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SKIPPER KELP JMW (1990-1998) Overall Rating = 6
Born - Saigon, Vietnam Hometown - Las Vegas, Nevada, USA 24(15)-4-1 Wins over Lee Fortune, Anthony Ivory and Adrian Stone. Outpointed by Raul Marquez in bout for the USBA Jr Middleweight title and by Tony Martin in bid for the USBA Welterweight belt. Only stoppage loss was a sixth round KO to Bronco McKart.
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YOUNG TOMMY (Fernando Opao) - BW (1929-1936) Overall Rating = 9
Born - Silay, Philippines Hometown - Los Angeles, California, USA 60(24)-17-9 Stopped Little Moro in the eleventh to claim the Bantamweight Championship of the Orient in 1931. Stopped Canto Robleto to win the California State Bantamweight belt in 1932 and defended against Speedy Dado and Young Pancho before losing the title to Dado in a rematch. He had an impressive opponent list: Joe Teiken-------4-----0-----1 Speedy Dado-----2-----2-----0 Newsboy Brown--1-----1-----0 Baby Arizmendi---1-----0-----0 Pete Sanstol-----1-----0-----0 Frankie Genaro---1-----0-----0 John Yasui-------1-----0-----0 Huerta Evans--- -1-----0-----0 Piston Horiguchi--0-----0-----1 Pablo Dano----- -0-----1(DQ)-1 Midget Wolgast- -0-----2-----0 Over 86 career bouts, he was stopped on four occations. Two came in his final two bouts with the final one being a brutal 6 knockdown, one round KO to Al Spina.
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JUS WALLIE - Current WW Overall Rating = 1
Born - Colombo, Sri Lanka Hometown - London, England, UK 3(2)-9-1 Stopped twice by inexperienced fighters Kevin O'Hara and Lee Cook. Dropped 6 and 8 round decisions to Samuel Kebede, Andy Morris and Martin Watson. Note: you will need to change the flag to Sri Lanka on this file
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Keeping with the Asian fighters - Here is the needing "tweak" for Khaosai Galaxy - (JBW).
Here is what seems to be the consensus ratings for Khaosai Galxy - This is from myself (I've watched dozens of his fights) a friend / trading partner in Asia (along with several of his boxing acquaintences - who have all seen dozens of Galaxy fights.....some live) ... as well as Joe Koizumi (foremost expert on boxing in Asia).. TRUE GALAXY RATINGS - Khaosai Galaxy Ratings Control vs Boxer 11 Control vs Slugger 12 Hitting Power 12 Chin vs Knockdown 2 Chin vs Knockout 1 Recovery 1 Resistance to Cuts 2 (could be a 1 - some debate here) Absorb Punishment 1 Killer Instinct 10 Aggressiveness 8 Endurance 9 Defense 3 Fast Starter 2 Fight on Ropes 2 Conditioning 1 Intellect 8 Proficiency 10 Fight Inside 3 Fight Outside 2 Cover Up 2 Go for Knockout 4 Clinching 71 Style Slugger Fouls Occasionally Punches % 2 Pt. 3 Pt. Jabs 15.00 3.75 Hooks 7.50 16.25 Crosses 7.50 15.00 Combinations 7.50 10.00 Uppercuts 6.25 11.25 Punching 39 Counterpunching 38 Punches Missed 62 |
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Another great Asian fighter -
Here is the BoxRec link for Ratanapol Sor Vorapin -(and note by the time he lost to Zolani Pethelo and his other 2 losses...he was much past his prime...).. http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=003582 What his game ratings should be are as follows - Ratanapol Sor Vorapin (Strawweight) Control vs Boxer 11 Control vs Slugger 11 Hitting Power 10 Chin vs Knockdown 2 Chin vs Knockout 2 Recovery 2 Resistance to Cuts 2 Absorb Punishment 1 Killer Instinct 9 Aggressiveness 8 (some discusson of a 9 here) Endurance 8 Defense 2 Fast Starter 1 Fight on Ropes 2 Conditioning 1 Intellect 7 Proficiency 10 Fight Inside 4 Fight Outside 1 Cover Up 1 Go for Knockout 3 Clinching 71 Style Slugger Fouls Occasionally Punching 39 Counterpunching 37 Punches Missed 63 And this will link you to a picture for him (along with K. Galaxy and Sung Kil Moon). http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...6&page=3&pp=20 |
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Here is some suggestions for Sung Kil Moon the very good JBW champion in the late 80's early 90's - (link above has pictures)
Ratings Control vs Boxer 9 Control vs Slugger 10 (Moon was very solid Vs an opponent who stand and trade....he actually hoped for his...boxers gave him a slight bit more trouble) Hitting Power 9 (( is about right...but I'd give him a slight boost in his 3pt values for hooks) Chin vs Knockdown 3 (he was kd from time to time...but always got up and would roar back) Chin vs Knockout 1 Recovery 2 Resistance to Cuts 3 (he did cut) Absorb Punishment 2 (tough call here...I have him at a 2...my friend from Japan reccommends him at a 1) Killer Instinct 8 Aggressiveness 9 (he was all pressure) Endurance 8 (this is another tough one -straight up I would say an 8 is fine...but in a way endurance is the one factor within the game TBCB that can allow for the intangibles....such as heart, desire, etc ....a possibly 9 here....again I have him at an 8.....my fellow japan counterpart suggest a 9) Defense 2 (he could be hit...and often left himself wide open because of his aggressiveness....though maybe a 1 would do...but I have him at a 2 ...and I think that is more accurate ) Fast Starter 1 Fight on Ropes 2 Draw Power 5 Conditioning 1 (was always in shape.....until his last few fights where making weight seemed to be hurting him) Intellect 7 Proficiency 10 Fight Inside 3 (liked to get in close and bang with hooks) Fight Outside 1 Cover Up 2 Go for Knockout 3 Clinching 70 Punches landed 39 Counter Punches 38 Punches Missed 62 / 63 (He would throw punches in volume and was open for counters) So - there is what I have on the books for Sung Kil Moon - (your 2pt - 3pt punches look about right on....I might slighly increase what you have for 3pt hooks) |
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RYOSUKE TAKAHASHI Current HW Overall Rating = 2
Hometown - Tokyo, Japan 13(7)-3-1 Has beaten Auckland Auimatagi, Mosese Kavika, Shane Norford and other heavies of limited talent. Takahashi is scheduled to fight Peter Okhello for the OPBF Heavyweight title later this month.
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AKIRA SAITO HW (1975-1978) Overall Rating = 1
Hometown - Tokyo, Japan 4(4)-4-0 Japanese heavy that fought briefly in the seventies in Honolulu, Las Vegas and Tokyo.
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JOHNNY TAUPAU SNR HW (1981-1989) Overall Rating =1
Born - Samoa Hometown - Wellington, New Zealand 10(3)-11-0 Stopped by Alex Sua in 1982 bid for the New Zealand Light Heavyweight title. Lost to Jeff Harding, Apollo Sweet and twice to Kevin Wagstaff.
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WAISIKI LIGALOA HW (1989-2002) Overall Rating = 1
Hometown - Suva, Fiji Islands 17(10)-17-4 One-time Fijian Cruiserweight and Heavyweight champion. Stopped by Joe Bugner in 1997 bid for the PABA Heavyweight belt. Lost to Aisea Nama, Kali Meehan and Peter Okhello. Stopped 11 times over 38 pro bouts.
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SAM N'GATA (Semi Tangi Manu) HW (1971-1983) Overall Rating = 1
Born - Tonga Hometown - Honolulu, Hawaii 17(10)-17-2 Ran up a number of wins over weak competition in Australia, New Zealand and New Caledonia. N'Gata lost repeatedly when he went to the U.S. dropping bouts to Anthony Davis, Ron Draper, Mark Lee, Alex Sua (in NZ) and Aisea Nama (Fiji) amoung others.
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Thanks for posting these Asian fighters Chris. They are a group that have definately been under-represented in the game.
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Thanks Shane, I would imagine that you run into more these guys than most of us do.
AARON JOSHUA FW (1947-1950) Overall Rating = 4 Hometown - Calcutta, India 18(4)-10-2 Joshua was born in Calcutta, where Christian names are fairly common due to the long standing British influence. He did most of his pro boxing in the U.S., finishing in England and Europe. He beat Johnny Malloy, Billy Banks and Bobby Bell. Lost to Harold Dade, Harry LaSane, Percy Bassett and Malloy. Joshua was stopped three times, all knockouts.
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TOMMY ABOBO BW (1926-1933) Overall Rating = 2
Born - Philippines Hometown - Brooklyn, New York, USA 21(1)-83-16 Abobo was born in the Philippines but did all of his boxing in New York. He outpointed Jimmy Doyle for the New York State National Guard Bantamweight belt in 1929 but lost it on his first defense to Fred Monte. For the most part, Tommy was a staple opponent for nearly every bantam or flyweight that passed through New York in the late twenties and early thirties. He lost bouts to Henry Catena, Black Bill, Tommy Lorenzo, Izzy Schwartz, Teddy Baldock, Abe Wasserman, Lew Monte, Benny Tell and Midget Wolgast among others. Amazingly, with all of the losses that he piled up, Abobo was only stopped twice in 120 pro bouts.
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LONG-SING QUE FW (1929-1938) Overall Rating = 1
Born - China Hometown - New York, New York, USA 3(0)-68-5 Que fought out of New York City in the thirties. He lost to Frankie Marino, Jack Terranova, Koli Kolo and virtually anyone else that he picked a fight with. He was stopped 11 times and was still fighting four rounders at the end of his ten year career.
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SILVINO JAMITO FW (1917-1928) Overall Rating - 5
Hometown - Camarines, Philippines 42(5)-56-16 Jamito fought in the Philippines, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore and briefly in the U.S. at the end of his career. He took the Oriental Lightweight title from Irineo Flores in 1923 and lost a bid for the Australian Featherweight belt in a 20 round decision loss to Jackie Green in 1921. Beat Jerry Monahan, Kid Symonds, Bud Ridley, Frankie Monroe and Bert Spargo. Suffered losses to Ridley, Spargo, Charlie Purdy, Frank Thorn and Eugene Criqui (20 round decision). Drew with Paul Demsky and Jackie Green. Jamito was stopped 4 times in 114 pro bouts including a 12 round TKO to Armando Schaekels in his final bout.
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