Historical League Part 2

Jestre · 08-18-2014, 03:18 PM

I rarely see any straightforward Historical Leagues posting for openings anymore. I wonder if there are any left. Particularly ones that are in the 1901-1950 era. I used to commish the MLBC which started with OOTP2 with the 1905 season and lasted thru the 1980 season with OOTP 6.5 . Have been kicking the tires on maybe jumping back into joining a league but I don't ever see any that fit my criteria. Are there any historical leagues that use only historical players with historical league structure??? Seems they all are fictional, or random entry or some relegation type crap or some other hybrid league if they aren't modern leagues....

I posted this previously and all I managed to do was get people together to create another league that doesn't fall into the above criteria. So here's to trying to get interest sparked again...

deuelz · 08-18-2014, 03:44 PM

Jestre, what exactly are you looking for? A recalc league? Where guys perform exactly how they did in real life? Just curious.

Jestre · 08-18-2014, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by deuelz

Jestre, what exactly are you looking for? A recalc league? Where guys perform exactly how they did in real life? Just curious.

Nope just an historical league in the early days of modern baseball. Just don't want ahistorical setup such as free agency, fictional/minor league players, relegation, random entry, non-mlb players added ie negro leaguers. Just a straight-forward historical league in the early days of modern baseball.

deuelz · 08-18-2014, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jestre

Nope just an historical league in the early days of modern baseball. Just don't want ahistorical setup such as free agency, fictional/minor league players, relegation, random entry, non-mlb players added ie negro leaguers. Just a straight-forward historical league in the early days of modern baseball.

Got it...well if you find one let me know

I'd run one but im tied up in too many leagues these days to start another one.

baseballonly · 08-18-2014, 07:50 PM

Not exactly what you're looking for, but closest that I know of: Max Retro Baseball

DWK · 08-18-2014, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jestre

Nope just an historical league in the early days of modern baseball. Just don't want ahistorical setup such as free agency, fictional/minor league players, relegation, random entry, non-mlb players added ie negro leaguers. Just a straight-forward historical league in the early days of modern baseball.

And no pre drafting your team you start with the players that are on the team that year.

If someone is going to startup a league like this I'm in.

Bigdummie · 08-18-2014, 10:39 PM

This is exactly what I am looking for also. Count me in if this is possible

Bristolduke · 08-19-2014, 09:17 AM

To me to be historical, it needs to be recalc. I've been in too many leagues where Cristy Mathewson can't make the majors or Dave Kingman is a triple crown and gold glove winner. To me that's fictional with real player names.

That's why I passed on the other league.

Like many, everyone has their own flavor.

That is mine.

Jestre · 08-19-2014, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bristolduke

To me to be historical, it needs to be recalc. I've been in too many leagues where Cristy Mathewson can't make the majors or Dave Kingman is a triple crown and gold glove winner. To me that's fictional with real player names.

That's why I passed on the other league.

Like many, everyone has their own flavor.

That is mine.

Recalc would be part of a historical league....

legendsport · 08-19-2014, 10:03 AM

I'd be willing to run a league with those parameters, though I'd probably prefer to start in 1930.

I ran Greatest Generation Baseball which started with OOTP 4 (I think - it was a long time ago) and ran from 1941 thru 1962 and died off in a misguided attempt to go from 6.5 to OOTP 2007 or whatever the first SI-based version was.

I'm currently launching my 1979 league, but if there's interest in a straight, stock-roster, recalc-based historical league in the 30s, I'd definitely commish it and host it on my site at simsportleagues.com

- Joe

Jestre · 08-19-2014, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by legendsport

I'd be willing to run a league with those parameters, though I'd probably prefer to start in 1930.

I ran Greatest Generation Baseball which started with OOTP 4 (I think - it was a long time ago) and ran from 1941 thru 1962 and died off in a misguided attempt to go from 6.5 to OOTP 2007 or whatever the first SI-based version was.

I'm currently launching my 1979 league, but if there's interest in a straight, stock-roster, recalc-based historical league in the 30s, I'd definitely commish it and host it on my site at simsportleagues.com

- Joe

Sounds good to me, just need enough interest.

Seems deadball baseball doesn't get much love, personally I find it the most fascinating period of baseball....

SilverSlugger · 08-19-2014, 06:18 PM

I would definitely be interested in a league with those exact parameters.

legendsport · 08-19-2014, 08:02 PM

Sounds like this might have some momentum. I can probably bring in six to eight guys from my other leagues to round out the original group of GMs, but I'd like to give the folks in this thread first crack since this is where the idea originated.

It's looking like:

1930 start with stock rosters
Recalc On
Coaches & Scouts Off
2-8 Rating Scale
Retire according to history
Players miss seasons
Players enter league via draft

Anything in there people don't like/what to do differently? This is probably as close to a straight historical league as we could do.

DWK · 08-19-2014, 08:25 PM

I'd be in if this gets off the ground

Bigdummie · 08-19-2014, 10:07 PM

I'm in. Thanks

Bristolduke · 08-20-2014, 09:55 AM

Could it start in 1920? Just after the Blacksox scandal.

legendsport · 08-20-2014, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bristolduke

Could it start in 1920? Just after the Blacksox scandal.

Unfortunately I've done the 20s a bunch and while it's a fun era, I'm looking to go with the 30s this time around. The "Babe Ruth" factor is less strong after 1930 since other sluggers were coming along and the Babe wasn't outhomering every team in baseball any longer.

There are really three leagues I'd love to do: an 80s league (which I am currently recruiting for), a 30s league and a "start from the beginning" league that would start in 1871 and do a season a week until 1900 and then go to a slower pace.

Jestre · 08-20-2014, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by legendsport

There are really three leagues I'd love to do: an 80s league (which I am currently recruiting for), a 30s league and a "start from the beginning" league that would start in 1871 and do a season a week until 1900 and then go to a slower pace.

I am game for either the 30's or the 1871 one.

SilverSlugger · 08-20-2014, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jestre

I am game for either the 30's or the 1871 one.

Same here.

MarkInCincy · 08-21-2014, 06:19 AM

I would be in an any era lg run by legendsport

08-18-2014, 03:18 PM	#1
Jestre All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North Smithfield,Ri,USA Posts: 612	Historical League Part 2 I rarely see any straightforward Historical Leagues posting for openings anymore. I wonder if there are any left. Particularly ones that are in the 1901-1950 era. I used to commish the MLBC which started with OOTP2 with the 1905 season and lasted thru the 1980 season with OOTP 6.5 . Have been kicking the tires on maybe jumping back into joining a league but I don't ever see any that fit my criteria. Are there any historical leagues that use only historical players with historical league structure??? Seems they all are fictional, or random entry or some relegation type crap or some other hybrid league if they aren't modern leagues.... I posted this previously and all I managed to do was get people together to create another league that doesn't fall into the above criteria. So here's to trying to get interest sparked again... __________________ My eyes perceive the present, but my roots are imbedded deeply in the grandeur of the past. "Chief Meyers"

08-18-2014, 07:50 PM	#5
baseballonly All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 806	Not exactly what you're looking for, but closest that I know of: Max Retro Baseball __________________ Former OOTP Leagues: CBL-Admirals (2016-17 Champs) MMB-Phillies

08-19-2014, 09:17 AM	#8
Bristolduke All Star Starter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,404	To me to be historical, it needs to be recalc. I've been in too many leagues where Cristy Mathewson can't make the majors or Dave Kingman is a triple crown and gold glove winner. To me that's fictional with real player names. That's why I passed on the other league. Like many, everyone has their own flavor. That is mine. __________________ Commish of the Home Nations Baseball Association Commish of the Baseball Association League Commish of the League of WAR Commish of the On-Line Dynasty League SIMBL2 - Westbury Cannons Great Lakes Baseball - Toledo Neptunes World Baseball - Guantanamo Marines OMLB - Cincinnati Reds

08-19-2014, 10:03 AM	#10
legendsport Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Behind The Lens Posts: 2,867	I'd be willing to run a league with those parameters, though I'd probably prefer to start in 1930. I ran Greatest Generation Baseball which started with OOTP 4 (I think - it was a long time ago) and ran from 1941 thru 1962 and died off in a misguided attempt to go from 6.5 to OOTP 2007 or whatever the first SI-based version was. I'm currently launching my 1979 league, but if there's interest in a straight, stock-roster, recalc-based historical league in the 30s, I'd definitely commish it and host it on my site at simsportleagues.com - Joe __________________ Hexed & Countered on YouTube Figment League - A fictional history of baseball - Want to join in the fun? Shoot me a PM! Read the story of the Barrell Family - A Figment Baseball tale The Figment Sports Universe - More Fake Sports Than You Can Shake a Stick At!

08-19-2014, 08:02 PM	#13
legendsport Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Behind The Lens Posts: 2,867	Sounds like this might have some momentum. I can probably bring in six to eight guys from my other leagues to round out the original group of GMs, but I'd like to give the folks in this thread first crack since this is where the idea originated. It's looking like: 1930 start with stock rosters Recalc On Coaches & Scouts Off 2-8 Rating Scale Retire according to history Players miss seasons Players enter league via draft Anything in there people don't like/what to do differently? This is probably as close to a straight historical league as we could do. __________________ Hexed & Countered on YouTube Figment League - A fictional history of baseball - Want to join in the fun? Shoot me a PM! Read the story of the Barrell Family - A Figment Baseball tale The Figment Sports Universe - More Fake Sports Than You Can Shake a Stick At!

08-18-2014, 03:44 PM	#2
deuelz Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Redlands, CA. Posts: 271	Jestre, what exactly are you looking for? A recalc league? Where guys perform exactly how they did in real life? Just curious.

08-18-2014, 10:39 PM	#7
Bigdummie Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: West Michigan Posts: 358	This is exactly what I am looking for also. Count me in if this is possible

08-19-2014, 06:18 PM	#12
SilverSlugger Bat Boy Join Date: May 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 8	I would definitely be interested in a league with those exact parameters.

08-19-2014, 08:25 PM	#14
DWK All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Somewhere in South Carolina Posts: 636	I'd be in if this gets off the ground

08-19-2014, 10:07 PM	#15
Bigdummie Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: West Michigan Posts: 358	I'm in. Thanks

08-20-2014, 09:55 AM	#16
Bristolduke All Star Starter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,404	Could it start in 1920? Just after the Blacksox scandal. __________________ Commish of the Home Nations Baseball Association Commish of the Baseball Association League Commish of the League of WAR Commish of the On-Line Dynasty League SIMBL2 - Westbury Cannons Great Lakes Baseball - Toledo Neptunes World Baseball - Guantanamo Marines OMLB - Cincinnati Reds

08-21-2014, 06:19 AM	#20
MarkInCincy All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Cincinnait, OH (WestSider) Posts: 657	I would be in an any era lg run by legendsport __________________ "A baseball fan has the digestive apparatus of a billy goat. He can, and does, devour any set of statistics with insatiable appetite and then nuzzles hungrily for more." - Sportswriter Arthur Daley "Who says there's an unemployment problem in this country? Just take the five percent unemployed and give them a baseball stat to follow." - Outfielder Andy Van Slyke