Collection Missions explained, launches June 17! - Page 7

Westheim · 06-18-2019, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by comedian2019

I got one and after a few games he is performing great. He is just rated a 70.. but since he is a SE does he perform better than non SE players?

The overall rating on the card still means squid. The actual ratings determine a card's performance.

Germaniac · 06-24-2019, 02:39 AM

I completed the Milwaukee Brewers Live Card collection and got the Special Edition Robin Yount card.

I got the Robin Yount Peak card for a nice price, so I sold the Special Edition card.

However, all the cards I obtained for the Mission Collction are still locked on my team, even though I don't own the Special Edition card anymore.

As far as I'm concerned all cards should be unlocked once the "reward card" has been sold.

LansdowneSt · 06-24-2019, 08:49 AM

The locking is part of the price paid to get the card, not the price paid to possess a card... while you don’t own the SE card, you have the PP it sold for. Not much difference.

dkgo · 06-24-2019, 09:11 AM

Yeah. Otherwise you would just be able to resell all the component cards and have the PP value of the reward card as pure profit. This would completely crater the market

Germaniac · 06-24-2019, 02:06 PM

This doesn't make sense to me

The SE card should be the reward for collecting all these cards necessary ...

I really thought that I'd have fun completing several Collection Missions - to me the fun is collecting the cards and eventually get the reward for it

But the way it apparently is handled this was my first and last Collection Mission ... I have no interest being handcuffed by having dozens of cards worth tens and hundreds thousand PP's locked on my roster.

Too bad, this could (should?) have been done much better.

acclaim99 · 06-24-2019, 02:11 PM

It's done fine, the price to unlock the SE card is locking in the others.

If it bothers you that much, you can still quick sell locked cards.

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Originally Posted by Germaniac

This doesn't make sense to me

The SE card should be the reward for collecting all these cards necessary ...

I really thought that I'd have fun completing several Collection Missions - to me the fun is collecting the cards and eventually get the reward for it

But the way it apparently is handled this was my first and last Collection Mission ... I have no interest being handcuffed by having dozens of cards worth tens and hundreds thousand PP's locked on my roster.

Too bad, this could (should?) have been done much better.

dkgo · 06-24-2019, 02:24 PM

huh? no you can't

maybe the balance of the requirements vs quality of the reward is off a bit (most aren't good enough for people to consider doing), but this is obviously the right way to do it.

By comparison, in ultimate team when you complete a squad challenge the cards you submit disappear entirely AND the reward card cannot be sold for coins later.

acclaim99 · 06-24-2019, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dkgo

huh? no you can't

Sure you can - I just did it.

Check the radial dial button thing on the left of the player name, then quick sell tagged cards.

acclaim99 · 06-24-2019, 02:28 PM

Uh-oh, was it not supposed to be like that?

*rushes to quick sell all locked cards*

dkgo · 06-24-2019, 02:30 PM

That is a pretty big loophole if true. lol

acclaim99 · 06-24-2019, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dkgo

That is a pretty big loophole if true. lol

It's just like The Show on ps4. When you lock a card in, you can't put it up for sale, but you can still quick sell them.

dkgo · 06-24-2019, 02:34 PM

The fact that you have to go from the left column circle select and the regular quick sell button is gone makes me think that wasn't supposed to happen. I might actually do a couple of these now, it lowers the price of all the live collections with random garbage diamonds by thousands of points.

acclaim99 · 06-24-2019, 02:41 PM

Yeah I dont think you're supposed to be allowed to do that... otherwise the quick sell on the right hand side wouldn't be grayed out.

acclaim99 · 06-24-2019, 02:42 PM

Wait
I don't think its working now after all. You get the pop up about it being sold for the amount, but it doesn't get added after all.

sorry

Matt Arnold · 06-24-2019, 02:43 PM

You shouldn't be able to quick-sell locked cards. You can select a list of tagged cards to sell, but it will skip any locked cards when it both tells you the price and actually processes the sales.

*ie. I select players A, B, C, and D to sell. If players A and B are locked, the popup will say, "do you want to sell 2 cards for 10 PP?", ignoring A and B

acclaim99 · 06-24-2019, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

You shouldn't be able to quick-sell locked cards. You can select a list of tagged cards to sell, but it will skip any locked cards when it both tells you the price and actually processes the sales.

*ie. I select players A, B, C, and D to sell. If players A and B are locked, the popup will say, "do you want to sell 2 cards for 10 PP?", ignoring A and B

I guess that's what it was doing. Then when I tried just quick selling 1 locked card, i got the pop up about the selling of it for 5 pp, hit ok, but my total doesn't increase.

Dam, got fooled.

You should be able to quicksell them, and not list them in auction. Our inventory will be flooded with crap now, and like I said, on the show, locking a card in just makes it so you cant auction it... but can still get the 5 pp for commons youll never use

dkgo · 06-24-2019, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

You shouldn't be able to quick-sell locked cards. You can select a list of tagged cards to sell, but it will skip any locked cards when it both tells you the price and actually processes the sales.

*ie. I select players A, B, C, and D to sell. If players A and B are locked, the popup will say, "do you want to sell 2 cards for 10 PP?", ignoring A and B

This makes sense.

Germaniac · 06-24-2019, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by acclaim99

It's done fine, the price to unlock the SE card is locking in the others.

No, it's not. At least not for me.

I feel that the SE card should be the reward for taking the time and the effort to collect all necessary cards. Locking cards should be the option for the user to prevent himself from accidently selling cards he needs for a collection (we all know there are a number of crab cards required nobody would normally keep)

But that's the way it is ...

I was excited when this feature came up last week, but Collection Mission the way it is handled simply is not for me.

dkgo · 06-24-2019, 03:16 PM

if you allowed cards to be sold after use in collections the prices would absolutely skyrocket. only the whaliest of whales would have the initial capital to finish anything good

there is a good reason that the feature works similarly in every game it appears in

acclaim99 · 06-24-2019, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dkgo

if you allowed cards to be sold after use in collections the prices would absolutely skyrocket

even if the only option is the quick sell?

06-24-2019, 02:39 AM	#122
Germaniac Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Frankenthal, Germany Posts: 2,993	I completed the Milwaukee Brewers Live Card collection and got the Special Edition Robin Yount card. I got the Robin Yount Peak card for a nice price, so I sold the Special Edition card. However, all the cards I obtained for the Mission Collction are still locked on my team, even though I don't own the Special Edition card anymore. As far as I'm concerned all cards should be unlocked once the "reward card" has been sold. __________________ I'm going to have to meet my Maker some day. And if He asks me why I didn't let this boy play, and I say it's because he's black, that might not be a satisfactory answer. Happy Chandler, 1947

06-24-2019, 08:49 AM	#123
LansdowneSt Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: From Duxbury, Mass residing Baltimore Posts: 5,119	The locking is part of the price paid to get the card, not the price paid to possess a card... while you don’t own the SE card, you have the PP it sold for. Not much difference. __________________ Complete Universe Facegen Pack 2.0 (mine included): https://www.mediafire.com/file_premi...k_2.0.zip/file Just my Facegen Pack: https://www.mediafire.com/file_premi..._Pack.zip/file

06-24-2019, 02:06 PM	#125
Germaniac Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Frankenthal, Germany Posts: 2,993	This doesn't make sense to me The SE card should be the reward for collecting all these cards necessary ... I really thought that I'd have fun completing several Collection Missions - to me the fun is collecting the cards and eventually get the reward for it But the way it apparently is handled this was my first and last Collection Mission ... I have no interest being handcuffed by having dozens of cards worth tens and hundreds thousand PP's locked on my roster. Too bad, this could (should?) have been done much better. __________________ I'm going to have to meet my Maker some day. And if He asks me why I didn't let this boy play, and I say it's because he's black, that might not be a satisfactory answer. Happy Chandler, 1947

06-24-2019, 02:24 PM	#127
dkgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,152	huh? no you can't maybe the balance of the requirements vs quality of the reward is off a bit (most aren't good enough for people to consider doing), but this is obviously the right way to do it. By comparison, in ultimate team when you complete a squad challenge the cards you submit disappear entirely AND the reward card cannot be sold for coins later. Last edited by dkgo; 06-24-2019 at 02:32 PM.

06-24-2019, 02:28 PM	#129
acclaim99 Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 486	Uh-oh, was it not supposed to be like that? rushes to quick sell all locked cards __________________ https://www.gofundme.com/manage/InMemory2020 Please Donate Last edited by acclaim99; 06-24-2019 at 02:29 PM.

06-24-2019, 09:11 AM	#124
dkgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,152	Yeah. Otherwise you would just be able to resell all the component cards and have the PP value of the reward card as pure profit. This would completely crater the market

06-24-2019, 02:30 PM	#130
dkgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,152	That is a pretty big loophole if true. lol

06-24-2019, 02:34 PM	#132
dkgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,152	The fact that you have to go from the left column circle select and the regular quick sell button is gone makes me think that wasn't supposed to happen. I might actually do a couple of these now, it lowers the price of all the live collections with random garbage diamonds by thousands of points.

06-24-2019, 02:41 PM	#133
acclaim99 Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 486	Yeah I dont think you're supposed to be allowed to do that... otherwise the quick sell on the right hand side wouldn't be grayed out. __________________ https://www.gofundme.com/manage/InMemory2020 Please Donate

06-24-2019, 02:42 PM	#134
acclaim99 Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 486	Wait I don't think its working now after all. You get the pop up about it being sold for the amount, but it doesn't get added after all. sorry __________________ https://www.gofundme.com/manage/InMemory2020 Please Donate

06-24-2019, 02:43 PM	#135
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 14,110	You shouldn't be able to quick-sell locked cards. You can select a list of tagged cards to sell, but it will skip any locked cards when it both tells you the price and actually processes the sales. ie. I select players A, B, C, and D to sell. If players A and B are locked, the popup will say, "do you want to sell 2 cards for 10 PP?", ignoring A and B Last edited by Matt Arnold; 06-24-2019 at 02:45 PM.*

06-24-2019, 03:16 PM	#139
dkgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,152	if you allowed cards to be sold after use in collections the prices would absolutely skyrocket. only the whaliest of whales would have the initial capital to finish anything good there is a good reason that the feature works similarly in every game it appears in Last edited by dkgo; 06-24-2019 at 03:19 PM.