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09-12-2019, 09:32 PM | #1 |
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Real Life Historical Owners
The game has real life historical players and managers. Why not real life historical owners too? One of the teams I was GM for once had an owner who hailed from Hawaii. I suppose this would be okay if I had been playing a recent season but I was playing one in the 1920s. An owner from Hawaii? Good grief.
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09-13-2019, 12:53 PM | #2 |
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I'd love to see the owner influence expanded, as too often it seems we're handed a check for $XX and told, "Go forth and conquer." I can't even imagine the coding nightmare that would ensue to accomplish it.
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09-14-2019, 11:31 AM | #3 | |
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First thing would be to make a list of all historical owners. I'm not sure if that data is available. In some cases its hard to figure out who was in charge when you have an estate or an equal partnership. Would be nice to have an option for a family estate or for companies. |
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09-21-2019, 12:24 PM | #4 |
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Coaches, also.
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09-21-2019, 01:14 PM | #5 | |
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A problem for OOTP would be those instances when teams were owned by corporations, like when the Yankees were owned by CBS or the Cubs were owned by the Tribune Co. Right now, all of the news stories and notifications presume that a human being is the owner. So you could get a notice saying: "CBS has looked at your roster and he thinks you should get a new third baseman." Also, OOTP would need to include the option for female pronouns for those occasions when women owned teams, such as Marge Schott (Reds) and Helene Britton (Cardinals). |
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09-22-2019, 11:48 AM | #6 |
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The edit owner feature has a female option you can choose only the picture doesn't look much like a female. The female picture wears a baseball cap and the faces are a little softer but otherwise it looks like a male. Then again, Marge Schott...…...
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09-22-2019, 11:55 AM | #7 | |
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What is mopre of a problem is when an estate owns the team. I just put the family name as first name and Estate as last. Unless i can find out who was in charge of the estate or running the team. |
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09-23-2019, 09:10 AM | #8 | |
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And are you suggesting that Marge Schott wasn't a beautiful person? |
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09-23-2019, 09:25 AM | #9 | |
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Usually when a trust or a consortium owns a franchise there's someone who is the "face" of that team. After all, somebody has to attend league meetings. For instance, in the wake of Tom Yawkey's death the Red Sox were owned by a trust that he set up. His widow, Jean Yawkey, was one of the trustees and was the most visible representative of the team's ownership. Technically, the trust owned the team, but if you had to point to someone as the owner, it would have been her. Likewise, Bill Veeck sold the White Sox (the second time) to a group led by Jerry Reinsdorf and Eddie Einhorn. Reinsdorf quickly became the most active member of the group and is now generally regarded as the "owner," even though I don't know if he has ever held more than a 50% stake in the franchise. And the aforementioned Veeck never held a majority interest in any of the clubs that he ran. |
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09-23-2019, 06:05 PM | #10 | |
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I kinda figured you could use the head of the trust but is that information still available? How bout the Yankees with DanTopping and Del Webb. I lean towards Topping since he was president of the club. I'm surprised that Bill James or some other baseball writer hasn't put out a book of owners in baseball history. |
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09-24-2019, 11:08 AM | #11 | ||
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I imagine that SABR will put out a book once its team-ownership history project is completed. |
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09-28-2019, 01:44 PM | #12 | |
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09-28-2019, 09:45 PM | #13 |
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I know Hawaii was around in the 1920's, Junior. But unless there were minor league teams in Hawaii back then there were no owners from Hawaii. It makes no damn sense at all to have a team owner of a New York franchise hail from Hawaii. Just because it was possible don't mean it was probable. Good grief.
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09-29-2019, 12:34 AM | #14 |
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Not sure if it matters where an owner is from. Owners dont always come from the city of the team they own. George Steinbrenner was born in Ohio and owned the Yankees.
I can see a guy born in Hawaii and moving to LA or Chicago owning a team. I do find it harder to believe an owner born in Hawaii and who stayed there before the tv age getting interested in becoming an owner of a baseball team. But if a league has any type of fictional element like random players or fictional players, does it matter if a fictional owner comes from Hawaii? It doesnt matter in a strictly historical league as you would be using historical owners. |
09-29-2019, 09:05 AM | #15 | |
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