Contract length

krownroyal83 · 10-08-2015, 10:20 PM

I don't know about anyone else but i don't see star players being signed for long term contracts for the money i think they should be getting. For example Stamkos re-signed with TB but for only two more years and for only 7.7 million which is only 200k more a year then he's currently making.
I can understand a younger 20 year old superstar only getting a slight bump in pay. Usually this is called a bridge deal but for someone like Stamkos who is in his prime and is an established superstar he should be getting a long term deal worth a lot of money. I would say something along the lines of 9-10 million a year for 5 years minimum. In real life these guys are looking to get the most money they can and the game should reflect that other wise you'll never really run into cap issues and as we know that's a common thing these days and one of the things i find fun about hockey sim games.

beezer2434 · 10-08-2015, 10:38 PM

Ive noticed this too where everyone signs a 2 or 3 year deal. Havent come across one longer than 3 years

Parker27 · 10-08-2015, 11:55 PM

In my game Stamkos signed 7 year contract extension. 8,250,000 milj per year.

shinomourikenji · 10-09-2015, 12:57 AM

I would have to agree with this. I have played through a couple different saves playing around and learning some things about the game. In my most recent one I took over an expansion team traded the house to get stamkos and he took a short term big money deal 2 years 10.5 mil a season. But in both of the other games stammer ended up staying with the lightning on short term deals for the same money he had?

I mean honestly if he didn't want a big contract he would already be signed IRL. I did notice this in the old game aswell, Most big name players would take fairly small contracts well into their late 20's, then you would need to over pay them once they hit 30 (Big money long term deals that were aweful by the end of the duration).

JeffR · 10-09-2015, 02:26 AM

Long contracts can lead to some nasty cap issues for AI teams, even with the steps we've taken (e.g. compliance buyouts) to allow them to weasel out of really big mistakes. Since leaguewide cap issues are probably the single worst thing that can happen to roster management in the game (it leads to a chain of catastrophic AI problems when no team can find a trading partner for salary dumps), I prefer to be pretty conservative when it comes to having AI teams make long-term commitments. They'll still make long-term deals, as attested to above, but they're not quite as frequent as real life.

krownroyal83 · 10-09-2015, 05:28 AM

Thanks for the explanation Jeff. Maybe this is something that can be changed down the road if the AI gets smarter with cap management but like you said now would cause major problems which would be worse.

beezer2434 · 10-09-2015, 08:20 AM

Thanks jeff that makes sense!

I did sim out 10 years and saw there were a bunch of contracts for 5-8 years. Not too many but enough contracts.

And i also saw draft picks being trading which is good.

zyberianwarrior · 10-09-2015, 05:44 PM

FYI Bettman hates long term contracts too. And just ask the Islanders how DiPietro is doing....

10-08-2015, 10:20 PM	#1
krownroyal83 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 905	Contract length I don't know about anyone else but i don't see star players being signed for long term contracts for the money i think they should be getting. For example Stamkos re-signed with TB but for only two more years and for only 7.7 million which is only 200k more a year then he's currently making. I can understand a younger 20 year old superstar only getting a slight bump in pay. Usually this is called a bridge deal but for someone like Stamkos who is in his prime and is an established superstar he should be getting a long term deal worth a lot of money. I would say something along the lines of 9-10 million a year for 5 years minimum. In real life these guys are looking to get the most money they can and the game should reflect that other wise you'll never really run into cap issues and as we know that's a common thing these days and one of the things i find fun about hockey sim games. Last edited by krownroyal83; 10-08-2015 at 10:47 PM.

10-08-2015, 10:38 PM	#2
beezer2434 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 254	Ive noticed this too where everyone signs a 2 or 3 year deal. Havent come across one longer than 3 years

10-08-2015, 11:55 PM	#3
Parker27 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 77	In my game Stamkos signed 7 year contract extension. 8,250,000 milj per year.

10-09-2015, 12:57 AM	#4
shinomourikenji Bat Boy Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 16	I would have to agree with this. I have played through a couple different saves playing around and learning some things about the game. In my most recent one I took over an expansion team traded the house to get stamkos and he took a short term big money deal 2 years 10.5 mil a season. But in both of the other games stammer ended up staying with the lightning on short term deals for the same money he had? I mean honestly if he didn't want a big contract he would already be signed IRL. I did notice this in the old game aswell, Most big name players would take fairly small contracts well into their late 20's, then you would need to over pay them once they hit 30 (Big money long term deals that were aweful by the end of the duration).

10-09-2015, 02:26 AM	#5
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 16,623	Long contracts can lead to some nasty cap issues for AI teams, even with the steps we've taken (e.g. compliance buyouts) to allow them to weasel out of really big mistakes. Since leaguewide cap issues are probably the single worst thing that can happen to roster management in the game (it leads to a chain of catastrophic AI problems when no team can find a trading partner for salary dumps), I prefer to be pretty conservative when it comes to having AI teams make long-term commitments. They'll still make long-term deals, as attested to above, but they're not quite as frequent as real life.

10-09-2015, 05:28 AM	#6
krownroyal83 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 905	Thanks for the explanation Jeff. Maybe this is something that can be changed down the road if the AI gets smarter with cap management but like you said now would cause major problems which would be worse.

10-09-2015, 08:20 AM	#7
beezer2434 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 254	Thanks jeff that makes sense! I did sim out 10 years and saw there were a bunch of contracts for 5-8 years. Not too many but enough contracts. And i also saw draft picks being trading which is good.

10-09-2015, 05:44 PM	#8
zyberianwarrior All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Columbia TN Posts: 1,461	FYI Bettman hates long term contracts too. And just ask the Islanders how DiPietro is doing....