Live Update Questions

jparker2112 · 03-28-2019, 08:09 AM

OK..I LOVE this aspect but have some questions. I started a 2019 game yesterday. I know the rosters wont be changed for OD until monday perhaps but it got me thinking....
1) when/if im further down the road in my league vs when the roster update and live update is..well updated will that affect my game?
2) if i did a fantasy draft and say Morales is on SF...will he be moved to OAK then?
3) does the live update have a push button or is it automatic?

Matt Arnold · 03-28-2019, 08:15 AM

There's 2 live updating ways: one is to start a new game and that that populated with data. The other is updates to games in progress. For your inquiries:
1) You need to manually select to update, and updates in progress will only change ratings. So if you don't want any changes, don't hit the button and you're safe. If you want changes, just hit the button to update whenever you want to see updated ratings
2) If you do a fantasy draft, that happens any initial live setup, so no MLB roster moves will matter
3) You need to manually decide when to update ratings. Nothing in it is pushed to you.

jparker2112 · 03-28-2019, 08:39 AM

excellent and thanks for such a quick response!!!

jbergey22 · 03-28-2019, 12:28 PM

I dont really understand live update. It doesnt seem to get updated very often. Just on the O's. Trumbo was put on the 60 day DL a few days ago. Bleier isnt hurt while Cobb is. I havent even bothered to look through the other teams. I was hoping to simulate today but it doesnt look possible without fixing a ton of stuff.

I was under the impression that the transactions are updated daily.

mgom27 · 03-28-2019, 04:19 PM

Yes some of the moves past Eric Kratz one aren't their.

Neags23 · 03-29-2019, 10:27 AM

Matt, you mentioned "updates in progress only change ratings"... what does that mean? Are players not moved around based on real life transactions?

The button in the UI only mentions ratings as well, so I'm guessing this whole feature (for existing games) is ratings only, not team transactions/updated rosters? So to get updated rosters, you'd need to start a new game?

MizzouRah · 03-29-2019, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Neags23

Matt, you mentioned "updates in progress only change ratings"... what does that mean? Are players not moved around based on real life transactions?

The button in the UI only mentions ratings as well, so I'm guessing this whole feature (for existing games) is ratings only, not team transactions/updated rosters? So to get updated rosters, you'd need to start a new game?

ONLY ratings in current games, to get the moves and other stuff you "must" start a new MLB game.

Neags23 · 03-29-2019, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

ONLY ratings in current games, to get the moves and other stuff you "must" start a new MLB game.

Thanks for the clarification.

This is a little disappointing. Any idea if that will be a coming feature, to update rosters of existing games?

Matt Arnold · 03-29-2019, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Neags23

Thanks for the clarification.

This is a little disappointing. Any idea if that will be a coming feature, to update rosters of existing games?

We may open it up later, but it gets more confusing how things should work. For example, if you started a game, and in your game Toronto traded Pillar to the Reds, but then in real life they trade him to the Mets, should your game update him to the new team? What about the return that Toronto got, I guess they have to go back to the old team?

Plus as mentioned, we're still working with our data provider, and with the first year with them, we're learning how their system works. There's a few things with that that will actually make it a little harder to process transactions than we initially thought, so we may need a little more time to handle some of these transactions issues and have it more reliably move players between teams.

Neags23 · 03-29-2019, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

We may open it up later, but it gets more confusing how things should work. For example, if you started a game, and in your game Toronto traded Pillar to the Reds, but then in real life they trade him to the Mets, should your game update him to the new team? What about the return that Toronto got, I guess they have to go back to the old team?

Plus as mentioned, we're still working with our data provider, and with the first year with them, we're learning how their system works. There's a few things with that that will actually make it a little harder to process transactions than we initially thought, so we may need a little more time to handle some of these transactions issues and have it more reliably move players between teams.

That makes a lot of sense. I know I'm just one in a sea of many, but the way I pictured it/hoped it would work is that when you update, it literally becomes a snapshot of the current real world day. So anything you've simmed essentially gets overwritten. Maybe that's not what other people would want, but I think that'd be amazing to use as a simulation for fantasy or... "vegas"... purposes, to get an idea of what OOTP thinks will happen with the matchups of the current day.

Matt Arnold · 03-29-2019, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Neags23

That makes a lot of sense. I know I'm just one in a sea of many, but the way I pictured it/hoped it would work is that when you update, it literally becomes a snapshot of the current real world day. So anything you've simmed essentially gets overwritten. Maybe that's not what other people would want, but I think that'd be amazing to use as a simulation for fantasy or... "vegas"... purposes, to get an idea of what OOTP thinks will happen with the matchups of the current day.

You can do that if you start a new game, where you get a snapshot view of today (or even any day up before opening day).

Neags23 · 03-29-2019, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

You can do that if you start a new game, where you get a snapshot view of today (or even any day up before opening day).

Yep, for sure. It just takes a little while to start up the new game (I know, first world problems

).

tellitB · 03-29-2019, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

We may open it up later, but it gets more confusing how things should work. For example, if you started a game, and in your game Toronto traded Pillar to the Reds, but then in real life they trade him to the Mets, should your game update him to the new team? What about the return that Toronto got, I guess they have to go back to the old team?

Plus as mentioned, we're still working with our data provider, and with the first year with them, we're learning how their system works. There's a few things with that that will actually make it a little harder to process transactions than we initially thought, so we may need a little more time to handle some of these transactions issues and have it more reliably move players between teams.

Would it be something like where we can turn off all trades and follow Major League rosters only? Therefore, no teams will do anything unless it happens in real life. It can be option that someone can turn on or off when they start their new game.

MizzouRah · 03-29-2019, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tellitB

Would it be something like where we can turn off all trades and follow Major League rosters only? Therefore, no teams will do anything unless it happens in real life. It can be option that someone can turn on or off when they start their new game.

That would maybe work for the 2019 season or played just that particular day that's the same as RL MLB. Once you get past 2019 and players retire, age, etc.. I doubt that it would work or at least I have no idea how that could work.

I believe the purpose was to start a new league and have an accurate world that mirrors the current MLB up to the same day.

The other option is to start your league and get rating updates so the players tend to follow real world statistics.

TPinrose · 03-29-2019, 03:34 PM

Full disclosure, I don't play solo anymore.

I'm not sure what the selling point of this feature is. From what I can see, you can update player ratings based on stats. Personally, I wouldn't want to alter my league that way but some may. If I start a new game half way through the season it may be fun to see if I can change the fortunes of my favorite team, but I'm guessing that many will wish to play out 2019 if they want to start a new league that they will roll over into the next version. Some may wish to start a league after the 2019 season with accurate rosters and play into 2020.

In all these cases, I would say that those who buy a new a version and play through a couple seasons then start again might be happiest with live services. I have no idea how many people that is. If I'm missing something, please tell me.

Edouard236 · 05-13-2019, 05:30 AM

Turning on Live Start allows players to start a season with the current, real-world rosters and records for all MLB teams. I found this to be a fairly simple, yet cool feature that helps make each game more organic and realistic clean master apk.

strzepeksc · 05-13-2019, 08:34 AM

Disregard my error

Vaspirate · 09-01-2019, 12:44 PM

can anyone tell me where to find the update option? I would love to play as the Reds but since OOTP dogs them so badly in the original rosters it makes them a challenge to play.

03-28-2019, 08:09 AM	#1
jparker2112 All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Denver CO Posts: 800 Blog Entries: 1	Live Update Questions OK..I LOVE this aspect but have some questions. I started a 2019 game yesterday. I know the rosters wont be changed for OD until monday perhaps but it got me thinking.... 1) when/if im further down the road in my league vs when the roster update and live update is..well updated will that affect my game? 2) if i did a fantasy draft and say Morales is on SF...will he be moved to OAK then? 3) does the live update have a push button or is it automatic?

03-28-2019, 04:19 PM	#5
mgom27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,520	Yes some of the moves past Eric Kratz one aren't their. __________________ Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

03-29-2019, 10:27 AM	#6
Neags23 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,577	Matt, you mentioned "updates in progress only change ratings"... what does that mean? Are players not moved around based on real life transactions? The button in the UI only mentions ratings as well, so I'm guessing this whole feature (for existing games) is ratings only, not team transactions/updated rosters? So to get updated rosters, you'd need to start a new game? __________________ GM Havana Sugar Kings, World Baseball League - 2000, 2003, 2005 WBL Champions Former GM Washburn Sea Wolves Dog Days Baseball - 1981 & 1986 Kennel Cup Champions

05-13-2019, 05:30 AM	#16
Edouard236 Bat Boy Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 1	Turning on Live Start allows players to start a season with the current, real-world rosters and records for all MLB teams. I found this to be a fairly simple, yet cool feature that helps make each game more organic and realistic clean master apk. Last edited by Edouard236; 05-14-2019 at 08:03 AM.

05-13-2019, 08:34 AM	#17
strzepeksc All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 628	Live Update Fails Disregard my error Last edited by strzepeksc; 05-13-2019 at 09:07 AM. Reason: I was wrong

03-28-2019, 08:15 AM	#2
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 14,143	There's 2 live updating ways: one is to start a new game and that that populated with data. The other is updates to games in progress. For your inquiries: 1) You need to manually select to update, and updates in progress will only change ratings. So if you don't want any changes, don't hit the button and you're safe. If you want changes, just hit the button to update whenever you want to see updated ratings 2) If you do a fantasy draft, that happens any initial live setup, so no MLB roster moves will matter 3) You need to manually decide when to update ratings. Nothing in it is pushed to you.

03-28-2019, 08:39 AM	#3
jparker2112 All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Denver CO Posts: 800 Blog Entries: 1	excellent and thanks for such a quick response!!!

03-28-2019, 12:28 PM	#4
jbergey22 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,481	I dont really understand live update. It doesnt seem to get updated very often. Just on the O's. Trumbo was put on the 60 day DL a few days ago. Bleier isnt hurt while Cobb is. I havent even bothered to look through the other teams. I was hoping to simulate today but it doesnt look possible without fixing a ton of stuff. I was under the impression that the transactions are updated daily.

03-29-2019, 03:34 PM	#15
TPinrose Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 199	Full disclosure, I don't play solo anymore. I'm not sure what the selling point of this feature is. From what I can see, you can update player ratings based on stats. Personally, I wouldn't want to alter my league that way but some may. If I start a new game half way through the season it may be fun to see if I can change the fortunes of my favorite team, but I'm guessing that many will wish to play out 2019 if they want to start a new league that they will roll over into the next version. Some may wish to start a league after the 2019 season with accurate rosters and play into 2020. In all these cases, I would say that those who buy a new a version and play through a couple seasons then start again might be happiest with live services. I have no idea how many people that is. If I'm missing something, please tell me.

09-01-2019, 12:44 PM	#18
Vaspirate Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 9	can anyone tell me where to find the update option? I would love to play as the Reds but since OOTP dogs them so badly in the original rosters it makes them a challenge to play.