The New Tactical System - Page 2

spartimae · 10-25-2016, 04:31 PM

which tactic is best if you want a high scoring offence?

spartimae · 10-28-2016, 08:38 PM

is there any way for me to give my third line 1st or second line roles?

kitridge · 11-03-2016, 05:46 PM

What's the best way to understand the tactical roles for my players when I'm playing GM-only in Path to Glory? I want to improve my 2nd line winger who is a '3 dot' screener, but I don't seem to have any indication what my own players are good at nor what the players I'm targeting excel in, nor do I have any way to see how my coach would use such a player should I trade for them (i.e. I might like the guy as a top 6 RW playmaker, but my coach might decide 3rd line two-way forward). How does everyone else deal with this in PTG as GM Only?

Torgonius · 11-03-2016, 07:35 PM

It's tough. We have a discussion going in another thread about ways to improve it. Mine was to include something in a player's scouting report under role or ability that gave an indication of the tactics to which he's suited. There are other ways it could be done, too.

Right now, since I have coach/gm going, I just plug different guys into different spots to see how the dots work out, then track it all on a spreadsheet. It's time consuming, but it only needs to be setup once, then updated as specific players get ratings boosts.

Since your in GM only mode, I'd suggest creating a sandbox version of your game (using the same team), but in coach mode, so you can at least fiddle around with roles a little.

The team has been really good at listening to our feedback, so we should see something coming out in an update. Not necessarily the first one, but one of the early ones.

Big T · 11-03-2016, 09:23 PM

I am loving the new tactics. Much like Torognius said. I keep track of my players roles and it aids me in locating players to fill roles and my current weaknesses based on my teams tactics. I find this has made me much more emersed in my team.

pucku33 · 11-07-2016, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffR

If you're seeing a lot of 1- and 2-dot players, you may want to reconsider the tactic your using, as it may not be appropriate for the kind of players for your team (or, you can find some players that can execute it properly.

I think this feature may be broken based on that description. I play as the London Knights and have just FOUR players at two stars, the remaining SEVENTEEN at one star.

My tactic is Cycling/Counter Attack and ONE STAR Goalscorer, Max Jones, leads the league in scoring.

omjo · 11-08-2016, 02:59 AM

Maybe I haven't gotten deep enough in the new tactics system... but one of the only complaints I have about the new system is player roles. For example, I have my powerplay tactic set to overload. For my 5vs3 PP, only one of my defencemen can have a defenceman role. For example, if I give my LD a 'Point Shooter' role, my RD gets roles like 'Playmaker' or 'Setup man', whereas my 5v4 and 4v3 PP units I can have a 'Point Shooter' and 'Playmaking Defenceman' on a single pairing.

IMO the way that player roles override one another seems kind of clunky. I like the feature itself, but I should be able to give two defencemen on a pairing "defencemen" roles. I know it's new and will be built upon, just wanted to air my grievance.

DFyvie · 11-08-2016, 03:03 AM

One question about the tactics screen: As a user I am unable to assign roles to any of my players in the 4on4/3on3 screen. However, if I let the AI assign lines and roles, those fields are filled. Is this a bug?

JeffR · 11-08-2016, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pucku33

I think this feature may be broken based on that description. I play as the London Knights and have just FOUR players at two stars, the remaining SEVENTEEN at one star.

My tactic is Cycling/Counter Attack and ONE STAR Goalscorer, Max Jones, leads the league in scoring.

It looks like the display isn't adjusting for league quality, it's all being compared to NHL-level standards, we'll have to change that.

JeffR · 11-08-2016, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DFyvie

One question about the tactics screen: As a user I am unable to assign roles to any of my players in the 4on4/3on3 screen. However, if I let the AI assign lines and roles, those fields are filled. Is this a bug?

No, that's deliberate, those use data from the 5-on-5 tactics.

DFyvie · 11-08-2016, 04:52 AM

One more question: When on the PP or on the PK, should I adjust the global settings or is this already activated with the particular tactic? In other words, should I speed up the tempo and ramp up my offensive risk-taking when on the powerplay.. or is that already being done anyway with the powerplay tactic I am using?

AlpineSK · 11-08-2016, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffR

No, that's deliberate, those use data from the 5-on-5 tactics.

Does it take roles from your L1, L2 etc or does it take roles for those specific players? I could just see an issue because I might want to have different pairings if I was playing 4v4 or 3v3.

omjo · 11-08-2016, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffR

No, that's deliberate, those use data from the 5-on-5 tactics.

Are there any plans to expand the tactics so that we can assign different tactics for each line rather than just even strength, power play, and penalty kill?

Wouldn't expect that in FHM 3 ofc, but maybe 4?

Peter- · 11-09-2016, 02:01 PM

I noticed that the wrong defender played in one of my two lines in the 3on3 play in overtime. I had set Nils and Jaros on the defender position in each line but I saw that Melart took Jaros place and he alternated with Nils the hole overtime. Why is that? :O

JeffR · 11-10-2016, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter-

I noticed that the wrong defender played in one of my two lines in the 3on3 play in overtime. I had set Nils and Jaros on the defender position in each line but I saw that Melart took Jaros place and he alternated with Nils the hole overtime. Why is that? :O

My first guess (aside from something obvious like an injury or penalty) would be Jaros having run out of game fatigue time and Melart still having some left.

Peter- · 11-10-2016, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffR

My first guess (aside from something obvious like an injury or penalty) would be Jaros having run out of game fatigue time and Melart still having some left.

Yes, it could be it! Many of my players have zero in that column in the end of the games..what is best to do so they bother a full match?

Charlatan1 · 11-12-2016, 03:41 PM

Enough with one column per player, not two. AI makes a Backstrøm of Ovechkin (prim shooter, then playmaker). Or to make it easyer, make is an option to have one or two columns.

mmarra82 · 01-02-2017, 10:28 PM

In GM only mode you have no way to change tactics...correct?

However, if you play in GM/Coach mode you lose the current team's head coach...is that right?

I don't want to coach games, only be able to change my team's tactics to play.

Is there a way to do so?

Thanks for any guidance here guys...new to the game, enjoying it but having a tough time grasping a lot.

GMO123 · 01-03-2017, 08:21 AM

Some GMs are less 'hands-on' managers (relatively less interference with what the Head Coach is doing) while other GMs are more 'hands-on' (giving the the Head Coach more directions as to what to do - tactics, players to play etc.).

This could be duplicated in FHM i.e. more flexibility in the GM role.

11-03-2016, 05:46 PM	#23
kitridge Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 4	How to use as GM What's the best way to understand the tactical roles for my players when I'm playing GM-only in Path to Glory? I want to improve my 2nd line winger who is a '3 dot' screener, but I don't seem to have any indication what my own players are good at nor what the players I'm targeting excel in, nor do I have any way to see how my coach would use such a player should I trade for them (i.e. I might like the guy as a top 6 RW playmaker, but my coach might decide 3rd line two-way forward). How does everyone else deal with this in PTG as GM Only?

10-25-2016, 04:31 PM	#21
spartimae Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: St. Albert Canada Posts: 176	which tactic is best if you want a high scoring offence?

10-28-2016, 08:38 PM	#22
spartimae Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: St. Albert Canada Posts: 176	is there any way for me to give my third line 1st or second line roles?

11-03-2016, 07:35 PM	#24
Torgonius All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 826	It's tough. We have a discussion going in another thread about ways to improve it. Mine was to include something in a player's scouting report under role or ability that gave an indication of the tactics to which he's suited. There are other ways it could be done, too. Right now, since I have coach/gm going, I just plug different guys into different spots to see how the dots work out, then track it all on a spreadsheet. It's time consuming, but it only needs to be setup once, then updated as specific players get ratings boosts. Since your in GM only mode, I'd suggest creating a sandbox version of your game (using the same team), but in coach mode, so you can at least fiddle around with roles a little. The team has been really good at listening to our feedback, so we should see something coming out in an update. Not necessarily the first one, but one of the early ones.

11-03-2016, 09:23 PM	#25
Big T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,878	I am loving the new tactics. Much like Torognius said. I keep track of my players roles and it aids me in locating players to fill roles and my current weaknesses based on my teams tactics. I find this has made me much more emersed in my team.

11-08-2016, 02:59 AM	#27
omjo Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 288	Maybe I haven't gotten deep enough in the new tactics system... but one of the only complaints I have about the new system is player roles. For example, I have my powerplay tactic set to overload. For my 5vs3 PP, only one of my defencemen can have a defenceman role. For example, if I give my LD a 'Point Shooter' role, my RD gets roles like 'Playmaker' or 'Setup man', whereas my 5v4 and 4v3 PP units I can have a 'Point Shooter' and 'Playmaking Defenceman' on a single pairing. IMO the way that player roles override one another seems kind of clunky. I like the feature itself, but I should be able to give two defencemen on a pairing "defencemen" roles. I know it's new and will be built upon, just wanted to air my grievance.

11-08-2016, 03:03 AM	#28
DFyvie Major Leagues Join Date: May 2014 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 370 Blog Entries: 2	One question about the tactics screen: As a user I am unable to assign roles to any of my players in the 4on4/3on3 screen. However, if I let the AI assign lines and roles, those fields are filled. Is this a bug?

11-08-2016, 04:52 AM	#31
DFyvie Major Leagues Join Date: May 2014 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 370 Blog Entries: 2	One more question: When on the PP or on the PK, should I adjust the global settings or is this already activated with the particular tactic? In other words, should I speed up the tempo and ramp up my offensive risk-taking when on the powerplay.. or is that already being done anyway with the powerplay tactic I am using?

11-09-2016, 02:01 PM	#34
Peter- Minors (Single A) Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 56	I noticed that the wrong defender played in one of my two lines in the 3on3 play in overtime. I had set Nils and Jaros on the defender position in each line but I saw that Melart took Jaros place and he alternated with Nils the hole overtime. Why is that? :O

11-12-2016, 03:41 PM	#37
Charlatan1 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Norway Posts: 25	Enough with one column per player, not two. AI makes a Backstrøm of Ovechkin (prim shooter, then playmaker). Or to make it easyer, make is an option to have one or two columns.

01-02-2017, 10:28 PM	#38
mmarra82 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 310	In GM only mode you have no way to change tactics...correct? However, if you play in GM/Coach mode you lose the current team's head coach...is that right? I don't want to coach games, only be able to change my team's tactics to play. Is there a way to do so? Thanks for any guidance here guys...new to the game, enjoying it but having a tough time grasping a lot.

01-03-2017, 08:21 AM	#39
GMO123 Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 380	Some GMs are less 'hands-on' managers (relatively less interference with what the Head Coach is doing) while other GMs are more 'hands-on' (giving the the Head Coach more directions as to what to do - tactics, players to play etc.). This could be duplicated in FHM i.e. more flexibility in the GM role.