Markus, please let us turn nicknames off

[The Wolf]

You can't turn them off in an MLB league.

[Carlton]

Originally Posted by Questdog

Anyone who wants to turn off nicknames can ALREADY do it without any options added to the game.

gee-whizzer......

Yea, I don't understand this

I believe it's just another instance of someone stomping their feet and letting their body go limp until they get ice cream.

I am not even super programmer and all I do is go into the database folder, delete the nicknames, and create a fictional league...no nicknames.

It's that easy

[Questdog]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

I get different results. Did you really need to be this personally offensive when just discussing simple things, or do you just enjoy putting other people down unnecessarily? In either case, I'm done with you.

You are the one who is putting me down when I told you I tested this, but you think I am a liar and make me show you.

All I said is you are running your mouth about something you don't have knowledge about, which is not insulting, merely fact.

A polite person would have either:

1) posted a thread with a question, "Can we turn off Nicknames?

or

2) Tested it himself to find the answer.

If you say you are getting different results, then let me look at your league and see what is wrong with it.

[Fyrestorm3]

I like having the option for nicknames, and I don't think they should ever be removed completely - every once in a rare while, a nickname does add something to my experience. I usually delete 99% of them, however. I'm not a fan. But honestly, I don't understand the pushback against having an option to toggle nicknames on/off. That seems like a very simple solution that would appease everyone, since it allows those who enjoy the nicknames to leave them on, and those who hate them to turn them off. Boom, done, case closed. Like, why is there any debate here in the first place?

[Questdog]

Originally Posted by Fyrestorm3

I like having the option for nicknames, and I don't think they should ever be removed completely - every once in a rare while, a nickname does add something to my experience. I usually delete 99% of them, however. I'm not a fan. But honestly, I don't understand the pushback against having an option to toggle nicknames on/off. That seems like a very simple solution that would appease everyone, since it allows those who enjoy the nicknames to leave them on, and those who hate them to turn them off. Boom, done, case closed. Like, why is there any debate here in the first place?

Because Markus ALREADY included this option in the game. It takes less than three seconds to not have them in a new game and less than three minutes to remove them from an existing game.

And it would be one thing, if the people were clamoring for a button acknowledged that the desired end can be reached without a button, but a button would really make their life easier. But instead they are saying there is no way to get there unless you go by button, which is patently false.

[Questdog]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

You can't turn them off in an MLB league.

The MLB Quickstart is a whole different animal. There are a LOT of things you cannot do with it......it is what it is; if you want it to be something else, you will find the road full of pot holes.....

[The Wolf]

I am an engineer. I know how to test things.

You cannot turn nicknames off in an MLB game. They don't go away. I have tested this and tried everything that everyone ever suggested. Nothing works.

With the addition of foreign leagues to the MLB Quickstart, we suddenly find ourselves with foreign players with totally inappropriate American nicknames. They go all the way to the ridiculous. See some of the posts above.

We need a switch to turn nicknames off. We shouldn't have to empty the nicknames file and reimport name files. We should just be able to turn nicknames off with a switch.

That is what I am asking Markus for. An on-off switch for nicknames. An option. Judging by the thanks the original post in this thread generated, there are a lot of people that would like to be able to turn nicknames off once and for all.

No one needs to get angry over this, act like a child, or throw insults. It's a request for an option. That's all. No one will be harmed by it. If you like your nicknames, you can keep them.

[Fyrestorm3]

Originally Posted by Questdog

Because Markus ALREADY included this option in the game. It takes less than three seconds to not have them in a new game and less than three minutes to remove them from an existing game.

That's perfectly fair, but that's some minor database editing that may very well be beyond a new user who is confused and/or frustrated that he's seen a few too many incongruous nicknames. A simple checkbox would be a much better and more user-friendly way to give people the option.

Originally Posted by Questdog

And it would be one thing, if the people were clamoring for a button acknowledged that the desired end can be reached without a button, but a button would really make their life easier. But instead they are saying there is no way to get there unless you go by button, which is patently false.

I think you're projecting one user onto most of the others, but again, a fair point. I think that's what most of us want, though - just an EASIER way to do it.

[ukhotstove]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

Meh, even for those guys I kind of prefer Dennis "Oil Can" Boyd and Mordecai "Three Finger" Brown. I find myself making up my own appellations of the nicknames anyway. For instance there's a guy in my league the computer named I think Bill Boyd and nicknamed "Bloody"; he's "Bloody Bill" to me, or "Bloody Bill Boyd", not necessarily Bill "Bloody" Boyd as the game shows.

By the way, a neat thing that Title Bout has done for several years is that if a player's name is included in their nickname, their player card will take this into account. For instance, Sugar Ray Leonard looks like "Sugar Ray Leonard" on his screens, not "Ray 'Sugar' Leonard" or "Ray 'Sugar Ray' Leonard". I'd kind of like to see that incorporated into OOTP at some point. Some way of making the nicknames smarter as well would be nice... like only awarding the name "Lefty" to left-handed pitchers, for example, or "Mister October" to guys who actually played well (or even played!) in the postseason.

I will say that often when I see that the game has decided that a player is well known enough to get a nickname, I'll try to change it into something more appropriate for the time period. This is probably a rather specific issue (although if we could get some kind of conditionals with those nicks!!!!....) but seeing some 40 year old guy in 1910 named "Cyberhawk" stikes me as funny.

This is why I always change the name files, I'd rather have a player say Pepper Jenkins than Bill "Pepper" Jenkins, also be nice if you could have seperate nickname files.

[justafan]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

If you like your nicknames, you can keep them.

OK Barack.

[SirMichaelJordan]

Originally Posted by Carlton

Yea, I don't understand this

I believe it's just another instance of someone stomping their feet and letting their body go limp until they get ice cream.

I am not even super programmer and all I do is go into the database folder, delete the nicknames, and create a fictional league...no nicknames.

It's that easy

Speaking of an easy button, a simple option to toggle them on and off is way easy then going through the steps that Questdog mention (which did not work for MLB in the past).

I am going to try what Questdog posted using an MLB game.

[saturn2187]

I followed your steps in my MLB game and it worked like a charm. Thanks Questdog. Not sure what Wolf is doing wrong.

[Caporegime]

Originally Posted by saturn2187

I followed your steps in my MLB game and it worked like a charm. Thanks Questdog. Not sure what Wolf is doing wrong.

Yeah, it worked for me too. Kudos to Q-dog.

However, like the Wolfman, I'd also like to see an in-game option to just turn them on/off, if for no other reason than for simplicity's sake.

[StyxNCa]

Originally Posted by MUFC1878

An empty nickname file only works for a new fictional game or new players. For the ML quickstart, you'll see the already used nicknames re-appear.

What would be ideal is an option to turn them off, or at least another quickstart without them. Playing mostly with Japanese or Korean teams, they can get annoying.

You mean "Tex" isn't a good Korean nickname?

[StyxNCa]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

Tell us how you REALLY feel about them!



Seriously, thank you for your support.

Cras is famous for holding back.

[StyxNCa]

I prefer to create nicknames for players myself, usually based on their performance or their popularity.

[Carlton]

Originally Posted by Fyrestorm3

I like having the option for nicknames, and I don't think they should ever be removed completely - every once in a rare while, a nickname does add something to my experience. I usually delete 99% of them, however. I'm not a fan. But honestly, I don't understand the pushback against having an option to toggle nicknames on/off. That seems like a very simple solution that would appease everyone, since it allows those who enjoy the nicknames to leave them on, and those who hate them to turn them off. Boom, done, case closed. Like, why is there any debate here in the first place?

My issue is and this is constructive, is that whenever a small thing is implemented in the last 3 versions it ends up breaking something else.

Retire Uniform numbers---now you can't edit uniform numbers with a right click on the roster screen, nor can you change their position in Commish mode

That drop down box in the amateur draft that says Feeder leagues or feeder + additional players. For some reason that is doing something to the historical player import where few players are pulled in if you have a feeder league as well.

That is why I am hesistant about toggle switches that require programming for something that is easy as deleting the names from the nickname.txt file.

If Markus can do it and it's easy and it doesn't effect other parts, then I have NO problem with a check mark box in game settings, however, past instances like I mentioned, do not say that will happen...so I'd rather have a workaround than another broken part.

[StyxNCa]

I have issues but my shrink tells me not to discuss them with others.

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by justafan

OK Barack.

Busted.

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by saturn2187

I followed your steps in my MLB game and it worked like a charm. Thanks Questdog. Not sure what Wolf is doing wrong.

Create a bunch of free agents and see if the nicknames don't return.