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Old 02-09-2014, 04:44 AM   #1
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Playoff rotations

is there any settings i can adjust to have the computer use 4-man rotations in the playoffs? every team uses a 3-man rotation. a few teams using 3 is ok but i would prefer it if the 4-man rotation was the norm
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Old 02-09-2014, 07:11 AM   #2
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What is your rotation setting for the regular season?

In my current league, I have 5 man rotation during the regular season, when the play-offs begin AI controlled teams all go to 4 man.

Not sure if the regular season setting has any bearing on this, but that is what I am seeing.

Note - I have not tried setting regular season to 4 man to see if the AI goes to 3 man in play-offs.
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Old 02-09-2014, 02:05 PM   #3
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every team uses 5 in the regular season
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Old 02-09-2014, 05:50 PM   #4
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What is your rotation setting for the regular season?

In my current league, I have 5 man rotation during the regular season, when the play-offs begin AI controlled teams all go to 4 man.

Not sure if the regular season setting has any bearing on this, but that is what I am seeing.

Note - I have not tried setting regular season to 4 man to see if the AI goes to 3 man in play-offs.
Wait, really? How'd you manage that one? I have a standard MLB setup (so 5-man rotations) and I'm forced to set the AI's rotations myself every playoffs, because they default to 3-man rotations. It's something I've asked to be fixed for years now.
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i found one way to move to 4-man, but this is likely not the answer you want, i made all series 7-game...
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Wait, really? How'd you manage that one? I have a standard MLB setup (so 5-man rotations) and I'm forced to set the AI's rotations myself every playoffs, because they default to 3-man rotations. It's something I've asked to be fixed for years now.
Well, I didn't manage anything to be honest. It's a fictional league, and I just happened to notice it when I was checking rotations of play-off teams.

I always check to see if the AI is "resting" their ace (not starting him the last couple days) unless of course they need to.

I notice every year they are always set to 4 man when the season ends and play-offs are about to begin. Maybe it's just pure luck, because I don't change any settings.



Note - just noticed le receveur's post. My play-offs are 2 rounds, both are best of 7, so maybe that has something to do with it?

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Note - just noticed le receveur's post. My play-offs are 2 rounds, both are best of 7, so maybe that has something to do with it?
That's got to be it. Even in non-MLB setups, my first round is never 7 games. Maybe the rotation size is determined by the length of the first series? That would be weird, but it seems like it might be the case.
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that is disappointing
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That's got to be it. Even in non-MLB setups, my first round is never 7 games. Maybe the rotation size is determined by the length of the first series? That would be weird, but it seems like it might be the case.
pretty sure it's by the length of the actual serie. so if your first one is 5 game it's a 3-men, but if the next one is 7-game it changes to 4-men....
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pretty sure it's by the length of the actual serie. so if your first one is 5 game it's a 3-men, but if the next one is 7-game it changes to 4-men....
I've never seen it change, though. Granted, every playoff I've run in OOTP14 I've manually set every team's rotation, so it could have been changed for this release and I wouldn't have seen it. But I'm fairly certain that, in OOTP13, it was always locked into a 3-man rotation for me.

EDIT: Gonna run a test league and check.

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pretty sure it's by the length of the actual serie. so if your first one is 5 game it's a 3-men, but if the next one is 7-game it changes to 4-men....
FWIW, I'm pretty sure that's the way it is in v12 and v14. That's not how it should be, tho. The AI should, depending upon the era, do what RL managers do, which is set each rotation based upon various factors, including the health and rest status of the SP's, who's hot & who's not, off days during the series (which, unfortunately, are cookie-cutter in OOTP), SP's durability, and the depth of the starting staff. It should be dynamic, too, meaning that the playoff rotation would not be set in stone and could change, if, for example, the Ace leaves game one due to a minor injury and is able to throw in game three. Or that a three-man rotation could change to a four-man one if a team goes up three-games-to none.

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FWIW, I'm pretty sure that's the way it is in v12 and v14. That's not how it should be, tho. The AI should, depending upon the era, do what RL managers do, which is set each rotation based upon various factors, including the health and rest status of the SP's, who's hot & who's not, off days during the series (which, unfortunately, are cookie-cutter in OOTP), SP's durability, and the depth of the starting staff. It should be dynamic, too, meaning that the playoff rotation would not be set in stone and could change, if, for example, the Ace leaves game one due to a minor injury and is able to throw in game three. Or that a three-man rotation could change to a four-man one if a team goes up three-games-to none.

I agree, and in the last game your starter best starter who pitched 3 days ago should be available to come in in the 9th, (and give up a HR.. :-(.)...

playoff management is something that can get improvement...
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I agree, and in the last game your starter best starter who pitched 3 days ago should be available to come in in the 9th, (and give up a HR.. :-(.)...
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playoff management is something that can get improvement...
Absolootely! It should be at or near the top of the list.
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pretty sure it's by the length of the actual serie. so if your first one is 5 game it's a 3-men, but if the next one is 7-game it changes to 4-men....
I just checked my league and it went to a 3 man rotation for the LDS. I 'll let ya know when I get to the LCS
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It's starting the highest rested starter, which is usually a 3 man rotation in the playoffs due to off days.
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is there any settings i can adjust to have the computer use 4-man rotations in the playoffs? every team uses a 3-man rotation. a few teams using 3 is ok but i would prefer it if the 4-man rotation was the norm

This is a high priority item. AI Teams using 3-man rotations is a big advantage to human players.
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It's starting the highest rested starter, which is usually a 3 man rotation in the playoffs due to off days.
so if it's the highest rested starter, why is it that on a 5-game serie the no.1 pitcher is rested for game 4, but on a 7-game serie he is not. Both series game 4 happen on day 5, same travel schedule.
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