

I am excited to see where this series is headed. last year it stayed in the App stores top 100 games for a few weeks so I think it has some good sales. I think this series has staying power.
If not this upcoming year, then in the future it can expand to other mobile OS's and expand it's reach out even more.

cody8200 · 10-12-2011, 08:59 AM

Most iOS sports games get released as a full product every year for full price. I say this as someone who has personally reviewed several hundred games. I am positive the improvements made won't be a simple roster update and will be well worth a few bucks.

hluraven · 10-12-2011, 10:23 AM

One of the best value apps I have ever seen and I would be very happy to pay the same again even if it was only a roster update. The fact that it will be more than that just makes it even better.

sfnate · 10-12-2011, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hluraven

One of the best value apps I have ever seen and I would be very happy to pay the same again even if it was only a roster update. The fact that it will be more than that just makes it even better.

Ditto. 5 bucks a year for a quality game like this is--to be quite blunt--a steal.

However, I fully expect that future releases will continue to evolve and improve the game in the same way the full PC/Mac version has risen to the top of the baseball simulation pyramid.

I suspect that anyone who supports the iOOTP franchise will be more than happy to make modest yearly contributions to ensure that the developers have enough $ to justify the time spent improving the game.

CD1083 · 10-12-2011, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePotato

Wow, way to be degrading... I wouldn't mind paying more if it has tons of new features worth buying, but if it's just a roster update I wouldn't see any need to pay for it again.

Settle down there Bat Boy. I'm just ribbing you.

thegame_45 · 10-12-2011, 10:14 PM

If there was a way to import the saved game you have right now then I would upgrade. If not probably not

Supernovae · 10-13-2011, 08:42 AM

I can't recall, in all my years of playing OOTP, one single version where Markus (and team) designed the game with minimal enhancements and updated rosters (like EA's Madden is fond of doing.) It doesn't seem like Markus' style to be lax in developing OOTP and its' products.

IMO, I think it should be a stand-alone app with as many ported (or new) features as possible.

I was one of the (hopefully) many who tried, paid and played ITP. I would love to see that somehow incorporated in iOOTP12, if possible. Even taking a player, guiding him through his major-league career and into a hitting or pitching coach/manager/GM position provided they open up.

Just some ramblings, but I would be happy the 4.99 again for iOOTP12. I also thought it was a steal having thought it was worth 9.99-19.99 for the app.

JayWigley · 10-13-2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePotato

Appealing only to the new 4S audience would leave out every other customer they have, which are the vast majority. If they do incorporate enough desktop OOTP features to make it worth it, I'd consider it. I just hope they won't pull a Madden, if you know what I mean...

I wasn't suggesting developing iOOTP 12 for ONLY the 4S, I was suggesting dropping support for the oldest model (3G) and relying on the faster processor and extra RAM that came with the iPhone 4 (not sure about the 3GS) to make additional features worthwhile.

Walsh06 · 10-13-2011, 01:44 PM

I paid for the upgrade from FM2010 to 2011 and I still was delighted with it. So even if iOOTP just improves a few areas and adds some features Id be happy to buy it. "if it aint broke dont fix it" doesnt even apply here. "If its already amazing, keep it that way" is more appropriate.

Husky51 · 10-13-2011, 03:32 PM

I am good with paying the $5 bucks or whatever it is for the new season and upgrades to the game, as long as I can keep my current replays going and don't have to rebuy the legacy seasons I purchased.

revcarte · 10-13-2011, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePotato

So you guys have been talking loosely about an iOOTP 2012 for quite some time. I spent money on 2011 and have been enjoying it a lot. Will iOOTP be a brand new app, or will it just be an app update? Because I'm not spending $5 a year for more or less the same game with new rosters.

The Playstation 3 crowd and the Xbox crowd pay $60 a year for basically new rosters. $5 is a real bargain for a game of this quality. This game could have sold for $30 or more. I appreciate the fact that this company is not obsessed with greed.

Pike · 10-18-2011, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePotato

So you guys have been talking loosely about an iOOTP 2012 for quite some time. I spent money on 2011 and have been enjoying it a lot. Will iOOTP be a brand new app, or will it just be an app update? Because I'm not spending $5 a year for more or less the same game with new rosters.

What a brat way of putting things. It's worth $5 a year (for crying out loud that's less than a meal at Mickey D's!!!!) to keep the guys developing this great product.

Seriously can't believe how asinine the OP was.

omgimasian · 11-12-2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JayWigley

I wasn't suggesting developing iOOTP 12 for ONLY the 4S, I was suggesting dropping support for the oldest model (3G) and relying on the faster processor and extra RAM that came with the iPhone 4 (not sure about the 3GS) to make additional features worthwhile.

You do realize a good amount of people still use 3G right? That's still the low-end standard for apps. It'll be better for people who do have an iPhone 4 or 4s, but worse for OOTP.

magicspeedo · 11-16-2011, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pike

It's worth $5 a year (for crying out loud that's less than a meal at Mickey D's!!!!

dang, how much you eat? Micky D's only costs me $3 plus a few cents!

McGuiser · 02-28-2012, 10:20 PM

Fast food is bad for you. Strategy games are good for you (mental acuity, and staving off Alzheimer's).

Spending fast-food money on iOOTP instead is beneficial even if you never play the game. Same for beer money, now that I think about it.

10-11-2011, 07:49 PM	#1
ThePotato Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 36	iOOTP 2012 So you guys have been talking loosely about an iOOTP 2012 for quite some time. I spent money on 2011 and have been enjoying it a lot. Will iOOTP be a brand new app, or will it just be an app update? Because I'm not spending $5 a year for more or less the same game with new rosters.

10-12-2011, 08:59 AM	#7
cody8200 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,431	Most iOS sports games get released as a full product every year for full price. I say this as someone who has personally reviewed several hundred games. I am positive the improvements made won't be a simple roster update and will be well worth a few bucks. __________________ Web Design and Digital Marketing Agency - Sharp Guys Web Design - Twitter: @sharpguysweb

02-28-2012, 10:20 PM	#20
McGuiser Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 363	$5 Fast food is bad for you. Strategy games are good for you (mental acuity, and staving off Alzheimer's). Spending fast-food money on iOOTP instead is beneficial even if you never play the game. Same for beer money, now that I think about it.

10-11-2011, 10:39 PM	#3
JayWigley Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 129	Given the new iPhone's processor capabilities, I'd love to see iOOTP 2012 remove the old 3G support and require the 3GS or above, thereby incorporating additional features from the desktop OOTP. I'd love to see more options for league set-up (many more configurations of teams and leagues and divisions), optional financials for historical leagues (or any league really), additional in-game maneuverings via incorporation of pitch-by-pitch during games (optional on a per-batter basis), and so forth. I'd gladly pay another $5 for that!

10-12-2011, 12:49 AM	#6
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	The biggest development hurdle Sebastian mentioned during development was not processor speed but device memory. Also I recall that during the development cycle the game was not developed for the 3G even in mind. I was found out that near the end of the development cycle that after some play testing it was found that the game could run on 3G devices, albeit not as well. The new 4GS is still going to have 512 MB of Ram like the 4G. So I don't see a point in dropping support for 3G or 3GS devices when there is still the memory hurdle that will be around for another full year or more. To give my thoughts on where the game should head I would mainly like to see new customization options open up. i.e. new financial options, a player editor, a player creation option, a stadium editor and creator and the ability to modify league totals, creation modifiers and change the starting year. I would also like to see iOOTP become more independent of it's computer cousin and become more of it's own game. I would be thrilled to the point of peeing myself if Sebastian would incorporate some RPG elements into the game from the ITP series. i.e. you create a player and get yourself drafted and guide your player through the minors and into the big leagues. Negotiate contracts, demand trades, buy equipment, date women, buy things and begin to influence your teammates and coach as you grow older and have more years in the bigs. I think that would fit perfectly with a quick playing portable version of the game and establish iOOTP as it's own independent game. The GM and managerial aspects of the game would still be there. I think this would open up a third way to play, as a single player focused sim RPG. It has been 7 years and Markus has done nothing with the ITP property. Maybe it can be revived and worked into iOOTP 12. Just my thoughts on the matter. And I must say that I bought the game on release day and never played it as much as I thought I would. But now that it is a iPad native game it has breathed new life into the game. I play it a whole lot more than I did and I am finally getting my use out of the game. The universal update was to me pretty much like getting iOOTP 11.5 It was almost as good as a brand new version. I am excited to see where this series is headed. last year it stayed in the App stores top 100 games for a few weeks so I think it has some good sales. I think this series has staying power. If not this upcoming year, then in the future it can expand to other mobile OS's and expand it's reach out even more.

10-12-2011, 10:23 AM	#8
hluraven Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: London, England Posts: 355	One of the best value apps I have ever seen and I would be very happy to pay the same again even if it was only a roster update. The fact that it will be more than that just makes it even better.

10-12-2011, 10:14 PM	#11
thegame_45 Bat Boy Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 11	If there was a way to import the saved game you have right now then I would upgrade. If not probably not

10-13-2011, 08:42 AM	#12
Supernovae Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 160	I can't recall, in all my years of playing OOTP, one single version where Markus (and team) designed the game with minimal enhancements and updated rosters (like EA's Madden is fond of doing.) It doesn't seem like Markus' style to be lax in developing OOTP and its' products. IMO, I think it should be a stand-alone app with as many ported (or new) features as possible. I was one of the (hopefully) many who tried, paid and played ITP. I would love to see that somehow incorporated in iOOTP12, if possible. Even taking a player, guiding him through his major-league career and into a hitting or pitching coach/manager/GM position provided they open up. Just some ramblings, but I would be happy the 4.99 again for iOOTP12. I also thought it was a steal having thought it was worth 9.99-19.99 for the app.

10-13-2011, 01:44 PM	#14
Walsh06 All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 545	I paid for the upgrade from FM2010 to 2011 and I still was delighted with it. So even if iOOTP just improves a few areas and adds some features Id be happy to buy it. "if it aint broke dont fix it" doesnt even apply here. "If its already amazing, keep it that way" is more appropriate.

10-13-2011, 03:32 PM	#15
Husky51 Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 198	I am good with paying the $5 bucks or whatever it is for the new season and upgrades to the game, as long as I can keep my current replays going and don't have to rebuy the legacy seasons I purchased.