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05-11-2013, 12:29 PM | #41 | |
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Who are you addressing? Me?
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Doesn't work for a hugely complex game like OOTP (CK 2 has been mentioned - it's pretty much the same thing). I for once draw a lot of fun out of the idea to be able to totally customize my game to my tastes. But in order to do that successfully, I need to know how - and there the game (or rather the manual) fails me somewhat. To get back on topic: If you are itching to write something (even a rough draft), here are three empty pages that shouldn't be too hard to fill for somebody who has attained Hall of Famer status on this board: Injury Basics: When where and how are injuries used.Any takers? |
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05-11-2013, 12:37 PM | #42 |
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Unless you are willing to do some of the leg work and lead by "doing" I doubt that you will see this project come to fruition. However, I'd be happy to help. But before that is going to happen, where's your contribution?
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05-11-2013, 12:53 PM | #44 | |
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I believe it is absolutely fair to offer give this "project" some direction and editing - because those things I can do. Having to research stuff, other, more experienced players can probably write up much more easily is inefficient. Yes, I am a little bit angry. @The Wolf: Dear canine, for someone who obviously has been around the forum for quite a while, and especially counting the number of your posts in this thread, you have contributed nothing that would help achieve the task at hand. One might even think you were a naysayer by nature. Why don't YOU write up on of those little texts? Shouldn't take you longer than your posts. |
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05-11-2013, 01:13 PM | #45 |
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Now, my good friend, I'm not attacking you. Please don't think I am. I can appreciate you having a busy life. Me? I'm busy writing dynasty reports at the moment.
But, if I see the snow ball rolling I'll jump aboard. I'd hate to waste my time contributing to something that hasn't even been worked on by it's author. As far as being the Chief...I wish you a lot of indians. Good luck in your endeavor I really hope that you find enough people ready to commit their time when you are unable (through no fault of your own) to contribute your own time. Sincerely...best wishes.
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05-11-2013, 01:19 PM | #46 |
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I would submit that he has done something.
He took the initiative to put his ideas together and is now promoting them. He's organized his ideas and taken suggestions. He's taken the time to do some research in the manual to see what's missing and came up with a good starting point. He's spent his own time and energy, which he doesn't appear to have a lot to spare. Personally, I commend him for tackling this and doing what he has thus far. Maybe some people feel that until he writes one of these articles he isn't doing anything. He's not a vet of OOTP, he's already explained that. So how would someone without the knowledge/experience write an article? He's correct, veteran users of the game are the ones who should be contributing, that's where the knowledge and experience is. At the end of the day, you can contribute to the project or shrug your shoulders and not care about it. I see no reason for anyone to keep questioning his why/methods of doing this. If you don't care about the manual/user guide, move on to the next thread. Some people do care about it and are trying to do something about it. A lot more than can be said for the nay-sayers. |
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I can respect that.
It doesn't mean that I don't find it amusing, however.
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05-11-2013, 01:41 PM | #48 | |
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The manual is good for explaining general concepts and the nuts-and-bolts of the game ("if you press this button, it will do this"), but doesn't give much help with strategy. The Wiki is good for explaining how everything fits together, as well as providing some basic strategy tips ("if you press this button, you may also need to press this other button"), but can be daunting to the beginner. The forum is good for more in-depth strategy tips ("which button is the best?"), but is disorganized and not much use if you need help immediately. The "how-to" videos are great for the beginner ("there's a button?"), but impossible as reference sources. Each performs a useful function -- that's why they all co-exist. I get the sense that you just want a manual. Manuals are nice, but they're not everything. I'd like an OOTP manual too, but that doesn't mean that a manual is necessarily better than a Wiki or a forum or a video. By asking the gamer community to help out, I think what you're really aiming for is better accomplished by the OOTP Wiki rather than the manual. The manual is, for better or worse, the company's product. The Wiki should be the community's product. If the company can't produce a manual, I don't think it's the community's task to write one for it. |
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05-13-2013, 02:16 PM | #53 |
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Which is the only way it's going to work, wikis aside. Wikis are good for walk throughs and strategy hints. For nuts and bolts on how stuff works, I want a manual straight from or at least guided by official sources.
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And now we return you to the normal state of OOTP documentation...
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