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Old 05-20-2015, 06:35 PM   #1
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Why Does the Game Pinch Hit for the Pitchers in their First At-Bat?

I've been playing OOTPB since version 3 and have never had this happen.

In almost every game the starting pitchers are pinched hit for the first time they come to bat... often with the score 0-0.

There is no rain delay... and I know of no setting that would cause this.

Pinchhitting is set to "Very Rarely".

The AI is in control of everything while playing out an individual game... although I do have it in the Commissioner Mode for roster control.

What could cause this?

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Old 05-20-2015, 06:56 PM   #2
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I've been playing OOTPB since version 3 and have never had this happen.

In almost every game the starting pitchers are pinched hit for the first time they come to bat... often with the score 0-0.

There is no rain delay... and I know of no setting that would cause this.

Pinchhitting is set to "Very Rarely".

The AI is in control of everything while playing out an individual game... although I do have it in the Commissioner Mode for roster control.

What could cause this?
That's a strange one Eugene. It may seem off the wall but is there any way that these pitchers have a low pitch count set? Look in player game strategy for that.

I'm racking my brain to think of something else.
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That's a strange one Eugene. It may seem off the wall but is there any way that these pitchers have a low pitch count set? Look in player game strategy for that.

I'm racking my brain to think of something else.
I checked all the pitchers involved and none of them had a pitch count limit.

The only thing I have changed recently was to allow the starters to be relievers, too.

I also changed "very rarely" to "rarely" for relievers and closers on the Game Settings screen in the General Strategic Tendencies section of the screen.

I selected "yes" in the rotation settings on the team pitching screen.
All the starters are listed as "Closer" 8th inning or later.
All the relievers have "none specified" in primary role.
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I'm beginning to think that OOTP15 is not as stable as OOTP12, which I have been using for several years.
I've notice errors in the News and quite a few other little glitches.

I bought OOTP13 and OOTP14 just to support Markus, but didn't use them... I never could get my OOTP12 league to convert properly... my league archives were alway messed up.

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I think your problem is actually placing the starters into the relief roles. By doing so, the game thinks they are relievers and limits their pitch counts. By choosing "Yes" in the rotation settings you will get the result of starting pitchers occasionally closing games without needing to actually place them in a "Closer" role.
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I think your problem is actually placing the starters into the relief roles. By doing so, the game thinks they are relievers and limits their pitch counts. By choosing "Yes" in the rotation settings you will get the result of starting pitchers occasionally closing games without needing to actually place them in a "Closer" role.
I will make that change and see what happens.

Thank you for your help.

Very much appreciate it.
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I just changed the use of starters in relief to "No".

The game still pinchhits for the starters when they first come to bat in the game.

Sadly, if I want to continue this league, I will have to control substitutions instead of the AI... I will have to play out each batter... which will take quite of bit of time.

But it is also a positive... I will have much better immersion in this league, if I see every at-bat.

I usually sim the first 7 innings and then take over for the final innings.
This way I can keep the AI from its poor decisions about pinchhitting and pitching changes in late innings.
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All the starters are listed as "Closer" 8th inning or later.
Can you elaborate on this because it is what sounds like the problem to me (you should leave the rotation setting option at "Yes").
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Can you elaborate on this because it is what sounds like the problem to me (you should leave the rotation setting option at "Yes").
Here is a pitching screen with "No" and one with "Yes".
At one time recently, I put primary and secondary roles in for the starters... making them "non-specified" in the primary role and "Closer... 8th inning or later" in the secondary role.

Basically, I just goofed up... the game was working great until I started trying these changes... and I really didn't need it.. I was already controlling the team from the eighth inning on, when the AI makes poor pitching changes, defensive changes and pinchhitting decisions.
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No one seems to have this problem but me... and no one seems to know how to solve it.

I'll just play out all of my games in the State Line League myself... it's just an 8-team league and a 42-game schedule.

So it's no big problem.

In fact, I really enjoyed playing out the whole game.

For the first time in my OOTPB experience, I will be totally immersed in a league... I'll probably end up know how big the players are, how tall they are and their hometowns, too.

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I think your problem is actually placing the starters into the relief roles. By doing so, the game thinks they are relievers and limits their pitch counts. By choosing "Yes" in the rotation settings you will get the result of starting pitchers occasionally closing games without needing to actually place them in a "Closer" role.
Perhaps, but I have played out several historical seasons on 15 and never ran into the problem he is having. Am baffled by it EC.
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Perhaps, but I have played out several historical seasons on 15 and never ran into the problem he is having. Am baffled by it EC.
I'm sure I've have changed a setting somewhere that is causing this.

I have searched as much as I know how... I'll just play out all my games and leave the AI out of all game pitching and pinchhitting decisions
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