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Old 01-27-2020, 10:46 AM   #821
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Some new caps for the Pennsylvania Keystoners

Some new caps for the Pennsylvania Keystoners. Hopefully they will match well with the uniforms, of course. Also adjusted the shading slightly for the uniforms, but the adjustments made are too minor to re-post the applicable jerseys for the Keystoners. That is all. CD out.
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Old 01-27-2020, 11:21 PM   #822
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What do you think of these caps, Eugene? Just wondering, that's all. CD out.
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Old 01-28-2020, 10:38 AM   #823
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Some new caps for the Pennsylvania Keystoners. Hopefully they will match well with the uniforms, of course. Also adjusted the shading slightly for the uniforms, but the adjustments made are too minor to re-post the applicable jerseys for the Keystoners. That is all. CD out.
The cap lettering is fine... but you use too many colors for me... I think the Red, Blue and Yellow/Gold would go very well together and look very good.

I would leave the Green out... I would make the caps main color either Red or Blue... not that strange color... I have no idea what color it is...the bills are Red and Blue, why didn't you make the whole cap Red or Blue to match the other colors

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Actually, the caps are mainly yellow, but it might look brown to you because of the shading and all used, for the Keystoners. We both know that some teams don't always use the same colors for the top or bottom of the bills that they use for the majority of the rest of the cap, and sometimes they don't always color the buttons the same as they do the other parts of the cap. I was coloring them the way I did in recognition of that fact.

But I will take your thoughts into consideration for future reference and all, just the same, for sure, in terms of color usage, when it comes to team-related needs. I have to think I kept the related text simpler and easier to read and the past two times, though. Even granted that certain names are longer than most team or location names may be, I still think I did, with good font usage that may fit the appropriate time period or periods well enough for now.

I've been looking for swallow-related imagery, but still haven't found something or some things that I think might be good enough concepts for the intended purpose or purposes related to my newest thread. Although I'm still considering the items I've been looking at since cephasjames gave me some advice, to be sure. There may be some possible imagery we might be able to work with, somehow, but not quite sure yet, in all honesty here.

Thank you for your input and all, as always. I can at least do uniforms, and I think I'm getting at least a little bit better at doing caps, but when I've tried using Pickoff, I can't seem to get anything to look decent enough somehow, no matter what it is. And I don't know why that is the case for me, at least right now, to be honest.

Will write more later, I'm sure, Lord willing. But I'll probably spend much of the next two weeks writing, if and when I can, before my birthday, because I would really like to try and get at least one or two more chapters of my story written, at least in first-draft status, by then, if possible. Ideally, I'd like to be able to finish the entire story's first draft by then, but that's quite unlikely at this point for me, it seems.

Until my next post, I'll see you later, I'm sure, Lord willing, then. Take care and God bless, I hope, my dear friend and brother in Christ. CD out.
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Old 01-28-2020, 06:24 PM   #825
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What would you think of me doing a Dukes of Hazzard-themed team or two, perhaps, at least in terms of potential caps and/or uniforms? I probably wouldn't be able to do the logos, of course, given my still-current problems with Pickoff. But maybe I could still do at least a few items influenced by the Dukes of Hazzard, for instance, if not also by other television shows or movies, et cetera, somehow.

Just something I was thinking about earlier, that's all. Of course, some might object to the idea of using a Confederate-style flag on certain teams' items. ut the General Lee bore such a flag on its roof for all the cars they used for various jumps and all, I'm sure.

I was thinking one proposed team could be called the Hazzard Ridgerunners or the Hazzard Generals or Hazzard Dukes, while another could be the Hazzard Hoggs, the Hazzard Lawmen, or the Hazzard Pond Jumpers, for example. Not quite sure on the respective potential teams' colors and/or looks, et cetera, yet, of course. But I still think it would perhaps be quite interesting to see what they might be like, at least.

Will write more later, I'm sure, if and when possible and all, Lord willing. Talk to you soon, I hope, Eugene. CD out.
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Old 01-28-2020, 11:34 PM   #826
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What would you think of me doing a Dukes of Hazzard-themed team or two, perhaps, at least in terms of potential caps and/or uniforms? I probably wouldn't be able to do the logos, of course, given my still-current problems with Pickoff. But maybe I could still do at least a few items influenced by the Dukes of Hazzard, for instance, if not also by other television shows or movies, et cetera, somehow.

Just something I was thinking about earlier, that's all. Of course, some might object to the idea of using a Confederate-style flag on certain teams' items. ut the General Lee bore such a flag on its roof for all the cars they used for various jumps and all, I'm sure.

I was thinking one proposed team could be called the Hazzard Ridgerunners or the Hazzard Generals or Hazzard Dukes, while another could be the Hazzard Hoggs, the Hazzard Lawmen, or the Hazzard Pond Jumpers, for example. Not quite sure on the respective potential teams' colors and/or looks, et cetera, yet, of course. But I still think it would perhaps be quite interesting to see what they might be like, at least.

Will write more later, I'm sure, if and when possible and all, Lord willing. Talk to you soon, I hope, Eugene. CD out.
You have a good imagination... the Hazzard Generals sounds good... the others are not something I would use... I'm from the South, but I personally would stay clear of the Confederate flag... and just use some type of crossed swords or 4 stars for the Generals.. you could do Blue and Gold... or Gray and Gold... maybe Blue, Gold and Gray might work, too.

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Old 01-29-2020, 12:42 AM   #827
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I was thinking about perhaps using the General Lee's colors, at least, if nothing else. Meaning orange, at least, would have to be used, I believe. If not other colors as well, of course. Yes, I suppose any flag from the historical Confederacy is considered to be rather unpopular, shall we say, even if it's not used intentionally in a manner meant to offend anyone, for many people, at least, but only as recognition of our nation's historical development, et cetera.

As I recall, there were at least a few episodes referencing moonshine running in the past, prior to the start of the series, during the original run of episodes for the show in question. And Boss Hogg was always trying to get his hands on Uncle Jesse's moonshine recipe, among other things he was often trying to get his hands on.

Dukes comes from the main heroes in the show, of course, while the Hoggs would come from Boss and/or his Boar's Nest, for example. Ridgerunners could be in reference to the group of moonshiners trying to avoid the Feds when they were on their runs, of course. Lawmen could be in reference to Rosco, Enos, and Cletus. And Pond Jumpers could often reference the many jumps the General and/or other vehicles likely made over the course of the series, too, you know.

Not sure what I'd perhaps use for colors for each potential team, or what they might look like, in sufficient enough relation to the Dukes of Hazzard television series. But it still would quite be interesting to see what I or others could come up with for television show or movie-themed/influenced teams that haven't already been made, I think. I don't think anyone's done an A-Team-themed set, for example, yet. Or Knight Rider, for another.

Just a few thoughts now on my mind, as I try to figure out what next to write for my story and all, for your information. Hope to hear back from you again very soon, of course, Lord willing. CD out.
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Sorry, CD... I'm not into TV or movie-based leagues.
I just play regular world fictional players set in a normal, everyday fictional world.

But the beauty of OOTPB is that you can design your leagues, dynasties, logos, jerseys and caps, and league and team colors the way you choose.

If you want a Dukes of Hazzard League, go to it.
But don't think you will get much help on the Graphics Forum.
These days it's hard to get a simple league logo done.

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Don't think I could create such a league for seasons before the 1970's, but I could, I suppose. Still haven't found many swallows-related sports logos that don't pertain to the Yakult Swallows or certain African or certain Asian sports teams, unfortunately. Will keep looking, however. CD out.
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Feel free to give me a crack at a team, if and when you like, for the IPA. I'll see what I can do for you, if you do, as soon as I can, et cetera. Although you'll probably need someone else to do the logos at the current time, of course, you know, Eugene. CD out.
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Don't think I could create such a league for seasons before the 1970's, but I could, I suppose. Still haven't found many swallows-related sports logos that don't pertain to the Yakult Swallows or certain African or certain Asian sports teams, unfortunately. Will keep looking, however. CD out.
I saw quite a few nice swallow images... why can't you use the Yakult Swallows?... are they too modern for you?

Why don't post a sample of a 1920 logo you like... I would like to see the type you want.

Even I can make a decent Swallow logo... it wouldn't be 1920 style like you want... teams didn't even have logos back then very often... most of the time they would use one capital letter for the name of the team... logos really didn't begin to get popular until the 1950s and 60s.
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Yes, too modern, at least for my tastes related to the Swallowtails. I'll do some looking around some more, and see if I can't find a swallow-related logo that might satisfy me enough to work for a base concept idea.

Thank you for the information, and if and when I can find at least one, if not more than one, swallow-type logo that catches my eye well enough, I'll post it or them in the relevant request thread. Ohio will play from 1901 to 1925 as the Swallowtails before moving from Columbus to Cincinnati and turning into the Reds, ideally.

As for the Keystoners, I'm not quite sure how I might want their logo or logos to look just yet, to be sure. But I expect to have a much better idea of what I'd want for them once Ohio's taken care of well enough.

Until next post, then, I'll close. Talk more with you soon, Lord willing, of course, I hope. CD out.
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Post a 1920 style logo you like... do they even exist?

I would like to know what a good 1920 logo looks like.
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Here are the logos for MLB teams in the early years... notice they are usually just a capital letter and very simple.

Is this what you want for 1920?

Look how bad the two Federal League logos are.
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Some pictures I found

They never got fancy, generally, with their logos, for example? Why do you think that is, perhaps? Just wondering, that's all. Found a couple of pictures of swallows, but they're not logo-style pictures. I found a couple of other pictures as well, including one that has a keystone on it. I'll show you what I mean below. Of course, I don't claim ownership of them, et cetera. But I'll post them to show you what I've found for a couple of pictures.

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As far as the new New Era MLB Clubhouse caps, I think I like the ones for the Diamondbacks, Cubs, Angels, Brewers, Yankees, Athletics, Cardinals, and Rays the best. The ones I probably like the least are the ones for the White Sox, Indians, Marlins, Mets, Phillies, and the Nationals, if I'm not too mistaken here. Not too enthused about the Braves, Astros, Dodgers, Twins, Pirates, and Giants, either. The others are okay, but of course could be better than they seem to be.

Will write more later, I'm sure, Lord willing and all, of course. CD out.
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They never got fancy, generally, with their logos, for example? Why do you think that is, perhaps? Just wondering, that's all. Found a couple of pictures of swallows, but they're not logo-style pictures. I found a couple of other pictures as well, including one that has a keystone on it. I'll show you what I mean below. Of course, I don't claim ownership of them, et cetera. But I'll post them to show you what I've found for a couple of pictures.

Will write more later, I'm sure. CD out.
Are these examples of what you want your logos to look like?

Do you want pictures of live birds on your logos?
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Not necessarily live birds, mind you, but I'd still prefer the head and/or body to face towards the observer's left, if possible, when they're facing the item in question. At least on the caps and/or uniforms. Hypothetically speaking, that is, obviously.

I'm not asking that they create new uniforms for the Swallowtails, of course, but was hoping for a mascot-type logo or logos I could add to uniforms or caps I might make later for Ohio. For the non-uniform or non-cap logos, they could be in any orientation someone might want to put them in, if they so desired, and if they felt it was appropriate enough to do so, for sure.

As for the Keystoners, I was thinking perhaps a K on a keystone, with either PA or Pennsylvania somewhere near or on the keystone in a logo, for example. Although I don't know if it would be best if the K had a fancy look for it or any of the other potential text on the logo or logos in question, or if interlocking text was present anywhere at all for it or them, just yet.

I don't know why I can't seem to get the hang of Pickoff well enough just yet, but it still seems to be a problem for me at present, no matter how hard I try to work with it. Any ideas on why I'm finding it hard to work with right now?

Will write more later, I'm sure, Lord willing and all, of course, Eugene. CD out.
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Also have these images saved

Also have these images saved, which you've probably seen before, in relation to potential ideas for Anashe's logo-related looks, at least. If I remember correctly, you didn't think that others would likely be able to create looks similar to these, in terms of looks related to Anashe Jazz logos, easily enough, Eugene. CD out.
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Maybe a look sort of like how low has the bird head on caps and uniforms for the Warhawks team set he just did, for example, but not necessarily exactly like that, of course, might work well for the Swallowtails. He's been doing some rather excellent work, I think, of late. Although I don't know how many of the teams he's been doing things for I'll potentially use later on, just yet, you know, he's generally been turning out very good work more and more of late, in my view.

Will write more later, when and if I can and all, you know. Take care, and hope you have a good night and all, obviously. CD out.
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