The Draft

hlywd61 · 05-22-2014, 05:27 PM

Was the draft process/changes that were made last year with the very few "prospect of prospects" kept the same? Or did they change that back?

olivertheorem · 05-22-2014, 09:37 PM

If you mean that there are generally very few 4 and 5-star prospects in the draft and most show as half or 1-star, then yes that's the same.

Rain King · 05-23-2014, 04:23 AM

Although there is a new feature this year which allows you to set what league you want the ratings of the players to be relative to. As you move through the draft you can change this to AAA and maybe AA later to get a feel for the differences in the plethora of 1/2 and 1 star guys as compared to the ML level (i.e. some of the 1-star guys will become 3-star guys when comparing them to AA players).

hlywd61 · 05-23-2014, 07:25 PM

I know this was highly debated last year but booooooo, I don't like it...oh well

Fyrestorm3 · 05-23-2014, 07:40 PM

I didn't like it at first, either, but then I thought about it from a different perspective. Yeah, it makes the later rounds a little boring, but imagine if you had the top pick in the draft. Would you want to look at the board and see 20 different 4- or 5-star players, knowing that 75% of them would have their potential drop drastically in the matter of a year? Or would you rather see 8 of those guys, and have a 50% chance or better at drafting an impact player? I know that baseball's not like most other sports, and there aren't usually those sexy, can't-miss prospects atop the draft board, but it kind of ruins the point of having a high pick if most of the good-looking options are going to wind up being busts.

That's just how I've chosen to look at it.

Rockfan616 · 05-23-2014, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Fyrestorm3

I didn't like it at first, either, but then I thought about it from a different perspective. Yeah, it makes the later rounds a little boring, but imagine if you had the top pick in the draft. Would you want to look at the board and see 20 different 4- or 5-star players, knowing that 75% of them would have their potential drop drastically in the matter of a year? Or would you rather see 8 of those guys, and have a 50% chance or better at drafting an impact player? I know that baseball's not like most other sports, and there aren't usually those sexy, can't-miss prospects atop the draft board, but it kind of ruins the point of having a high pick if most of the good-looking options are going to wind up being busts.

That's just how I've chosen to look at it.

That's a good way to look at it, since 95% of players drafted don't make it to the big leagues anyway and some that do are only there for a quick cup of coffee and that's all. I like how you think Fyrestorm!!

MizzouRah · 05-28-2014, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain King

Although there is a new feature this year which allows you to set what league you want the ratings of the players to be relative to. As you move through the draft you can change this to AAA and maybe AA later to get a feel for the differences in the plethora of 1/2 and 1 star guys as compared to the ML level (i.e. some of the 1-star guys will become 3-star guys when comparing them to AA players).

Speaking of relative ratings and the draft, I have some horrible MLB rating draftees that when you change to say, AA.. they become a potential of 80. Is this a "cheat" or does that really not mean anything?

If he's a top HS player at the AA level, I would think he would be someone I would want to sign. Am I reading into the new relative system too much?

olivertheorem · 05-28-2014, 09:26 PM

Sounds like a viable alternative to me.

Rain King · 05-29-2014, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Speaking of relative ratings and the draft, I have some horrible MLB rating draftees that when you change to say, AA.. they become a potential of 80. Is this a "cheat" or does that really not mean anything?

If he's a top HS player at the AA level, I would think he would be someone I would want to sign. Am I reading into the new relative system too much?

When comparing ratings relative to your AA league, it is using that leagues actual ratings to compare to both your players actual and potential ratings. So, what an 80 potential rating relative to AA says is that your player has the potential to be an awesome AA player...not necessarily an awesome MLB player. So, I wouldn't call it a cheat...it is just a way to differentiate the guys with low MLB potential.

MizzouRah · 05-29-2014, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain King

When comparing ratings relative to your AA league, it is using that leagues actual ratings to compare to both your players actual and potential ratings. So, what an 80 potential rating relative to AA says is that your player has the potential to be an awesome AA player...not necessarily an awesome MLB player. So, I wouldn't call it a cheat...it is just a way to differentiate the guys with low MLB potential.

Ok, makes sense.. I'm just trying to understand the relationship to the ML.

For my first OOTP 15 draft, I'm going to attempt to sign those who have good ratings relative to the league they are going into (rookie league for most) to see what happens.

I guess they could be a career minor leaguer like so many of them are...

BIG17EASY · 05-29-2014, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain King

When comparing ratings relative to your AA league, it is using that leagues actual ratings to compare to both your players actual and potential ratings. So, what an 80 potential rating relative to AA says is that your player has the potential to be an awesome AA player...not necessarily an awesome MLB player. So, I wouldn't call it a cheat...it is just a way to differentiate the guys with low MLB potential.

And, in theory at least, a guy with an 80 potential relative to AA would have a better chance to develop into an MLB-caliber player than a guy with, say, 40 potential relative to AA. Both might be one-star or half-star potential in MLB, but by looking at ratings relative to AA (or whatever level you want) helps us start to differentiate between all those players once we get past the first few rounds.

SirMichaelJordan · 05-29-2014, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Ok, makes sense.. I'm just trying to understand the relationship to the ML.

For my first OOTP 15 draft, I'm going to attempt to sign those who have good ratings relative to the league they are going into (rookie league for most) to see what happens.

I guess they could be a career minor leaguer like so many of them are...

They could be a career minor leaguer but also could also end up being an all star depending on where you set your TCR setting at.

05-22-2014, 05:27 PM	#1
hlywd61 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pasadena,MD Posts: 57	The Draft Was the draft process/changes that were made last year with the very few "prospect of prospects" kept the same? Or did they change that back?

05-23-2014, 07:40 PM	#5
Fyrestorm3 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tampa Bay, Massachusetts Posts: 2,928	I didn't like it at first, either, but then I thought about it from a different perspective. Yeah, it makes the later rounds a little boring, but imagine if you had the top pick in the draft. Would you want to look at the board and see 20 different 4- or 5-star players, knowing that 75% of them would have their potential drop drastically in the matter of a year? Or would you rather see 8 of those guys, and have a 50% chance or better at drafting an impact player? I know that baseball's not like most other sports, and there aren't usually those sexy, can't-miss prospects atop the draft board, but it kind of ruins the point of having a high pick if most of the good-looking options are going to wind up being busts. That's just how I've chosen to look at it. Last edited by Fyrestorm3; 05-23-2014 at 07:41 PM.

05-22-2014, 09:37 PM	#2
olivertheorem All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,919	If you mean that there are generally very few 4 and 5-star prospects in the draft and most show as half or 1-star, then yes that's the same.

05-23-2014, 04:23 AM	#3
Rain King Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,108	Although there is a new feature this year which allows you to set what league you want the ratings of the players to be relative to. As you move through the draft you can change this to AAA and maybe AA later to get a feel for the differences in the plethora of 1/2 and 1 star guys as compared to the ML level (i.e. some of the 1-star guys will become 3-star guys when comparing them to AA players).

05-23-2014, 07:25 PM	#4
hlywd61 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pasadena,MD Posts: 57	I know this was highly debated last year but booooooo, I don't like it...oh well

05-28-2014, 09:26 PM	#8
olivertheorem All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,919	Sounds like a viable alternative to me.