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01-17-2019, 05:52 PM | #1 |
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Catcher Ability
Does the Catcher Ability rating affect pitchers in any way? In other words are things like pitch selection or framing modeled here?
I assume the other rating called Catcher (the position rating) is only used for balls in play. |
01-17-2019, 06:11 PM | #2 |
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Catcher ability is fielding the position plus framing. Catcher arm strength figures into caught stealing.
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01-17-2019, 06:30 PM | #3 |
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Comparing the Catcher's ERA suggests that there is a positive effect, it's hard to quantify because exporting stats mixes catching stats with other positions (a player like Buster Posey will have a much lower CERA in the exportable stats screen than he does on his playing card because of the innings at 1B adding in to his innings at C in the league stats). Maybe I'm just not seeing how to separate them in the league stats, would be great if they could be.
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01-17-2019, 06:32 PM | #4 |
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If that's true then what is the rating only called Catcher for?
To be clear catchers are special and have two ratings. Catcher and Catcher Ability. Last edited by runyan99; 01-17-2019 at 06:35 PM. |
01-17-2019, 06:55 PM | #5 |
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I believe the rating only called catcher is the overall defensive value for the catcher, taking into account ability, arm, and experience. Much the same way the overall defensive value of a SS takes into account range, arm, double play ability, errors, and experience at SS.
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01-17-2019, 07:14 PM | #6 |
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From the OOTP manual. It's strange that arm is mentioned in ability...
Catcher Ability Catcher Ability is a measure of a catcher's overall catching skill. Catcher Ability isn't truly a distinct rating. It is more of a composite number based on a combination of the player's defensive skills (arm, error, range) and his experience at the position. Catcher Arm Catcher Arm is a measure of a catcher's arm. Catchers with higher Catcher Arm are more likely to throw out runners stealing a base. Catchers with high Catcher Arm ratings could also cause opposing managers to think twice before attempting a steal. FYI, there's no underlying ratings shown in the editor, so I've got to think a higher catcher ability scales up all the aspects of catching proportionately (i.e. someone can't be both excellent at framing and dog**** at passed balls like Yasmani Grandal in real life). Last edited by DonkeyKongSr; 01-17-2019 at 07:18 PM. |
01-17-2019, 08:56 PM | #7 | |
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01-17-2019, 09:15 PM | #8 |
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01-17-2019, 09:55 PM | #9 |
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Somebody said that a high Catcher Ability would help low Control pitchers a lot due to their superior pitch framing. I can certainly understand that, but does that mean that a high Catcher Ability doesn't help higher Control pitchers as well?
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01-17-2019, 10:17 PM | #10 |
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If a high control guy can hit a spot just out of the zone repeatedly and the catcher can bring it in every time, he can benefit just as much.
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04-09-2019, 10:21 AM | #11 |
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Makes me wonder if a rotation full of high movement guys would benefit most from high ability catchers. Definitely difficult to quantify, unless you start counting strikes % per pairing. It would be great to be able to "lock" a catcher to a rotation spot.
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04-09-2019, 10:26 AM | #12 |
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You can do that in the 7 day lineups. I have always loved the 7 day lineup for everything. I wish they would have extended it to far more then the 7 days it is. But it is a wonderful tool.
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