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OOTP 18 - Historical Simulations Discuss historical simulations and their results in this forum. |
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09-07-2017, 06:49 AM | #21 |
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League 1-5 Results:
Original League 1 Standings: 1. 1968 St. Louis Cardinals, 150-90 (+2) 2. 1930 Philadelphia Athletics, 144-96 (+10) 3. 2001 San Francisco Giants, 141-99 (+2) 4. 1976 Cincinnati Reds, 137-103 (-1) 5. 1939 New York Yankees, 135-105 (-4) 6. 1966 Los Angeles Dodgers, 134-106 (-2) 7. 1979 Pittsburgh Pirates, 134-106 (+7) 8. 2016 Los Angeles Dodgers, 133-107 (+3) 9. 2002 Arizona Diamondbacks, 133-107 (+4) 10. 1992 Montreal Expos, 133-107 (+9) 11. 1962 New York Yankees, 131-109 (+7) 12. 1915 Philadelphia Phillies, 131-109 (0) 13. 1965 San Francisco Giants, 130-110 (+1) 14. 1938 New York Yankees, 130-110 (-3) 15. 1934 Detroit Tigers, 129-111 (+5) 16. 1956 Chicago White Sox, 128-112 (-3) The 1960 Chicago White Sox, the 1910 Boston Red Sox, the 1908 New York Giants, 1923 Cleveland Indians and the 1982 Pittsburgh Pirates all put up a good enough record that they'll likely advance. The 1993 Houston Astros are on the fence. Original League 2 Standings: 1. 2014 Washington Nationals, 146-94 (+1) 2. 2002 Atlanta Braves, 145-95 (+13) 3. 1957 Chicago White Sox, 143-97 (-6) 4. 1925 Washington Senators, 136-104 (+10) 5. 1969 Pittsburgh Pirates, 136-104 (+1) 6. 2014 Los Angeles Dodgers, 136-104 (-4) 7. 1971 Baltimore Orioles, 136-104 (-3) 8. 1984 Houston Astros, 134-106 (+10) 9. 1971 Pittsburgh Pirates, 134-106 (-9) 10. 1904 Cleveland Naps, 133-107 (+4) 11. 1995 Cincinnati Reds, 133-107 (-6) 12. 1962 Pittsburgh Pirates, 131-109 (+2) 13. 1962 Los Angeles Dodgers, 130-110 (-3) 14. 1909 Chicago Cubs, 130-110 (-1) 15. 2013 St. Louis Cardinals, 130-110 (-2) 16. 1969 New York Mets, 129-111 (-3) The 1908 Chicago Cubs and the 1990 Montreal Expos will very likely advance, despite not making the playoffs. Playoffs: Qualifying Round: The 1968 St. Louis Cardinals (1) sweep the 1956 Chicago White Sox (16) four games to zero The 2016 Los Angeles Dodgers (8) defeat the 2002 Arizona Diamondbacks (9) four games to two The 1939 New York Yankees (5) defeat the 1915 Philadelphia Phillies (12) four games to two The 1976 Cincinnati Reds (4) defeat the 1965 San Francisco Giants (13) four games to three The 2001 San Francisco Giants (3) defeat the 1938 New York Yankees (14) four games to three The 1962 New York Yankees (11) upset the 1966 Los Angeles Dodgers (6) four games to two The 1979 Pittsburgh Pirates (7) defeat the 1992 Montreal Expos (10) four games to two The 1934 Detroit Tigers (15) upset the 1930 Philadelphia Athletics (2) four games to one The 2014 Washington Nationals (1) defeat the 1969 New York Mets (16) four games to three The 1971 Pittsburgh Pirates (9) upset the 1984 Houston Astros (8) four games to one The 1969 Pittsburgh Pirates (5) defeat the 1962 Pittsburgh Pirates (12) four games to two The 1925 Washington Senators (4) defeat the 1962 Los Angeles Dodgers (13) four games to three The 1957 Chicago White Sox (3) defeat the 1909 Chicago Cubs (14) four games to one The 1995 Cincinnati Reds (11) upset the 2014 Los Angeles Dodgers (6) four games to one The 1971 Baltimore Orioles (7) defeat the 1904 Cleveland Naps (10) four games to one The 2002 Atlanta Braves (2) defeat the 2013 St. Louis Cardinals (15) four games to two Sweet Sixteen: The 1968 St. Louis Cardinals (1) defeat the 2016 Los Angeles Dodgers four games to one The 1976 Cincinnati Reds (4) defeat the 1939 New York Yankees (5) four games to one The 1962 New York Yankees (11) upset the 2001 San Francisco Giants (3) four games to two The 1979 Pittsburgh Pirates (7) defeat the 1934 Detroit Tigers (15) four games to one The 1971 Pittsburgh Pirates (9) upset the 2014 Washington Nationals (1) four games to three The 1969 Pittsburgh Pirates (5) upset the 1925 Washington Senators (4) four games to three The 1995 Cincinnati Reds (11) upset the 1957 Chicago White Sox (3) four games to one The 1971 Baltimore Orioles (7) upset the 2002 Atlanta Braves (2) four games to three Elite Eight: The 1968 St. Louis Cardinals (1) defeat the 1976 Cincinnati Reds (4) four games to three The 1979 Pittsburgh Pirates (7) defeat the 1962 New York Yankees (11) four games to one The 1969 Pittsburgh Pirates (5) defeat the 1971 Pittsburgh Pirates (9) four games to one The 1971 Baltimore Orioles (7) defeat the 1995 Cincinnati Reds (11) four games to one Pennant Series: The 1968 St. Louis Cardinals (1) defeat the 1979 Pittsburgh Pirates (7) four games to three The 1971 Baltimore Orioles (7) upset the 1969 Pittsburgh Pirates (5) four games to one World Series: The 1968 St. Louis Cardinals (1) defeat the 1971 Baltimore Orioles (7) four games to two |
09-07-2017, 06:50 AM | #22 |
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League 1-6 Team Roster:
Original League: 1902 Boston Americans 1903 Philadelphia Athletics 1906 New York Highlanders 1913 Philadelphia Phillies 1917 New York Giants 1918 Chicago Cubs 1918 Boston Red Sox 1921 New York Giants 1921 Pittsburgh Pirates 1924 Washington Senators 1925 Pittsburgh Pirates 1925 Detroit Tigers 1926 Chicago White Sox 1927 New York Yankees 1927 Philadelphia Athletics 1940 Detroit Tigers 1940 New York Yankees 1940 Cleveland Indians 1942 Boston Red Sox 1943 St. Louis Cardinals 1950 Boston Red Sox 1950 Brooklyn Dodgers 1952 New York Yankees 1953 Brooklyn Dodgers 1958 Cincinnati Reds 1962 St. Louis Cardinals 1965 Detroit Tigers 1967 Baltimore Orioles 1969 Minnesota Twins 1972 Chicago Cubs 1974 Atlanta Braves 1976 Pittsburgh Pirates 1980 Los Angeles Dodgers 1985 New York Mets 1991 Los Angeles Dodgers 1992 Atlanta Braves 1996 St. Louis Cardinals 2001 Atlanta Braves 2007 Colorado Rockies 2007 Philadelphia Phillies 2010 Colorado Rockies 2015 Pittsburgh Pirates The '43 Cardinals should be fun, as should the '53 Dodgers but the clear best team of the league would appear to be the '27 Yankees. Finally. DH League: 1973 Baltimore Orioles 1973 Oakland Athletics 1974 Oakland Athletics 1976 Oakland Athletics 1977 Baltimore Orioles 1982 Milwaukee Brewers 1983 Toronto Blue Jays 1986 California Angels 1986 Toronto Blue Jays 1986 New York Yankees 1989 California Angels 1989 Boston Red Sox 1990 Toronto Blue Jays 1990 Chicago White Sox 1991 Chicago White Sox 1992 Milwaukee Brewers 1992 Chicago White Sox 1994 New York Yankees 1996 Cleveland Indians 2000 New York Yankees 2000 Boston Red Sox 2001 Seattle Mariners 2002 Boston Red Sox 2003 Oakland Athletics 2004 Anaheim Angels 2004 Texas Rangers 2006 Detroit Tigers 2006 Texas Rangers 2006 Boston Red Sox 2007 Boston Red Sox 2008 Los Angeles Angels 2009 Tampa Bay Rays 2009 Oakland Athletics 2010 Minnesota Twins 2010 Toronto Blue Jays 2010 Chicago White Sox 2012 Texas Rangers 2013 Baltimore Orioles 2014 Baltimore Orioles 2015 Cleveland Indians 2016 Cleveland Indians 2016 Baltimore Orioles A few more of the seemingly endless number of high-quality post-2000 Red Sox teams, another great Orioles team ('73) and several of the strong mid-70s A's teams (and the '90 Jays, let us not forget). But I'm the most excited about the 2001 Mariners. One of the best records ever but they get no love in the great teams of all-time discussion because they didn't do well in the playoffs. If this SuperTournament does anything I hope it will be to give the 2001 Mariners their due credit. So if they flame out this round I'll be a sad panda. |
09-07-2017, 06:51 AM | #23 |
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League 1-6 Results:
Original League Standings: 1. 1927 New York Yankees, 144-96 (0) 2. 1969 Minnesota Twins, 141-99 (+1) 3. 1965 Detroit Tigers, 140-100 (+1) 4. 1972 Chicago Cubs, 136-104 (+4) 5. 1921 Pittsburgh Pirates, 134-106 (-1) 6. 1950 Boston Red Sox, 133-107 (0) 7. 2007 Philadelphia Phillies, 132-108 (+2) 8. 2007 Colorado Rockies, 131-109 (+2) 9. 2001 Atlanta Braves, 130-110 (+3) 10. 1953 Brooklyn Dodgers, 130-110 (+2) 11. 1952 New York Yankees, 129-111 (-4) 12. 1940 Detroit Tigers, 129-111 (+2) 13. 2015 Pittsburgh Pirates, 128-112 (+5) 14. 1943 St. Louis Cardinals, 127-113 (-4) 15. 1992 Atlanta Braves, 126-114 (-12) 16. 1985 New York Mets, 125-115 (+1) DH League Standings: 1. 2002 Boston Red Sox, 145-95 (-1) 2. 1996 Cleveland Indians, 140-100 (-3) 3. 1973 Baltimore Orioles, 140-100 (+6) 4. 1986 California Angels, 138-102 (+9) 5. 1986 New York Yankees, 137-103 (+11) 6. 2010 Minnesota Twins, 134-106 (-6) 7. 2007 Boston Red Sox, 133-107 (-4) 8. 1982 Milwaukee Brewers, 131-109 (-2) 9. 2014 Baltimore Orioles, 127-113 (+9) 10. 1990 Toronto Blue Jays, 126-114 (-10) 11. 2001 Seattle Mariners, 126-114 (+2) 12. 2006 Boston Red Sox, 125-115 (+5) 13. 2000 New York Yankees, 124-116 (+1) 14. 1989 Boston Red Sox, 123-117 (-2) 15. 2000 Boston Red Sox, 123-117 (+2) 16. 1974 Oakland Athletics, 122-118 (+1) Note that the #13 through #16 teams had unusually low win totals. Without a playoff series win or two, they are not likely to make the next round. Playoffs: Qualifying Round: The 1927 New York Yankees (1) defeat the 1985 New York Mets (16) four games to three The 2007 Colorado Rockies (8) defeat the 2001 Atlanta Braves (9) four games to one The 1940 Detroit Tigers (12) upset the 1921 Pittsburgh Pirates (5) four games to one The 1972 Chicago Cubs (4) defeat the 2015 Pittsburgh Pirates (13) four games to three The 1965 Detroit Tigers (3) defeat the 1943 St. Louis Cardinals (14) four games to one The 1952 New York Yankees (11) upset the 1950 Boston Red Sox (6) four games to two The 1953 Brooklyn Dodgers (10) upset the 2007 Philadelphia Phillies (7) four games to three The 1969 Minnesota Twins (2) sweep the 1992 Atlanta Braves (15) four games to zero The 2002 Boston Red Sox (1) defeat the 1974 Oakland Athletics (16) four games to two The 1982 Milwaukee Brewers (8) defeat the 2014 Baltimore Orioles (9) four games to three The 2006 Boston Red Sox (12) upset and sweep the 1986 New York Giants (5) four games to zero The 1986 California Angels (4) defeat the 2000 New York Yankees (13) four games to two The 1989 Boston Red Sox (14) upset the 1973 Baltimore Orioles (3) four games to one The 2010 Minnesota Twins (6) defeat the 2001 Seattle Mariners (11) four games to two The 2007 Boston Red Sox (7) defeat the 1990 Toronto Blue Jays (10) four games to two The 1996 Cleveland Indians (2) defeat the 2000 Boston Red Sox (15) four games to one Sweet Sixteen: The 1927 New York Yankees (1) defeat the 2007 Colorado Rockies (8) four games to two The 1940 Detroit Tigers (12) upset the 1972 Chicago Cubs (4) four games to two The 1965 Detroit Tigers (3) defeat the 1952 New York Yankees (11) four games to one The 1953 Brooklyn Dodgers (10) upset the 1969 Minnesota Twins (2) four games to one The 2002 Boston Red Sox (1) defeat the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers (8) four games to two The 1986 California Angels (4) defeat the 2006 Boston Red Sox (12) four games to one The 2010 Minnesota Twins (6) defeat the 1989 Boston Red Sox (14) four games to three The 2007 Boston Red Sox (7) upset the 1996 Cleveland Indians (2) four games to two Elite Eight: The 1927 New York Yankees (1) defeat the 1940 Detroit Tigers (12) four games to two The 1965 Detroit Tigers (3) defeat the 1953 Brooklyn Dodgers (10) four games to two The 2002 Boston Red Sox (1) defeat the 1986 California Angels (4) four games to two The 2010 Minnesota Twins (6) defeat the 2007 Boston Red Sox (7) four games to two Pennant Series: The 1927 New York Yankees (1) defeat the 1965 Detroit Tigers (3) four games to three The 2010 Minnesota Twins (6) upset the 2002 Boston Red Sox (1) four games to three World Series: The 1927 New York Yankees (1) sweep the 2010 Minnesota Twins (6) four games to zero The 1927 Yankees may have won it all, but it wasn't the way you might expect. Their bats were only just above league average, with a wRC+ of 105. Part of it comes from the fact that the '27 Yankees struck out a lot, which becomes more of a liability when the K/AB rate doubles, as it did from 1927 to 1977. But I think some of it's luck. As for the 2001 Mariners . . . I don't really know what to say. Much of it is that their pitching was never great; they relied on decent pitching, really good hitting and great fielding. Perhaps it was bad luck? |
09-07-2017, 06:51 AM | #24 |
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Interesting tidbit. At this point we're 60% through the first round. So far, 29 of the 30 franchises have teams in the next round. The outlier? Tampa Bay! They have two teams in League 1-8, but that will be their only chance. And so far you'd rightly guess that the Yankees have the most teams advancing (24 so far) but you might be surprised to see that the Pirates have the second most teams, not the Red Sox. The other teams that, based on the current estimates, have 10+ in the next round so far are: St. Louis, Cleveland, the Giants and the Tigers.
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09-07-2017, 06:52 AM | #25 |
Minors (Triple A)
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League 1-7 Team Roster:
Original League 1: 1904 Cincinnati Reds 1906 Chicago Cubs 1910 Pittsburgh Pirates 1912 New York Giants 1918 Pittsburgh Pirates 1919 Cleveland Indians 1920 Brooklyn Robins 1924 Detroit Tigers 1929 New York Giants 1931 New York Giants 1932 Chicago Cubs 1933 Washington Senators 1933 New York Giants 1935 St. Louis Cardinals 1935 New York Giants 1942 New York Yankees 1947 St. Louis Cardinals 1947 Boston Braves 1947 Boston Red Sox 1948 Cleveland Indians 1948 Boston Braves 1949 St. Louis Cardinals 1954 New York Giants 1954 Milwaukee Braves 1957 St. Louis Cardinals 1959 Chicago White Sox 1962 Detroit Tigers 1964 Chicago White Sox 1964 St. Louis Cardinals 1965 Los Angeles Dodgers 1965 Cleveland Indians 1966 Baltimore Orioles 1969 Detroit Tigers 1969 Los Angeles Dodgers 1969 San Francisco Giants 1970 Los Angeles Dodgers 1974 Los Angeles Dodgers 1981 Houston Astros 1984 Pittsburgh Pirates 1988 Los Angeles Dodgers 1989 New York Mets 1994 Atlanta Braves 1995 Atlanta Braves 1999 Cincinnati Reds 2000 Los Angeles Dodgers 2004 Chicago Cubs 2005 Houston Astros 2009 Los Angeles Dodgers Original League 2: 1901 Boston Americans 1904 Boston Americans 1904 New York Highlanders 1907 Chicago White Sox 1909 Detroit Tigers 1912 Philadelphia Athletics 1915 Detroit Tigers 1916 Chicago White Sox 1917 Boston Red Sox 1918 Cleveland Indians 1920 New York Yankees 1921 New York Yankees 1922 St. Louis Browns 1927 Chicago Cubs 1931 Chicago Cubs 1933 New York Yankees 1938 Chicago Cubs 1943 New York Yankees 1944 St. Louis Browns 1944 New York Yankees 1946 Boston Red Sox 1947 New York Giants 1955 New York Yankees 1959 New York Giants 1959 Boston Red Sox 1962 Milwaukee Braves 1963 Los Angeles Dodgers 1963 Cincinnati Reds 1964 New York Yankees 1964 San Francisco Giants 1966 Chicago White Sox 1970 Oakland Athletics 1974 Cincinnati Reds 1980 Houston Astros 1985 St. Louis Cardinals 1989 San Francisco Giants 1992 Cincinnati Reds 1992 St. Louis Cardinals 1997 Atlanta Braves 1998 New York Mets 2000 Atlanta Braves 2002 Los Angeles Dodgers 2003 Houston Astros 2003 St. Louis Cardinals 2004 St. Louis Cardinals 2004 Atlanta Braves 2005 St. Louis Cardinals 2011 Philadelphia Phillies |
09-30-2017, 11:00 AM | #26 |
Minors (Triple A)
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League 1-7 Results:
Original League 1 Standings: 1. 1995 Atlanta Braves, 153-87 (+3) 2. 1919 Cleveland Indians, 146-94 (+4) 3. 1906 Chicago Cubs, 144-96 (+5) 4. 1969 Detroit Tigers, 141-99 (+3) 5. 1948 Cleveland Indians, 134-106 (+4) 6. 1984 Pittsburgh Pirates, 134-106 (+1) 7. 2004 Chicago Cubs, 132-108 (+1) 8. 2009 Los Angeles Dodgers, 131-109 (-3) 9. 1948 Boston Braves, 131-109 (-3) 10. 1947 St. Louis Cardinals, 130-110 (+4) 11. 1989 New York Mets, 129-111 (+3) 12. 1947 Boston Red Sox, 129-111 (-1) 13. 1970 Los Angeles Dodgers, 128-112 (+12) 14. 1942 New York Yankees, 128-112 (-6) 15. 1966 Baltimore Orioles, 128-112 (-4) 16. 1904 Cincinnati Reds, 125-115 (+4) Original League 2 Standings: 1. 2011 Philadelphia Phillies, 151-89 (-1) 2. 1997 Atlanta Braves, 145-95 (-3) 3. 1974 Cincinnati Reds, 140-100 (+2) 4. 1985 St. Louis Cardinals, 139-101 (0) 5. 2004 St. Louis Cardinals, 138-102 (+6) 6. 1904 New York Highlanders, 138-102 (+3) 7. 1946 Boston Red Sox, 137-103 (-3) 8. 1933 New York Yankees, 136-104 (-5) 9. 2002 Los Angeles Dodgers, 134-106 (+9) 10. 1992 St. Louis Cardinals, 133-107 (+4) 11. 1962 Milwaukee Braves, 133-107 (+5) 12. 1992 Cincinnati Reds, 132-108 (-1) 13. 2004 Atlanta Braves, 132-108 (+1) 14. 1921 New York Yankees, 129-111 (-1) 15. 2005 St. Louis Cardinals, 129-111 (+1) 16. 1959 San Francisco Giants, 128-112 (+9) Playoffs: Qualifying Series: The 1995 Atlanta Braves (1) defeat the 1904 Cincinnati Reds (16) four games to three The 2009 Los Angeles Dodgers (8) defeat the 1948 Boston Braves (9) four games to three The 1948 Cleveland Indians (5) defeat the 1947 Boston Red Sox (12) four games to three The 1970 Los Angeles Dodgers (13) upset the 1969 Detroit Tigers (4) four games to one The 1906 Chicago Cubs (3) defeat the 1942 New York Yankees (14) four games to three The 1989 New York Mets (11) upset the 1984 Pittsburgh Pirates (6) four games to one The 1947 St. Louis Cardinals (10) upset the 2004 Chicago Cubs (7) four games to two The 1966 Baltimore Orioles (15) upset the 1919 Cleveland Indians (2) four games to two The 2011 Philadelphia Phillies (1) defeat the 1959 San Francisco Giants (16) four games to three The 1933 New York Yankees (8) defeat the 2002 Los Angeles Dodgers (9) four games to three The 1992 Cincinnati Reds (12) upset the 2004 St. Louis Cardinals (5) four games to three The 1985 St. Louis Cardinals (4) defeat the 2004 Atlanta Braves (13) four games to two The 1974 Cincinnati Reds (3) sweep the 1921 New York Yankees (14) four games to zero The 1962 Milwaukee Braves (11) upset the 1904 New York Highlanders (6) four games to two The 1992 St. Louis Cardinals (10) upset the 1946 Boston Red Sox (7) four games to one The 1997 Atlanta Braves (2) defeat the 2005 St. Louis Cardinals (15) four games to one Sweet Sixteen: The 2009 Los Angeles Dodgers (8) upset the 1995 Atlanta Braves (1) four games to three The 1948 Cleveland Indians (5) defeat the 1970 Los Angeles Dodgers (13) four games to one The 1906 Chicago Cubs (3) defeat the 1989 New York Mets (11) four games to three The 1966 Baltimore Orioles (15) upset the 1947 St. Louis Cardinals (10) four games to two The 2011 Philadelphia Phillies (1) defeat the 1933 New York Yankees (8) four games to one The 1985 St. Louis Cardinals (4) defeat the 1992 Cincinnati Reds (12) four games to one The 1962 Milwaukee Braves (11) upset the 1974 Cincinnati Reds (3) four games to one The 1997 Atlanta Braves (2) defeat the 1992 St. Louis Cardinals (10) four games to three The Elite Eight The 2009 Los Angeles Dodgers (8) upset the 1948 Cleveland Indians (5) four games to one The 1906 Chicago Cubs (3) defeat the 1966 Baltimore Orioles (15) four games to one The 2011 Philadelphia Phillies (1) defeat the 1985 St. Louis Cardinals (4) four games to one The 1997 Atlanta Braves (2) defeat the 1962 Milwaukee Braves (11) four games to one Pennant Series: The 2009 Los Angeles Dodgers (8) upset the 1906 Chicago Cubs (3) four games to two The 1997 Atlanta Braves (2) upset the 2011 Philadelphia Phillies (1) four games to one World Series: The 1997 Atlanta Braves (2) defeat the 2009 Los Angeles Dodgers (8) four games to one |
09-30-2017, 11:01 AM | #27 |
Minors (Triple A)
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League 1-8 Team Roster:
DH League 1997 Chicago White Sox 1983 New York Yankees 1986 Boston Red Sox 1986 Detroit Tigers 1988 Oakland Athletics 1988 Boston Red Sox 1988 Minnesota Twins 1990 Oakland Athletics 1990 Boston Red Sox 1991 Toronto Blue Jays 1992 Oakland Athletics 1992 Baltimore Orioles 1993 Texas Rangers 1994 Chicago White Sox 1994 Kansas City Royals 1995 Boston Red Sox 1996 Chicago White Sox 1996 New York Yankees 1997 Seattle Mariners 1998 New York Yankees 1999 Boston Red Sox 2000 Cleveland Indians 2002 Anaheim Angels 2002 New York Yankees 2002 Seattle Mariners 2003 New York Yankees 2003 Toronto Blue Jays 2004 New York Yankees 2004 Minnesota Twins 2006 New York Yankees 2006 Minnesota Twins 2006 Chicago White Sox 2009 Anaheim Angels 2010 Boston Red Sox 2010 Oakland Athletics 2011 Boston Red Sox 2012 Tampa Bay Rays 2012 Oakland Athletics 2013 Kansas City Royals 2014 Los Angeles Angels 2015 Tampa Bay Rays 2016 Houston Astros Original League 1905 New York Giants 1905 Pittsburgh Pirates 1906 Pittsburgh Pirates 1914 Philadelphia Athletics 1914 Boston Braves 1921 Cleveland Indians 1923 New York Yankees 1924 New York Yankees 1925 St. Louis Cardinals 1926 Pittsburgh Pirates 1928 New York Giants 1930 Washington Senators 1934 Chicago Cubs 1938 Cincinnati Reds 1940 Cincinnati Reds 1940 Brooklyn Dodgers 1945 Detroit Tigers 1948 Boston Red Sox 1949 Brooklyn Dodgers 1949 New York Yankees 1950 New York Yankees 1950 Detroit Tigers 1950 New York Giants 1952 Brooklyn Dodgers 1953 Washington Senators 1960 Baltimore Orioles 1962 Cincinnati Reds 1965 Milwaukee Braves 1973 Los Angeles Dodgers 1976 Los Angeles Dodgers 1977 St. Louis Cardinals 1983 Atlanta Braves 1992 Pittsburgh Pirates 1998 San Diego Padres 2000 San Francisco Giants 2000 New York Mets 2001 Chicago Cubs 2004 Houston Astros 2006 New York Mets 2013 Atlanta Braves 2016 Chicago Cubs 2016 San Francisco Giants Well, the 1998 New York Yankees are finally in play. If people name DH teams to the best of all-time discussion, this is the team. But this is also the 2016 Chicago Cubs appearance, as well as some other fun teams. This is also the last league for the Rays to qualify a team for the next round. You know, why does everyone assume that the best team of all-time has to be old? Every team that gets brought up is from 20+ years ago. Of the 2526 teams we've seen since 1901, almost 20% of them have been since 2000. Which means that we would assume, on average, that at least 1 in 5 of the top teams to be from the last 16 years. But really, we should expect higher. After all, the understanding of how to maximize performance from team assembly has only improved as time has passed. |
09-30-2017, 11:02 AM | #28 |
Minors (Triple A)
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League 1-8 Results:
DH League Standings: 1. 2011 Boston Red Sox, 146-94 (+11) 2. 2000 Cleveland Indians, 141-99 (+1) 3. 2006 Chicago White Sox, 136-104 (+10) 4. 2014 Los Angeles Angels, 135-105 (-1) 5. 2010 Boston Red Sox, 133-107 (+1) 6. 1991 Toronto Blue Jays, 133-107 (-4) 7. 2004 Minnesota Twins, 133-107 (+5) 8. 2009 Los Angeles Angels, 133-107 (+7) 9. 2006 Minnesota Twins, 132-108 (+6) 10. 1996 Chicago White Sox, 130-110 (+8) 11. 2003 New York Yankees, 130-110 (+1) 12. 1996 New York Yankees, 129-111 (+7) 13. 1997 Seattle Mariners, 129-111 (+1) 14. 1977 Chicago White Sox, 128-112 (-2) 15. 2006 New York Yankees, 127-113 (-3) 16. 1988 Minnesota Twins, 126-114 (-4) Original League Standings: 1. 1914 Philadelphia Athletics, 152-88 (+5) 2. 1948 Boston Red Sox, 142-98 (+3) 3. 1905 New York Giants, 139-101 (-1) 4. 1973 Los Angeles Dodgers, 134-106 (-2) 5. 1965 Milwaukee Braves, 132-108 (+11) 6. 1949 Brooklyn Dodgers, 132-108 (+8) 7. 2016 Chicago Cubs, 132-108 (+2) 8. 1930 Washington Senators, 130-110 (-7) 9. 2000 San Francisco Giants, 128-112 (-3) 10. 1906 Pittsburgh Pirates, 127-112 (+3) 11. 1950 New York Yankees, 126-114 (-5) 12. 1952 Brooklyn Dodgers, 125-115 (-5) 13. 1977 St. Louis Cardinals, 124-116 (+2) 14. 1992 Pittsburgh Pirates, 123-117 (-7) 15. 1998 San Diego Padres, 122-118 (-6) 16. 1983 Atlanta Braves, 122-118 (+1) Playoffs: Qualifying Round: The 2011 Boston Red Sox (1) defeat the 1998 Minnesota Twins (16) four games to three The 2009 Los Angeles Angels (8) defeat the 2006 Minnesota Twins (9) four games to three The 2010 Boston Red Sox (5) defeat the 1996 New York Yankees (12) four games to two The 2014 Los Angeles Angels (4) defeat the 1997 Seattle Mariners (13) four games to three The 1977 Chicago White Sox (14) upset the 2006 Chicago White Sox (3) four games to one The 1991 Toronto Blue Jays (6) defeat the 2003 New York Yankees (11) four games to two The 2004 Minnesota Twins (7) defeat the 1996 Chicago White Sox (10) four games to two The 2006 New York Yankees (15) upset the 2000 Cleveland Indians (2) four games to three The 1983 Atlanta Braves (16) upset the 1914 Philadelphia Athletics (1) four games to two The 2000 San Francisco Giants (9) upset the 1930 Washington Senators (8) four games to two The 1973 Los Angeles Dodgers (4) defeat the 1977 St. Louis Cardinals (13) four games to two The 1952 Brooklyn Dodgers (12) upset the 1965 Milwaukee Brewers (5) four games to three The 1950 New York Yankees (11) upset the 1949 Brooklyn Dodgers (6) four games to two The 1992 Pittsburgh Pirates (14) upset the 1905 New York Giants (3) four games to one The 2016 Chicago Cubs (7) sweep the 1906 Pittsburgh Pirates (10) four games to zero The 1948 Boston Red Sox (2) defeat the 1998 San Diego Padres (15) four games to three Sweet Sixteen: The 2011 Boston Red Sox (1) defeat the 2009 Los Angeles Angels (8) four games to one The 2010 Boston Red Sox (5) upset the 2014 Los Angeles Angels (4) four games to two The 1977 Chicago White Sox (14) upset the 1991 Toronto Blue Jays (6) four games to three The 2004 Minnesota Twins (7) defeat the 2006 New York Yankees (15) four games to three The 1983 Atlanta Braves (16) upset the 2000 San Francisco Giants (9) four games to three The 1952 Brooklyn Dodgers (12) upset the 1973 Los Angeles Dodgers (4) four games to two The 1950 New York Yankees (11) defeat the 1992 Pittsburgh Pirates (14) four games to one The 2016 Chicago Cubs (7) upset the 1948 Boston Red Sox (2) four games to two Elite Eight: The 2011 Boston Red Sox (1) defeat the 2010 Boston Red Sox (5) four games to one The 2004 Minnesota Twins (7) defeat the 1977 Chicago White Sox (14) four games to three The 1983 Atlanta Braves (16) upset 1952 Brooklyn Dodgers (12) four games to two The 2016 Chicago Cubs (7) defeat the 1950 New York Yankees (11) four games to three Pennant Series: The 2004 Minnesota Twins (7) upset the 2011 Boston Red Sox (1) four games to three The 2016 Chicago Cubs (7) defeat the 1983 Atlanta Braves (16) four games to three World Series: The 2016 Chicago Cubs (7) defeat the 2004 Minnesota Twins (7) four games to one Well. Don't really know what to say. The 1998 Yankees came and went, putting up a 119-121 record, with a (0) pythag adjustment. The sad truth is that in any given year, the standard deviation of any team is 8 games. Which means that a respectable amount of the time a 127 win team will finish with 119 wins. Were the 1998 Yankees a little overrated? Perhaps. But they could just as easily have been one of the better teams here and just underperformed. But I guess we should expect such things. There are plenty more rounds to go. And we'll see a lot more great teams get unlucky and flame out. And we'll see a lot of poor teams overperform. The randomness of life happens, and will continue to happen. |
09-30-2017, 11:08 AM | #29 |
Minors (Triple A)
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League 1-9 Team Roster
Original League 1 1902 Chicago White Sox 1909 Pittsburgh Pirates 1911 New York Giants 1912 Washington Senators 1913 Chicago Cubs 1914 Boston Red Sox 1915 Chicago White Sox 1916 Brooklyn Robins 1920 Cleveland Indians 1922 Pittsburgh Pirates 1927 New York Giants 1929 Pittsburgh Pirates 1930 Brooklyn Robins 1932 Cleveland Indians 1933 Pittsburgh Pirates 1934 New York Yankees 1935 Pittsburgh Pirates 1939 Cleveland Indians 1941 St. Louis Cardinals 1949 Cleveland Indians 1951 Boston Red Sox 1956 New York Yankees 1957 New York Yankees 1957 Milwaukee Braves 1959 Milwaukee Braves 1959 New York Yankees 1963 Philadelphia Phillies 1966 Pittsburgh Pirates 1966 Philadelphia Phillies 1969 Baltimore Orioles 1969 Atlanta Braves 1969 Washington Senators 1970 Pittsburgh Pirates 1972 Houston Astros 1972 Detroit Tigers 1973 Cincinnati Reds 1975 Los Angeles Dodgers 1979 Cincinnati Reds 1983 Los Angeles Dodgers 1984 Philadelphia Phillies 1986 Houston Astros 1993 Atlanta Braves 1993 Philadelphia Phillies 1996 Montreal Expos 1999 Arizona Diamondbacks 2003 Philadelphia Phillies 2010 Philadelphia Phillies 2016 Washington Nationals Original League 2 1903 Boston Americans 1907 Chicago Cubs 1911 Chicago Cubs 1913 Cleveland Indians 1913 Pittsburgh Pirates 1917 Detroit Tigers 1921 St. Louis Browns 1922 Cincinnati Reds 1926 St. Louis Cardinals 1927 St. Louis Cardinals 1928 St. Louis Cardinals 1928 Chicago Cubs 1929 New York Yankees 1930 New York Yankees 1930 New York Giants 1931 New York Yankees 1934 New York Giants 1936 New York Yankees 1937 New York Yankees 1938 Boston Red Sox 1941 New York Yankees 1941 Boston Red Sox 1948 New York Yankees 1949 Detroit Tigers 1952 Cleveland Indians 1955 Chicago White Sox 1957 Boston Red Sox 1959 Cleveland Indians 1959 Brooklyn Dodgers 1963 San Francisco Giants 1963 Milwaukee Braves 1966 San Francisco Giants 1967 St. Louis Cardinals 1968 Baltimore Orioles 1968 Pittsburgh Pirates 1969 Oakland Athletics 1969 St. Louis Cardinals 1970 New York Yankees 1972 Baltimore Orioles 1972 Los Angeles Dodgers 1980 Philadelphia Phillies 1983 Philadelphia Phillies 1987 New York Mets 1995 Houston Astros 1997 Houston Astros 2003 Atlanta Braves 2005 Philadelphia Phillies 2005 New York Mets |
09-30-2017, 11:09 AM | #30 |
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League 1-9 Results:
Original League 1 Standings: 1. 1966 Pittsburgh Pirates, 147-93 (-4) 2. 1909 Pittsburgh Pirates, 143-97 (+3) 3. 1999 Arizona Diamondbacks, 138-102 (+3) 4. 1915 Chicago White Sox, 138-102 (0) 5. 1970 Pittsburgh Pirates, 138-102 (-4) 6. 1914 Boston Red Sox, 135-105 (+3) 7. 1911 New York Giants, 135-105 (+1) 8. 1969 Baltimore Orioles, 133-107 (+3) 9. 1934 New York Yankees, 131-109 (-2) 10. 1951 Boston Red Sox, 131-109 (-1) 11. 1984 Philadelphia Phillies, 130-110 (+4) 12. 1993 Philadelphia Phillies, 130-110 (-9) 13. 1975 Los Angeles Dodgers, 129-111 (+3) 14. 1973 Cincinnati Reds, 128-112 (+7) 15. 1969 Atlanta Braves, 128-112 (-1) 16. 2010 Philadelphia Phillies, 126-113 (-4) Original League 2 Standings: 1. 1931 New York Yankees, 148-92 (-2) 2. 1967 St. Louis Cardinals, 144-96 (-6) 3. 1987 New York Mets, 143-97 (+10) 4. 1980 Philadelphia Phillies, 142-98 (+6) 5. 1995 Houston Astros, 140-100 (+6) 6. 1972 Los Angeles Dodgers, 139-101 (+12) 7. 1937 New York Yankees, 138-102 (-5) 8. 1930 New York Yankees, 137-103 (+7) 9. 1907 Chicago Cubs, 134-106 (+1) 10. 2003 Atlanta Braves, 131-109 (-4) 11. 1955 Chicago White Sox, 129-111 (+7) 12. 1913 Cleveland Naps, 129-111 (-4) 13. 2005 Philadelphia Phillies, 128-112 (+5) 14. 1997 Houston Astros, 128-112 (0) 15. 1983 Philadelphia Phillies, 126-114 (0) 16. 1941 Boston Red Sox, 125-115 (-5) Playoffs: Qualifying Round: The 2010 Philadelphia Phillies (16) upset the 1966 Pittsburgh Pirates (1) four games to three The 1969 Baltimore Orioles (8) defeat the 1934 New York Yankees (9) four games to two The 1970 Pittsburgh Pirates (5) defeat the 1993 Philadelphia Phillies (12) four games to one The 1915 Chicago White Sox (4) defeat the 1975 Los Angeles Dodgers (13) four games to one The 1973 Cincinnati Reds (14) upset the 1999 Arizona Diamondbacks (3) four games to three The 1984 Philadelphia Phillies (11) upset and sweep the 1914 Boston Red Sox (6) four games to zero The 1911 New York Giants (7) defeat the 1951 Boston Red Sox (10) four games to three The 1969 Atlanta Braves (15) upset the 1909 Pittsburgh Pirates (2) four games to one The 1941 Boston Red Sox (16) upset the 1931 New York Yankees (1) four games to two The 1930 New York Yankees (8) sweep the 1907 Chicago Cubs (9) four games to zero The 1995 Houston Astros (5) sweep the 1913 Cleveland Naps (12) four games to zero The 1980 Philadelphia Phillies (4) defeat the 2005 Philadelphia Phillies (13) four games to two The 1987 New York Mets (3) defeat the 1997 Houston Astros (14) four games to three The 1972 Los Angeles Dodgers (6) defeat the 1955 Chicago White Sox (11) four games to two The 1937 New York Yankees (7) defeat the 2003 Atlanta Braves (10) four games to two The 1967 St. Louis Cardinals (2) defeat the 1983 Philadelphia Phillies (15) four games to two Sweet Sixteen: The 1969 Baltimore Orioles (8) defeat the 2010 Philadelphia Phillies (16) four games to three The 1915 Chicago White Sox (4) defeat the 1970 Pittsburgh Pirates (5) four games to three The 1984 Philadelphia Phillies (11) defeat the 1973 Cincinnati Reds (14) four games to three The 1969 Atlanta Braves (15) upset the 1911 New York Giants (7) four games to one The 1930 New York Yankees (8) defeat the 1941 Boston Red Sox (16) four games to two The 1980 Philadelphia Phillies (4) defeat the 1995 Houston Astros (5) four games to one The 1987 New York Mets (3) sweep the 1972 Los Angeles Dodgers (6) four games to zero The 1967 St. Louis Cardinals (2) defeat the 1937 New York Yankees (7) four games to one Elite Eight: The 1915 Chicago White Sox (4) defeat the 1969 Baltimore Orioles (8) four games to one The 1969 Atlanta Braves (15) upset the 1984 Philadelphia Phillies (11) four games to three The 1980 Philadelphia Phillies (4) defeat the 1930 New York Yankees (8) four games to three The 1987 New York Mets (3) upset the 1967 St. Louis Cardinals (2) four games to three Pennant Series: The 1915 Chicago White Sox (4) defeat the 1969 Atlanta Braves (15) four games to three The 1987 New York Mets (3) defeat the 1980 Philadelphia Phillies (4) four games to one World Series: The 1915 Chicago White Sox (4) upset the 1987 New York Mets (3) four games to one |
09-30-2017, 11:14 AM | #31 |
Minors (Triple A)
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Team Roster League 1-10:
Original League 1901 Philadelphia Phillies 1904 Chicago White Sox 1909 Philadelphia Athletics 1910 New York Giants 1911 Pittsburgh Pirates 1915 Washington Senators 1916 Boston Red Sox 1919 Cincinnati Reds 1919 New York Giants 1924 Pittsburgh Pirates 1936 Chicago Cubs 1938 Pittsburgh Pirates 1940 Chicago White Sox 1943 Detroit Tigers 1944 Pittsburgh Pirates 1945 St. Louis Cardinals 1945 Brooklyn Dodgers 1949 Boston Red Sox 1950 Philadelphia Phillies 1952 Philadelphia Phillies 1954 Chicago White Sox 1960 Milwaukee Braves 1961 Milwaukee Braves 1962 Chicago White Sox 1970 Baltimore Orioles 1971 San Francisco Giants 1975 Pittsburgh Pirates 1977 Philadelphia Phillies 1978 Los Angeles Dodgers 1978 Pittsburgh Pirates 1990 Pittsburgh Pirates 1996 Atlanta Braves 1998 Atlanta Braves 1998 San Francisco Giants 1999 Atlanta Braves 1999 Houston Astros 2000 Cincinnati Reds 2002 San Francisco Giants 2009 Philadelphia Phillies 2012 St. Louis Cardinals 2013 Cincinnati Reds 2016 St. Louis Cardinals DH League 1975 Kansas City Royals 1976 Boston Red Sox 1977 Boston Red Sox 1977 Minnesota Twins 1978 New York Yankees 1978 Milwaukee Brewers 1979 Baltimore Orioles 1982 California Angels 1984 New York Yankees 1985 Boston Red Sox 1987 Toronto Blue Jays 1987 Detroit Tigers 1987 Milwaukee Brewers 1988 Toronto Blue Jays 1989 Oakland Athletics 1989 Toronto Blue Jays 1991 Milwaukee Brewers 1991 Seattle Mariners 1992 Minnesota Twins 1993 Detroit Tigers 1993 Baltimore Orioles 1995 Cleveland Indians 1996 Seattle Mariners 1997 Cleveland Indians 2000 Chicago White Sox 2000 Oakland Athletics 2004 Oakland Athletics 2006 Cleveland Indians 2006 Anaheim Angels 2006 Toronto Blue Jays 2007 Toronto Blue Jays 2008 Boston Red Sox 2009 New York Yankees 2009 Minnesota Twins 2011 Texas Rangers 2011 Detroit Tigers 2012 Los Angeles Angels 2013 Detroit Tigers 2014 Detroit Tigers 2014 Toronto Blue Jays 2015 Baltimore Orioles 2016 Toronto Blue Jays |
09-30-2017, 11:19 AM | #32 |
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League 1-10 Results:
Original League Standings: 1. 1998 Atlanta Braves, 152-88 (-2) 2. 1999 Atlanta Braves, 149-91 (-6) 3. 2009 Philadelphia Phillies, 146-94 (+6) 4. 1990 Pittsburgh Pirates, 138-102 (-2) 5. 1975 Pittsburgh Pirates, 138-102 (+3) 6. 1909 Philadelphia Athletics, 138-102 (+3) 7. 2013 Cincinnati Reds, 134-106 (-3) 8. 1977 Philadelphia Phillies, 132-108 (+4) 9. 1999 Houston Astros, 132-108 (-1) 10. 1998 San Francisco Giants, 131-109 (-2) 11. 1919 New York Giants, 131-109 (+25) 12. 1952 Philadelphia Phillies, 130-110 (+9) 13. 1949 Boston Red Sox, 128-112 (-7) 14. 2012 St. Louis Cardinals, 127-113 (-5) 15. 1996 Atlanta Braves, 127-113 (-5) 16. 2002 San Francisco Giants, 126-114 (-5) DH League Standings: 1. 2013 Detroit Tigers, 153-87 (+3) 2. 1997 Cleveland Indians, 140-100 (+5) 3. 2008 Boston Red Sox, 137-103 (+3) 4. 2004 Oakland Athletics, 136-104 (+3) 5. 2014 Detroit Tigers, 132-108 (-3) 6. 2011 Texas Rangers, 132-108 (+5) 7. 2011 Detroit Tigers, 130-110 (+2) 8. 1984 New York Yankees, 130-110 (+2) 9. 1987 Milwaukee Brewers, 129-111 (+4) 10. 1996 Seattle Mariners, 128-112 (-6) 11. 2012 Los Angeles Angels, 128-112 (+5) 12. 1995 Cleveland Indians, 128-112 (-4) 13. 2014 Toronto Blue Jays, 127-113 (+3) 14. 2009 New York Yankees, 126-114 (-9) 15. 1987 Detroit Tigers, 126-114 (+11) 16. 2006 Cleveland Indians, 125-115 (+4) Playoffs: Qualifying Series: The 2002 San Francisco Giants (16) upset the 1998 Atlanta Braves (1) four games to two The 1999 Houston Astros (9) upset the 1977 Philadelphia Phillies (8) four games to one The 1975 Pittsburgh Pirates (5) defeat the 1952 Philadelphia Phillies (12) four games to two The 1949 Boston Red Sox (13) upset the 1990 Pittsburgh Pirates (4) four games to two The 2009 Philadelphia Phillies (3) defeat the 2012 St. Louis Cardinals (14) four games to three The 1919 New York Giants (11) upset the 1909 Philadelphia Athletics (6) four games to one The 2013 Cincinnati Reds (7) defeat the 1998 San Francisco Giants (10) four games to two The 1999 Atlanta Braves (2) defeat the 1996 Atlanta Braves (15) four games to three The 2006 Cleveland Indians (16) upset the 2013 Detroit Tigers (1) four games to one The 1984 New York Yankees (8) defeat the 1987 Milwaukee Brewers (9) four games to one The 2014 Detroit Tigers (5) defeat the 1995 Cleveland Indians (12) four games to two The 2004 Oakland Athletics (4) defeat the 2014 Toronto Blue Jays (13) four games to two The 2008 Boston Red Sox (3) defeat the 2009 New York Yankees (14) four games to two The 2011 Texas Rangers (6) defeat the 2012 Los Angeles Angels (11) four games to one The 2011 Detroit Tigers (7) defeat the 1996 Seattle Mariners (10) four games to two The 1987 Detroit Tigers (15) upset and sweep the 1997 Cleveland Indians (2) four games to zero Sweet Sixteen: The 2002 San Francisco Giants (16) upset the 1999 Houston Astros (9) four games to one The 1949 Boston Red Sox (13) upset the 1975 Pittsburgh Pirates (5) four games to three The 1919 New York Giants (11) upset the 2009 Philadelphia Phillies (3) four games to three The 1999 Atlanta Braves (2) defeat the 2013 Cincinnati Reds (7) four games to three The 2006 Cleveland Indians (16) upset the 1984 New York Yankees (8) four games to three The 2004 Oakland Athletics (4) defeat the 2014 Detroit Tigers (5) four games to three The 2008 Boston Red Sox (3) defeat the 2011 Texas Rangers (6) four games to one The 2011 Detroit Tigers (7) defeat the 1987 Detroit Tigers (15) four games to one Elite Eight: The 2002 San Francisco Giants (16) upset the 1949 Boston Red Sox (13) four games to three The 1999 Atlanta Braves (2) defeat the 1919 New York Giants (11) four games to one The 2004 Oakland Athletics (4) defeat the 2006 Cleveland Indians (16) four games to one The 2011 Detroit Tigers (7) upset the 2008 Boston Red Sox (3) four games to three Pennant Series: The 2002 San Francisco Giants (16) upset the 1999 Atlanta Braves (2) four games to two The 2011 Detroit Tigers (7) upset the 2004 Oakland Athletics (4) four games to one World Series: The 2002 San Francisco Giants (16) upset the 2011 Detroit Tigers (7) four games to two Round One of the SuperTournament is complete! |
09-30-2017, 12:00 PM | #33 |
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SuperTournament Round 1 Results!
Before I announce the organization for the next round, I want to cover which franchises have what teams moving forward. Teams with the Most Representatives Remaining: 1. Yankees: 39 2. Red Sox: 24 3. Braves: 23 4. Pirates: 23 5. Indians: 19 6. Cardinals: 18 7. Dodgers, Giants, Phillies: 17 10. Tigers: 15 Teams with the Least: 1. Tampa Bay: 0 2. Padres, Marlins: 1 4. Diamondbacks, Rockies: 2 Teams that Lost the Most Teams (percentage-wise): 1. Orioles: 89.1% 2. Padres: 80.0% 3. Twins: 75.8% 4. Brewers: 75.0% 5. Giants: 73.0% Teams that Lost the Least Teams (percentage-wise): 1. Braves: 23.3% 2. Diamondbacks: 33.3% 3. Phillies: 34.6% 4. Expos: 38.5% 5. Mariners: 40.0% Surprises? Perhaps. The Orioles just got wrecked. They have some good teams remaining of course. Really, that franchise only had one strong time (late 60s, early 70s) and everything since then hasn't been too strong. Also, the Phillies are a surprise in the opposite direction. Part of this is that their early teams had both strikeout pitching (Pete Alexander) and home runs (Gavvy Cravath) when few other teams did. The other part is that their peaks in the 80s and around 2010 were both very strong. Still, a surprising amount of success. Advancing Specifically: The top 336 teams advanced (3/8ths of the 900). The cutoff ended up being 125 wins. The decision of which 125 win teams to eliminate (as there were 15 for 11 spots) was made by team WAR in their simulated season. It wasn't close. The DH leagues were weirdly top-heavy: they had a disproportionate number of teams with great records, but proportionately fewer teams with good records. Accordingly, only 99 DH teams made the cut, which means that the DH leagues are smaller (and the paired Original Leagues are the same size). The default theory was 6 leagues of 56 teams (28 on each side) but the disproportion required changes. Round 2 Team Rosters: League 2-1: 25 team leagues, 9-team playoff (7-team byes), expect 9.4 teams per league to advance - highlights are top 9 teams based on Round 1 performance DH League 1983 Milwaukee Brewers 1983 New York Yankees 1986 New York Yankees 1986 Boston Red Sox 1987 Milwaukee Brewers 1987 Detroit Tigers 1988 Kansas City Royals 1988 Minnesota Twins 1991 Toronto Blue Jays 1993 Chicago White Sox 1996 Cleveland Indians 1996 Chicago White Sox 1997 New York Yankees 1997 Cleveland Indians 1999 New York Yankees 2001 Oakland Athletics 2002 Seattle Mariners 2006 New York Yankees 2008 Boston Red Sox 2008 Cleveland Indians 2009 Boston Red Sox 2009 Los Angeles Angels 2010 Boston Red Sox 2011 Boston Red Sox 2011 Detroit Tigers Original League 1903 Pittsburgh Pirates 1909 Pittsburgh Pirates 1909 Chicago Cubs 1914 Boston Red Sox 1915 Philadelphia Phillies 1915 Boston Red Sox 1921 New York Yankees 1930 New York Yankees 1930 Washington Senators 1931 New York Yankees 1939 New York Yankees 1948 Boston Braves 1956 Milwaukee Braves 1960 Chicago White Sox 1966 Philadelphia Phillies 1983 Philadelphia Phillies 1985 Los Angeles Dodgers 1986 New York Mets 1987 St. Louis Cardinals 1996 Atlanta Braves 1998 Houston Astros 1999 Arizona Diamondbacks 2004 St. Louis Cardinals 2012 St. Louis Cardinals 2014 Washington Nationals There's no question the quality of team has jumped a lot here. I'm surprised to see the early era so concentrated in that Original League; 44% of the teams coming from before 1940 is a big surprise. This group has two best-finishing Round 1 teams, the 1997 Yankees and the 1998 Astros. Should be fun. League 2-2: 24 team leagues, 9-team playoff (7-team byes), expect 9 teams per league to advance, highlights are top 9 teams based on Round 1 performance Original League 1906 Chicago Cubs 1907 New York Giants 1907 Philadelphia Athletics 1912 Philadelphia Athletics 1916 Chicago White Sox 1930 St. Louis Cardinals 1931 St. Louis Cardinals 1938 New York Yankees 1947 St. Louis Cardinals 1947 Boston Red Sox 1948 Boston Red Sox 1959 New York Giants 1962 Pittsburgh Pirates 1968 St. Louis Cardinals 1969 Minnesota Twins 1973 Cincinnati Reds 1980 Montreal Expos 1990 Pittsburgh Pirates 2000 Atlanta Braves 2003 Florida Marlins 2009 Philadelphia Phillies 2009 Atlanta Braves 2015 St. Louis Cardinals 2016 Chicago Cubs DH League 1977 New York Yankees 1982 Chicago White Sox 1982 Milwaukee Brewers 1984 Toronto Blue Jays 1984 Detroit Tigers 1985 Kansas City Royals 1986 California Angels 1990 Toronto Blue Jays 1991 Minnesota Twins 1993 Toronto Blue Jays 1993 New York Yankees 1995 Seattle Mariners 2002 Boston Red Sox 2003 New York Yankees 2006 Cleveland Indians 2006 Boston Red Sox 2007 Boston Red Sox 2007 Los Angeles Angels 2011 Texas Rangers 2012 Detroit Tigers 2013 Boston Red Sox 2015 Houston Astros 2015 Kansas City Royals 2016 Boston Red Sox League 2-3 Team Roster: Two 36-team leagues, 13-team playoff (3 team byes), expect 13.5 to advance per league, highlights are the top 13 teams based on Round 1 performance Original League 1 1904 New York Highlanders 1907 Chicago Cubs 1913 Philadelphia Athletics 1919 New York Giants 1921 Pittsburgh Pirates 1923 Detroit Tigers 1929 Philadelphia Athletics 1933 New York Yankees 1934 New York Yankees 1934 Detroit Tigers 1942 New York Yankees 1949 Brooklyn Dodgers 1953 Brooklyn Dodgers 1957 Chicago White Sox 1960 Pittsburgh Pirates 1967 St. Louis Cardinals 1969 Pittsburgh Pirates 1970 Chicago Cubs 1971 Baltimore Orioles 1971 Pittsburgh Pirates 1972 Pittsburgh Pirates 1975 Pittsburgh Pirates 1977 Philadelphia Phillies 1983 Atlanta Braves 1989 Chicago Cubs 1992 Cincinnati Reds 1995 Atlanta Braves 1997 Houston Astros 1998 Atlanta Braves 2002 San Francisco Giants 2005 St. Louis Cardinals 2007 Atlanta Braves 2007 Philadelphia Phillies 2009 Colorado Rockies 2012 Washington Nationals 2013 Cincinnati Reds Original League 2 1902 Cincinnati Reds 1904 Cleveland Naps 1905 New York Giants 1908 Chicago Cubs 1910 Boston Red Sox 1911 Philadelphia Athletics 1932 New York Yankees 1947 New York Yankees 1950 Boston Red Sox 1951 Brooklyn Dodgers 1951 Boston Red Sox 1952 Philadelphia Phillies 1953 New York Yankees 1961 Detroit Tigers 1962 New York Yankees 1964 Cincinnati Reds 1967 Detroit Tigers 1969 Atlanta Braves 1973 Los Angeles Dodgers 1976 Philadelphia Phillies 1979 Pittsburgh Pirates 1985 St. Louis Cardinals 1985 New York Mets 1988 New York Mets 1990 Cincinnati Reds 1991 Atlanta Braves 1993 San Francisco Giants 1993 Houston Astros 1997 Atlanta Braves 1999 San Francisco Giants 2000 St. Louis Cardinals 2002 Los Angeles Dodgers 2002 Arizona Diamondbacks 2004 Atlanta Braves 2007 San Diego Padres 2016 Los Angeles Dodgers Jeez, look at that logjam of early 70s Pirates in OL1! League 2-4 Team Roster: 24 team leagues, 9-team playoff (7-team byes), expect 9 teams per league to advance, highlights are top 9 teams based on Round 1 performance DH League 1977 Texas Rangers 1977 Chicago White Sox 1978 Texas Rangers 1984 Boston Red Sox 1995 Cleveland Indians 1998 Texas Rangers 1998 Cleveland Indians 1999 Cleveland Indians 2000 Cleveland Indians 2001 Seattle Mariners 2004 Minnesota Twins 2005 Cleveland Indians 2006 Chicago White Sox 2007 New York Yankees 2007 Cleveland Indians 2008 New York Yankees 2010 Minnesota Twins 2010 Texas Rangers 2010 New York Yankees 2013 Detroit Tigers 2014 Los Angeles Angels 2014 Detroit Tigers 2014 Toronto Blue Jays 2015 Toronto Blue Jays Original League 1902 Pittsburgh Pirates 1909 Philadelphia Athletics 1911 New York Giants 1916 New York Giants 1923 Pittsburgh Pirates 1930 Philadelphia Athletics 1950 New York Yankees 1952 Cleveland Indians 1956 Chicago White Sox 1962 Los Angeles Dodgers 1966 Baltimore Orioles 1970 Pittsburgh Pirates 1975 Cincinnati Reds 1976 Cincinnati Reds 1980 Houston Astros 1982 Los Angeles Dodgers 1987 New York Mets 1989 New York Mets 1990 Montreal Expos 1992 Atlanta Braves 2000 San Francisco Giants 2001 San Francisco Giants 2009 Los Angeles Dodgers 2015 Pittsburgh Pirates Yowza, a full quarter of the teams in that DH league are Indians. And the Original League is notable for have back-to-back Bonds teams and Big Red Machine teams. League 2-5 Team Roster: 35-team leagues, 13 team playoffs (3 team-byes), expect 13.125 to advance, highlights are favorites based on Round 1 performance Original League 1 1906 Pittsburgh Pirates 1910 Chicago Cubs 1914 Philadelphia Athletics 1915 Chicago White Sox 1923 Cleveland Indians 1924 Cincinnati Reds 1926 Philadelphia Athletics 1941 Boston Red Sox 1951 New York Yankees 1955 Cleveland Indians 1958 New York Yankees 1963 New York Yankees 1964 Baltimore Orioles 1966 Los Angeles Dodgers 1969 Detroit Tigers 1969 Baltimore Orioles 1972 Chicago Cubs 1974 Cincinnati Reds 1974 Pittsburgh Pirates 1975 Los Angeles Dodgers 1982 St. Louis Cardinals 1984 Pittsburgh Pirates 1984 Philadelphia Phillies 1990 New York Mets 1992 St. Louis Cardinals 1993 Philadelphia Phillies 1999 Atlanta Braves 1999 New York Mets 2001 Atlanta Braves 2002 Atlanta Braves 2003 Atlanta Braves 2004 San Francisco Giants 2004 Chicago Cubs 2007 Colorado Rockies 2010 Philadelphia Phillies Original League 2 1901 Pittsburgh Pirates 1902 Philadelphia Athletics 1908 New York Giants 1910 Philadelphia Athletics 1912 Boston Red Sox 1913 Cleveland Naps 1919 Cleveland Indians 1939 Detroit Tigers 1940 Detroit Tigers 1946 Boston Red Sox 1948 Cleveland Indians 1949 Boston Red Sox 1952 St. Louis Cardinals 1954 Cleveland Indians 1955 Chicago White Sox 1965 Cincinnati Reds 1965 Milwaukee Braves 1968 San Francisco Giants 1977 Cincinnati Reds 1977 Los Angeles Dodgers 1978 Philadelphia Phillies 1979 Montreal Expos 1980 Philadelphia Phillies 1982 Montreal Expos 1984 Houston Astros 1991 Pittsburgh Pirates 1992 Montreal Expos 1995 Houston Astros 1995 Cincinnati Reds 1998 San Francisco Giants 1999 Houston Astros 2008 Philadelphia Phillies 2012 Atlanta Braves 2013 St. Louis Cardinals 2014 Los Angeles Dodgers Original League 1 has a mountain of Braves teams: '99, '01, '02 and '03. League 2-6 Team Roster: Two 24-team leagues, 9-team playoffs (7 team-byes), expect 9 to advance per league, highlights are favorites based on Round 1 performance Original League 1903 Cleveland Naps 1925 Washington Senators 1927 New York Yankees 1937 New York Yankees 1943 St. Louis Cardinals 1944 St. Louis Cardinals 1946 Detroit Tigers 1952 New York Yankees 1952 Brooklyn Dodgers 1962 Milwaukee Braves 1964 Philadelphia Phillies 1965 Detroit Tigers 1965 San Francisco Giants 1966 Pittsburgh Pirates 1966 Atlanta Braves 1969 New York Mets 1970 Los Angeles Dodgers 1972 Los Angeles Dodgers 1982 Pittsburgh Pirates 1984 Chicago Cubs 1987 San Francisco Giants 1993 Atlanta Braves 2005 Philadelphia Phillies 2011 Philadelphia Phillies DH League 1973 Baltimore Orioles 1978 Boston Red Sox 1980 New York Yankees 1984 New York Yankees 1989 Kansas City Royals 1992 Toronto Blue Jays 1996 Texas Rangers 1996 New York Yankees 1996 Seattle Mariners 1997 Seattle Mariners 2001 New York Yankees 2002 Oakland Athletics 2003 Boston Red Sox 2003 Seattle Mariners 2004 Boston Red Sox 2004 Oakland Athletics 2005 New York Yankees 2006 Minnesota Twins 2009 New York Yankees 2011 New York Yankees 2012 Los Angeles Angels 2012 Chicago White Sox 2012 New York Yankees 2014 Baltimore Orioles 8 of the 24 DH teams are Yankees. Yeesh. Prospectus: Well. That's what we're looking forward to for Round 2. I intend to take this round much slower than the first. But we'll see. I'll be starting with League 2-1 and working forward, posting updates as I go. Thanks for following so far, hope you're enjoying! |
09-30-2017, 12:14 PM | #34 |
Minors (Triple A)
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League 2-1 January Update:
DH League 1991 Toronto Blue Jays, 16-5 2002 Seattle Mariners, 14-6 2011 Boston Red Sox, 14-7 1996 Cleveland Indians, 12-8 2008 Boston Red Sox, 12-8 1987 Milwaukee Brewers, 12-8 1988 Minnesota Twins, 12-8 1993 Chicago White Sox, 11-9 2009 Los Angeles Angels, 10-10 2006 New York Yankees, 10-10 2009 Boston Red Sox, 10-10 2010 Boston Red Sox, 10-10 1997 New York Yankees, 9-11 1986 New York Yankees, 9-11 1983 New York Yankees, 9-11 1986 Boston Red Sox, 9-11 1996 Chicago White Sox, 9-11 1997 Cleveland Indians, 9-12 1983 Milwaukee Brewers, 8-12 1987 Detroit Tigers, 8-12 2001 Oakland Athletics, 8-12 2011 Detroit Tigers, 8-12 2008 Cleveland Indians, 8-12 1988 Kansas City Royals, 8-13 1999 New York Yankees, 7-13 Original League 1987 St. Louis Cardinals, 15-5 1939 New York Yankees, 14-6 1931 New York Yankees, 14-6 1909 Chicago Cubs, 14-6 2012 St. Louis Cardinals, 12-8 1986 New York Mets, 12-8 1998 Houston Astros, 12-8 1915 Philadelphia Phillies, 12-8 2004 St. Louis Cardinals, 12-8 1948 Boston Braves, 11-9 1930 Washington Senators, 11-9 1966 Philadelphia Phillies, 10-10 1956 Milwaukee Braves, 10-10 1909 Pittsburgh Pirates, 10-10 1903 Pittsburgh Pirates, 10-11 1914 Boston Red Sox, 9-11 1930 New York Yankees, 9-11 1960 Chicago White Sox, 9-11 1999 Arizona Diamondbacks, 9-12 2014 Washington Nationals, 8-12 1985 Los Angeles Dodgers, 8-13 1983 Philadelphia Phillies, 7-13 1915 Boston Red Sox, 7-14 1921 New York Yankees, 4-16 1996 Atlanta Braves, 3-17 |
09-30-2017, 12:54 PM | #36 |
Minors (Triple A)
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League 2-3 January Update:
Original League 1 1998 Atlanta Braves, 15-6 1960 Pittsburgh Pirates, 14-7 1983 Atlanta Braves, 13-8 1977 Philadelphia Phillies, 13-8 1934 Detroit Tigers, 13-8 1967 St. Louis Cardinals, 13-8 2012 Washington Nationals, 13-8 1975 Pittsburgh Pirates, 13-8 2007 Atlanta Braves, 12-9 1971 Pittsburgh Pirates, 12-9 2009 Colorado Rockies, 12-9 1997 Houston Astros, 12-9 1953 Brooklyn Dodgers, 11-10 1913 Philadelphia Athletics, 11-10 1934 New York Yankees, 11-10 2002 San Francisco Giants, 11-10 2007 Philadelphia Phillies, 11-10 2013 Cincinnati Reds, 11-10 2005 St. Louis Cardinals, 10-11 1969 Pittsburgh Pirates, 10-11 1970 Chicago Cubs, 10-11 1923 Detroit Tigers, 10-11 1989 Chicago Cubs, 10-11 1921 Pittsburgh Pirates, 10-11 1929 Philadelphia Athletics, 10-11 1995 Atlanta Braves, 10-11 1971 Baltimore Orioles, 9-12 1942 New York Yankees, 9-12 1904 New York Highlanders, 9-12 1933 New York Yankees, 9-12 1992 Cincinnati Reds, 8-13 1907 Chicago Cubs, 8-13 1972 Pittsburgh Pirates, 8-13 1957 Chicago White Sox, 6-15 1919 New York Giants, 6-15 1949 Brooklyn Dodgers, 5-16 Original League 2 1950 Boston Red Sox, 18-3 1953 New York Yankees, 15-6 1990 Cincinnati Reds, 15-6 1964 Cincinnati Reds, 14-7 1997 Atlanta Braves, 14-7 1905 New York Giants, 13-8 1911 Philadelphia Athletics, 13-8 2007 San Diego Padres, 12-9 2004 Atlanta Braves, 12-9 1904 Cleveland Naps, 11-10 1991 Atlanta Braves, 11-10 2000 St. Louis Cardinals, 11-10 1951 Brooklyn Dodgers, 11-10 1910 Boston Red Sox, 11-10 1973 Los Angeles Dodgers, 11-10 1988 New York Mets, 10-11 2002 Arizona Diamondbacks, 10-11 1908 Chicago Cubs, 10-11 2016 Los Angeles Dodgers, 10-11 1999 San Francisco Giants, 10-11 2002 Los Angeles Dodgers, 9-12 1962 New York Yankees, 9-12 1947 New York Yankees, 9-12 1967 Detroit Tigers, 9-12 1985 New York Mets, 9-12 1993 San Francisco Giants, 9-12 1951 Boston Red Sox, 9-12 1979 Pittsburgh Pirates, 9-12 1902 Cincinnati Reds, 9-12 1985 St. Louis Cardinals, 9-12 1976 Philadelphia Phillies, 8-13 1932 New York Yankees, 8-13 1952 Philadelphia Phillies, 8-13 1993 Houston Astros, 8-13 1961 Detroit Tigers, 7-14 1969 Atlanta Braves, 7-14 So. Surprised about the 1950 Boston Red Sox? Don't be. So far this season they've hit 317/393/533, and that's with no DH. Is this a fluke? In real life as a team they hit 302/385/464, and scored 1027 runs, which is more than any team since the offense-heavy 1930s. They had a pythag of 94-60, two worse than the league-winning Yankees. Truthfully, their pitching was below average in 1950, which means they probably have one of the worst pitching staffs in the SuperTournament. And also, full disclosure, they may have one of the very best offenses in the whole thing; they certainly led their league in offense in Round 1. Incidentally. I was watching a game and the most awesome thing happened. The 1919 Giants held a 3-0 lead on the 1971 Pittsburgh Pirates. This carried into the bottom of the ninth. Art Neff came in to pitch for the Giants; he's 7/5/8, making him fine but not a great closer. The Pirates score but get two outs, so there's a man on first, two outs, down 3-1. Manny Sanguillen, the excellent catcher, hits a sinking liner to right that Ross Youngs just couldn't get to. So men on first and second, two outs, and the winning run comes to the plate in the form of Willie Stargell (think Carlos Delgado, or any super-masher ever). The pitch comes and Stargell swings. You know those home runs that are line drives, so they look like doubles but they happen to carry over the fence? This wasn't one of those. The ball exploded off the bat and was over the right field fence before I could blink. Extreme prejudice was shown. The Pirates stormed the field. It was awesome. It was one of those things that I've read about and seen once or twice, but to see Willie Stargell crush that pitch . . . It was pretty special. |
09-30-2017, 12:55 PM | #37 |
Minors (Triple A)
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League 2-4 January Update:
DH League 1995 Cleveland Indians, 15-6 2000 Cleveland Indians, 14-7 1984 Boston Red Sox, 13-8 2007 New York Yankees, 13-8 2006 Chicago White Sox, 13-8 2008 New York Yankees, 12-9 2014 Detroit Tigers, 12-9 2014 Toronto Blue Jays, 11-10 2010 Texas Rangers, 11-10 1977 Chicago White Sox, 11-10 1999 Cleveland Indians, 11-10 2001 Seattle Mariners, 11-10 1998 Cleveland Indians, 11-10 2010 New York Yankees, 10-11 2005 Cleveland Indians, 10-11 1998 Texas Rangers, 10-11 1977 Texas Rangers, 9-12 2013 Detroit Tigers, 9-12 2015 Toronto Blue Jays, 9-12 2014 Los Angeles Angels, 9-12 1978 Texas Rangers, 9-12 2010 Minnesota Twins, 9-12 2004 Minnesota Twins, 6-15 2007 Cleveland Indians, 4-17 Original League 1909 Philadelphia Athletics, 16-5 2000 San Francisco Giants, 15-6 1992 Atlanta Braves, 14-7 1923 Pittsburgh Pirates, 13-8 1962 Los Angeles Dodgers, 13-8 1975 Cincinnati Reds, 13-8 1970 Pittsburgh Pirates, 12-9 2001 San Francisco Giants, 12-9 1966 Baltimore Orioles, 11-10 1987 New York Mets, 11-10 1902 Pittsburgh Pirates, 11-10 1952 Cleveland Indians, 10-11 2015 Pittsburgh Pirates, 10-11 1990 Montreal Expos, 10-11 1989 New York Mets, 10-11 1982 Los Angeles Dodgers, 9-12 1956 Chicago White Sox, 9-12 1911 New York Giants, 9-12 2009 Los Angeles Dodgers, 9-12 1950 New York Yankees, 9-12 1976 Cincinnati Reds, 8-13 1930 Philadelphia Athletics, 6-15 1980 Houston Astros, 6-15 1916 New York Giants, 6-15 |
09-30-2017, 12:55 PM | #38 |
Minors (Triple A)
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League 2-5 January Update:
Original League 1 1974 Cincinnati Reds, 15-6 2010 Philadelphia Phillies, 14-6 1993 Philadelphia Phillies, 13-8 1992 St. Louis Cardinals, 13-8 1972 Chicago Cubs, 13-8 1975 Los Angeles Dodgers, 13-8 1926 Philadelphia Athletics, 12-8 1969 Baltimore Orioles, 12-8 1966 Los Angeles Dodgers, 12-8 1955 Cleveland Indians, 12-8 2007 Colorado Rockies, 12-9 1906 Pittsburgh Pirates, 12-9 1964 Baltimore Orioles, 11-9 1984 Philadelphia Phillies, 11-9 1958 New York Yankees, 11-9 1914 Philadelphia Athletics, 11-9 1984 Pittsburgh Pirates, 11-10 1999 Atlanta Braves, 10-10 1999 New York Mets, 10-11 1910 Chicago Cubs, 10-11 2003 Atlanta Braves, 10-11 2002 Atlanta Braves, 9-11 1969 Detroit Tigers, 9-11 1963 New York Yankees, 9-11 1990 New York Mets, 9-11 1924 Cincinnati Reds, 8-12 1941 Boston Red Sox, 8-12 2004 Chicago Cubs, 8-12 1915 Chicago White Sox, 8-13 1982 St. Louis Cardinals, 8-13 2004 San Francisco Giants, 8-13 1974 Pittsburgh Pirates, 7-13 1951 New York Yankees, 6-14 2001 Atlanta Braves, 6-14 1923 Cleveland Indians, 6-14 Original League 2 1991 Pittsburgh Pirates, 15-6 1908 New York Giants, 14-6 1965 Cincinnati Reds, 13-7 1999 Houston Astros, 13-8 1955 Chicago White Sox, 12-8 1995 Cincinnati Reds, 12-8 1901 Pittsburgh Pirates, 12-9 1984 Houston Astros, 12-9 1912 Boston Red Sox, 12-9 1949 Boston Red Sox, 12-9 1902 Philadelphia Athletics, 11-9 1978 Philadelphia Phillies, 11-9 2008 Philadelphia Phillies, 11-9 1910 Philadelphia Athletics, 11-10 1952 St. Louis Cardinals, 11-10 1954 Cleveland Indians, 10-10 1913 Cleveland Naps, 10-10 1982 Montreal Expos, 10-10 1965 Milwaukee Braves, 10-10 1998 San Francisco Giants, 10-10 2013 St. Louis Cardinals, 10-10 1968 San Francisco Giants, 10-10 1948 Cleveland Indians, 10-10 1977 Cincinnati Reds, 9-11 1940 Detroit Tigers, 9-11 1995 Houston Astros, 9-12 2014 Los Angeles Dodgers, 9-12 1919 Cleveland Indians, 9-12 1939 Detroit Tigers, 8-12 1977 Los Angeles Dodgers, 8-12 2012 Atlanta Braves, 8-13 1980 Philadelphia Phillies, 8-13 1979 Montreal Expos, 7-13 1946 Boston Red Sox, 6-15 1992 Montreal Expos, 6-15 |
09-30-2017, 12:56 PM | #39 |
Minors (Triple A)
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League 2-6 January Update:
Original League 2005 Philadelphia Phillies, 14-7 1903 Cleveland Naps, 13-8 1964 Philadelphia Phillies, 13-8 1970 Los Angeles Dodgers, 12-9 1965 Detroit Tigers, 12-9 1943 St. Louis Cardinals, 11-10 1962 Milwaukee Braves, 11-10 1966 Pittsburgh Pirates, 11-10 1927 New York Yankees, 11-10 1969 New York Mets, 11-10 2011 Philadelphia Phillies, 11-10 1937 New York Yankees, 11-10 1984 Chicago Cubs, 11-10 1966 Atlanta Braves, 11-10 1952 New York Yankees, 10-11 1952 Brooklyn Dodgers, 10-11 1933 Atlanta Braves, 10-11 1987 San Francisco Giants, 10-11 1946 Detroit Tigers, 10-11 1965 San Francisco Giants, 10-11 1944 St. Louis Cardinals, 9-12 1982 Pittsburgh Pirates, 9-12 1925 Washington Senators, 6-15 1972 Los Angeles Dodgers, 5-16 DH League 2002 Oakland Athletics, 15-6 2001 New York Yankees, 14-7 1989 Kansas City Royals, 13-8 1996 Texas Rangers, 13-8 1984 New York Yankees, 13-8 2004 Oakland Athletics, 12-9 1996 New York Yankees, 11-10 1997 Seattle Mariners, 11-10 1980 New York Yankees, 11-10 2009 New York Yankees, 11-10 2003 Seattle Mariners, 11-10 2012 Chicago White Sox, 10-11 1978 Boston Red Sox, 10-11 2006 Minnesota Twins, 10-11 2012 New York Yankees, 10-11 1996 Seattle Mariners, 10-11 2012 Los Angeles Angels, 10-11 2004 Boston Red Sox, 10-11 1992 Toronto Blue Jays, 9-12 1973 Baltimore Orioles, 9-12 2003 Boston Red Sox, 8-13 2014 Baltimore Orioles, 8-13 2005 New York Yankees, 7-14 2011 New York Yankees, 6-15 |
09-30-2017, 12:57 PM | #40 |
Minors (Triple A)
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My tournament has led me to reflect a lot on the nature of success as perceived in retrospect. One of the things that tends to throw off OOTP from recreating what happened historically is that often extreme performances are beneficiaries of luck.
Take 1968 Bob Gibson for example. The best single-season ERA of all-time past 1906 belongs to Bob Gibson's 1968 season, where he put up an ERA of 1.12. Now 1968 was a super pitcher-friendly year; the NL average ERA was only 2.99. Even still, 1.12 is an insane performance, and it rightly ranks as one of the best years ever by a pitcher in the modern era. However, in my SuperTournament 1968 Bob Gibson is considered one of the very best pitchers, but hardly the best by a mile (which his ERA suggests he is). This is because, while he was the best pitcher in the NL, it wasn't by as much as it looked like. He put up a FIP of 1.77 (obviously higher than his ERA) which still led the NL but Don Moose and Don Sutton put up 2.06 and 2.08 respectively, Tom Seaver pitched a 2.22. He was the best pitcher in the league, definitely. But compare that to ERA where he pitched a 1.12 ERA season, and the next closest was Bobby Bolin at 1.99. So what gives? Bob Gibson was had a career .268 BABIP, which is exceptional but not a surprise given that he dominated batters so thoroughly. But in 1968 his BABIP was .230. He was lucky. Really, really, lucky. So you have what was clearly one of the better seasons ever, but because of how lucky he was it looked like the best season ever. OOTP ignores the luck. This makes its Bob Gibson more accurate to the player's actual skill, but less accurate to the results of the year. Also, slight nonsequitor, I don't think that fielding-dependent teams are going to do very well in this tournament for a similar reason. For example. The 2001 Seattle Mariners put up a great freaking season, hitting 140 runs above average and allowing 160 runs below average. This combined for a 109-53 pythag. Great team right? And yet. Of those 160 runs allowed below average, 107 were fielding runs. Which makes the remaining 53 runs allowed remaining from pitching, except that Safeco is a pitcher-friendly park. Short version: Seattle's bats were great but their pitching was only slightly above average. Their fielding was so out of control good that it pushed the team from very good into truly great. But fielding year-to-year is very volatile and OOTP tends to stabilize this by taking the fielding from three years; the year in question and the ones on either side. But, you may be saying, the 2001 Seattle Mariners were a great fielding team and they had more or less the same team in both 2000 and 2002, so surely they'd be good in those years, right? From 2000 to 2002 the Mariners put up +29, +107, +5. 2001 was a year where a very good fielding team put up a monstrously good year, but it was clearly not duplicatable. And OOTP knows that and rates Seattle as just the very good fielding team, but certainly not the +107 team it happened to be that year since the +107 was clearly a super-fluke. Realistic, but not intuitive. |
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