Official MLB license is HUGE for OOTP developments, but I have to ask.. - Page 3

jpeters1734 · 01-23-2015, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jabrown6940

Does this mean that a non-real league named player could be suspended for drugs while playing in a MLB structured game?

No, he said once the MLB structure is in the save, those features will be disabled for the save.

Matt Arnold · 01-23-2015, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Gai1997

Okay so just drug suspensions? So we will still have the wacky stories where a player slipped in the shower and broke a bone and is out for the season? I would hate have those types of things gone.

Those will definitely stay

jabrown6940 · 01-23-2015, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jpeters1734

No, he said once the MLB structure is in the save, those features will be disabled for the save.

Ok, so the "and" in his quote should have been an "or".

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

As soon as you use the real MLB structure and real league name in a game the drug suspensions are gone.

Thank you for the clarification.

BIG17EASY · 01-23-2015, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jabrown6940

Ok, so the "and" in his quote should have been an "or".

Thank you for the clarification.

I'm not sure about this. It's quite easy to set up a fully fictional league with the MLB structure.

Habsfan18 · 01-23-2015, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by .Cole.

I *may* only be able to crank out half a million Matt, unfortunately

Cole, I take it you're not really removing any storylines (except drug related ones) and only adding to the hundreds already there?

For me, the more the better. And I do like the ones that are already in the game.

Thanks!

Cryomaniac · 01-23-2015, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

I'm not sure about this. It's quite easy to set up a fully fictional league with the MLB structure.

How I read it was that it only applies if you have the exact MLB structure and call the league "MLB"or "Major League Baseball". So if you make a league with the MLB structure but call it the American Baseball League you'll be fine.

Ankit · 01-23-2015, 06:24 PM

I remember back in the days of OOTP 3/4/5 that one of the fears we had of getting an MLB license would be of losing the use of money for player contracts When I saw this in the inbox today, my first question was what had to be sacrificed and a huge huge relief when it turned out to be only the drug related stories! Great work and congrats Markus and the rest of the team!!!

Gai1997 · 01-23-2015, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ankit

I remember back in the days of OOTP 3/4/5 that one of the fears we had of getting an MLB license would be of losing the use of money for player contracts When I saw this in the inbox today, my first question was what had to be sacrificed and a huge huge relief when it turned out to be only the drug related stories! Great work and congrats Markus and the rest of the team!!!

What do you mean by that? No player contracts? The game wouldn't be good if that was the case.

jpeters1734 · 01-23-2015, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Gai1997

What do you mean by that? No player contracts? The game wouldn't be good if that was the case.

yeah like in mlb the show, they can't use real contracts

Lukas Berger · 01-23-2015, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jpeters1734

yeah like in mlb the show, they can't use real contracts

Hmm. Never heard that. Can't or just don't want to?

Anyhow, thankfully it's not an issue for OOTP.

Gai1997 · 01-23-2015, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lukasberger

Hmm. Never heard that. Can't or just don't want to?

Anyhow, thankfully it's not an issue for OOTP.

That's always been my issue with those games.

I doubt Markus and his team would've agreed to a license if it meant taking away realism of that magnitude out of the game.

Cryomaniac · 01-23-2015, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by lukasberger

Hmm. Never heard that. Can't or just don't want to?

Anyhow, thankfully it's not an issue for OOTP.

I'm guessing that's more a MLBPA thing than an MLB thing.

Lukas Berger · 01-23-2015, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

I'm guessing that's more a MLBPA thing than an MLB thing.

Oh, that could be. If so it's a reason not to get the MLBPA license in the future.

Cryomaniac · 01-24-2015, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by lukasberger

Oh, that could be. If so it's a reason not to get the MLBPA license in the future.

My guess is that their argument amounts to "a player's salary is personal information". I can see what they mean from a trade unionist point of view, but it is a bit of a ridiculous position to take for someone in the public eye.

bwburke94 · 01-24-2015, 01:48 PM

I play with drug suspensions off anyway because they were implemented badly in 15, so this doesn't affect me, but I do have a question.

What constitutes "real MLB structure/name" for the purposes of this rule? I assume anything containing the string "MLB" or beginning with the string "Major League" counts for name purposes, but it's a bit fuzzy as to how the structure purposes will work considering MLB hasn't kept the same structure forever.

RchW · 01-24-2015, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

My guess is that their argument amounts to "a player's salary is personal information". I can see what they mean from a trade unionist point of view, but it is a bit of a ridiculous position to take for someone in the public eye.

Cot's contracts and other sites like MLBTR essentially makes salaries like box scores. The information is published and in the public domain so no claim of privacy can be made.

Lukas Berger · 01-24-2015, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RchW

Cot's contracts and other sites like MLBTR essentially makes salaries like box scores. The information is published and in the public domain so no claim of privacy can be made.

That would be my take, but a lawyer might say something different.

Cryomaniac · 01-24-2015, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RchW

Cot's contracts and other sites like MLBTR essentially makes salaries like box scores. The information is published and in the public domain so no claim of privacy can be made.

Indeed, and I doubt the MLBPA would win if they took them to court over it (which is presumably why they haven't), but if you have an MLBPA license you would have to abide by the terms of that license, one of which would likely be "don't use real contracts".

RchW · 01-24-2015, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

Indeed, and I doubt the MLBPA would win if they took them to court over it (which is presumably why they haven't), but if you have an MLBPA license you would have to abide by the terms of that license, one of which would likely be "don't use real contracts".

An MLBPA license has been specifically ruled out.

Lukas Berger · 01-24-2015, 07:49 PM

I wouldn't say this is entirely "ruling it out" beyond this year.

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Originally Posted by dmytron

So are you planning on MLBPA license or is it out of question?

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Not this year, that's for sure. I dunno what will happen in the future.

01-23-2015, 06:24 PM	#47
Ankit All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 603	I remember back in the days of OOTP 3/4/5 that one of the fears we had of getting an MLB license would be of losing the use of money for player contracts When I saw this in the inbox today, my first question was what had to be sacrificed and a huge huge relief when it turned out to be only the drug related stories! Great work and congrats Markus and the rest of the team!!!

01-24-2015, 01:48 PM	#55
bwburke94 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belchertown, MA, USA Posts: 4,447	I play with drug suspensions off anyway because they were implemented badly in 15, so this doesn't affect me, but I do have a question. What constitutes "real MLB structure/name" for the purposes of this rule? I assume anything containing the string "MLB" or beginning with the string "Major League" counts for name purposes, but it's a bit fuzzy as to how the structure purposes will work considering MLB hasn't kept the same structure forever.