Utba

[SAL]

Originally Posted by Romdawg88

So did any of the guys you wanted from the draft pool still around.

The new rules look great, I'm cool with them.

Only 1 of them survived. I'd have to re-work my whole roster to get him. It's not worth it. So I'll stick with my original. I'm sure it will have to change once the other rosters come in.

[bigMatt]

Originally Posted by SAL

I sat in front of my computer for 13 hours with few and little breaks Friday.
Spent another 9 hours today. That's to much. With this new format, it will only require that I be on for 5 hours. I can handle that a lot better.

Thanks for all the hard work Scot. Knowing how much time I spent just chewing over my picks, I know your time commitment was multiplied many times over.

Once again, great job as always. However the draft needs to be adjusted to work best for you is okay by me.

[SAL]

Undisputed Champions grant the release to the following fighters:

HW (7)Tom Heeney 8-12-0 (5) *pre-prime

LHW (4)Daniel Judah 8-23-1 (6) *pre-prime

LHW (8)Glencoffe Johnson 20-14-2 (8) *pre-prime

MW (4)Curtis Parker 0-2-0 (0) *beginning

WW (6)Edwin Cassiani 2-4-0 (2) *beginning

LW (5)Jimmy Soo 13-19-2 (11) *pre-prime

BW (2)Eloy Sanchez 4-16-0 (3) *pre-prime

They have been added to the Draft/Free Agent Pool.

Undisputed Champions roster has been updated. Their cap now stands at 93, 12 below the maximum.

[bigMatt]

Bonner Springs Bald Beavers (bigMatt)
(cap points = 111)

HW
(8)Ike Ibeabuchi 30-13-1 (21) * pre-prime
(6)Matt Skelton 16-20-1 (6) * pre-prime

LHW
(6)Fabrice Tiozzo 0-0-0 (0) *beginning
(6)Eddie Cotton 26-18-0 (14) *pre-prime

MW
(11)Mickey Walker 47-1-0 (40) *pre-prime - UTBA Champion
(9)Charles Kid McCoy 12-8-1 (9) *pre-prime

WW
(6)Carlos Quintana 23-19-0 (10) *pre-prime
(8)Zab Judah 26-9-1 (9) *pre-prime

LW
(5)Lew Jenkins 16-23-1 (4) *pre-prime
(7)Jim Watt 0-0-0 (0) *beginning

FW
(4)Torpedo Billy Murphy 8-16-0 (5) *pre-prime
(7)Bernard Taylor 28-13-3 (13) * pre-prime

BW
(10)Jimmy Carruthers 0-0-0 (0) *beginning
(4)Rodolfo Martinez 13-20-5 (8) *pre-prime

Fly
(6)Luis Maldonado 18-20-2 (14) *pre-prime
(8)Guty Espadas 7-8-1 (3) *pre-prime


Jimmy Carruthers joins the club as one of the top rated Bantams in the division. He is a huge upgrade over the always-disappointing Johnny Carter, who, as an 8, couldn't even pull a .500 record. He'll endure some early career challenges from excellent division bantams like Becerra, no doubt, but I anticipate he'll vie for the title at some point in his UTBA career. At worst, he will do much better than the pathetic Carter.

Zab is a huge upgrade at WW for the Beavers, despite the relative success of Mark Breland. I am very excited with the addition of Judah, who looks like he'll be a great fighter for me. Kid McCoy was my own contribution to the UTBA pool at the beginning of last season, and I like having him on the squad, even though the loss of Beaver favorite Carmen Basilio will no doubt be felt for seasons to come. I believe that Basilio is among the top half dozen 9's in the game, and has been absolutely dominant in his UTBA career. McCoy is not on Basilio's level, but I believe better than the average 9 despite some earlier career struggles. Time will tell.

I firmly believe that Jim Watt will surprise - his ratings look very strong - great combo of good power and defense. He's not Diego Corrales of course, but he only cost me a 7 on the ratings cap. Tiozzo, while carrying the same rating as George Khalid Jones, is I think a decent upgrade as well.

The guys I'm keeping are ones I really like. My HW's are both keepers - I still have some hopes for Skelton despite a disappointing season, and of course, big Ike has been very solid for me. Cotton has had an excellent UTBA career so far and I'm hoping Tiozzo can steal some wins as well. Walker has to be concerned with the infusion of new MW fighters in the league, and with Basilio now an opponent. I still think he's the best fighter in the league - at least until Monzon proves otherwise. My welters have always been remarkably successful for being a pair of 6's, and now Quintana has the superior Judah as his partner. Jenkins had a good first season but struggled last season. He'll have another year to make some inroads with new partner Watt. Bernard Taylor has been one of the team's best fighters. He and Torpedo Tommy stay at FW for now. I am hoping Carruthers picks up the weak lighter divisions, which still may see some shuffling as the Beavers squeeze under the cap.

With a couple of rookies, and some downsizing left to do, it may be a down year for the Beavers, but I like the additions, and mostly, the changes add to the fun, which is why I'm here in the first place.

[CONN CHRIS]

Originally Posted by SAL

I sat in front of my computer for 13 hours with few and little breaks Friday.
Spent another 9 hours today. That's to much. With this new format, it will only require that I be on for 5 hours. I can handle that a lot better.

Excellent decision Scot. While I appreciate all your efforts, the way the first two drafts have gone simply is not fair to you. (Even though this one was much improved)

[Romdawg88]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

Excellent decision Scot. While I appreciate all your efforts, the way the first two drafts have gone simply is not fair to you. (Even though this one was much improved)

Agreed, SAL deserves a freaking medal for all the work he's put into both of these drafts. These new rules should make his life abit easier come draft time.

[SAL]

Originally Posted by bigMatt

Thanks for all the hard work Scot. Knowing how much time I spent just chewing over my picks, I know your time commitment was multiplied many times over.
However the draft needs to be adjusted to work best for you is okay by me.

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

Excellent decision Scot. While I appreciate all your efforts, the way the first two drafts have gone simply is not fair to you. (Even though this one was much improved)

Originally Posted by Romdawg88

Agreed, SAL deserves a freaking medal for all the work he's put into both of these drafts. These new rules should make his life abit easier come draft time.

Thanks guys. I hope the rest of the managers feel the same way you do as the new rules for drafting will make my life so much better during draft time.

[Ian Lord]

The Tile Hill Top Team cut bantamweight Willie Smith [4] from their roster.
We also offer HW Paulino Uzcudan [9], and MW Dick Tiger [11] up for trade for first round draft picks next season. First come, first served.

[mh2365]

Originally Posted by SAL

Thanks guys. I hope the rest of the managers feel the same way you do as the new rules for drafting will make my life so much better during draft time.

Agree with everything said about the job you've done.

[mh2365]

The real question Big Matt, is how are you going to drop the 6 points you are over cap?

[Ian Lord]

Originally Posted by mh2365

Agree with everything said about the job you've done.

Ditto. Cheers Sal.

[vistaman44]

... and the draft were very well run, especially this second season. Thanks, Scot.

[Claybor]

Is 1 point for a KO too much? The reason I ask this is that I find myself passing up good fighters for similar good fighters with power. A win is a win and should'nt be devalued by the KO as much in my opinion. I was wondering if the current point scheme puts too much into the KO. I was thinking that 3 points for a win, 2 points for a draw and 1 point for a KO/TKO would put some of the lower hitting power guys back in business. Just my opinion, and just because I hate to see good fighters passed up because they dont hit hard.

[bigMatt]

Originally Posted by mh2365

The real question Big Matt, is how are you going to drop the 6 points you are over cap?

A smokin' free agency wire will soon reveal my dastardly plan mooohahaha

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by Claybor

Is 1 point for a KO too much? The reason I ask this is that I find myself passing up good fighters for similar good fighters with power. A win is a win and should'nt be devalued by the KO as much in my opinion. I was wondering if the current point scheme puts too much into the KO. I was thinking that 3 points for a win, 2 points for a draw and 1 point for a KO/TKO would put some of the lower hitting power guys back in business. Just my opinion, and just because I hate to see good fighters passed up because they dont hit hard.

At first I would have said yes, now that I revamped my entire roster to fit this scoring system I certainly hope we dont change it any time soon. I dont think a draw should be worth 2 points however!

[bear]

Originally Posted by Claybor

Is 1 point for a KO too much? The reason I ask this is that I find myself passing up good fighters for similar good fighters with power. A win is a win and should'nt be devalued by the KO as much in my opinion. I was wondering if the current point scheme puts too much into the KO. I was thinking that 3 points for a win, 2 points for a draw and 1 point for a KO/TKO would put some of the lower hitting power guys back in business. Just my opinion, and just because I hate to see good fighters passed up because they dont hit hard.

Claybor
I had the rules in mind when I formed my expansion club. They've been inplay for two seasons and I think everybody is working with them by now. Your idea might be more fair, and allow for slick boxers to be valuable, but I think it would be too difficult to shift horses in mid stream. If we were starting all over from scratch I'd opt to use your idea without any question. I rejected a trade offer that would have given me Kid Chocolate and an 8-rated fly but it involved Chitalada and I nixed the deal because Chitalada gives me more bang for the buck in the flies.

Bear

[bear]

Originally Posted by SAL

This one is a biggie. Some guys will have no problem with it but I think others may.

Items in blue are what I changed or added.



When we get ready to draft after the next season, I can set up a schedule.
Example:
3:00 - 3:05 pm CST - Oakland Assassins
3:05 - 3:10 pm CST - McCune Mitt Slingers
3:10 - 3:15 pm CST - Left Jab Inc
3:15 - 3:20 pm CST - Hebron Haymakers
3:20 - 3:25 pm CST - Muckboys
.......and so on
This way everyone will know exactly what time it will be when their turn in the draft is up.
If you know you will not be around, send a list and you will not miss a pick.

I sat in front of my computer for 13 hours with few and little breaks Friday.
Spent another 9 hours today. That's to much. With this new format, it will only require that I be on for 5 hours. I can handle that a lot better.

Scot
Even though this year's draft went smoother than last year I found myself spending about 18 hours online watching and following things. You had to be there all of the time and that makes things very hard for you. My 18 hours don't compare to yours, because you also had to do hectic updates. This should make things smoother all around. (The 3:00 PM CST start time wouldn't bother me even if I had to work, I'd be home by 2:30) and with everyone having a fixed timeslot it should work ok.

Bear

[SAL]

Originally Posted by Claybor

Is 1 point for a KO too much? The reason I ask this is that I find myself passing up good fighters for similar good fighters with power. A win is a win and should'nt be devalued by the KO as much in my opinion. I was wondering if the current point scheme puts too much into the KO. I was thinking that 3 points for a win, 2 points for a draw and 1 point for a KO/TKO would put some of the lower hitting power guys back in business. Just my opinion, and just because I hate to see good fighters passed up because they dont hit hard.

That sounds like a good point scheme. I kinda of wish we would've started out that way. I have to agree with the other managers here though, as they have built their teams for 2/3 years with the current point system in play. Icetea has proved that you can ditch power and go with slick boxers and still win the team title.
This is just my opinion, a win by stoppage should be better than a win on the scorecards. A KO/TKO is a guaranteed win where a bout that goes to the scorecards can sometimes go either way.

[SAL]

bigMatt asked a question earlier in the draft......................

Originally Posted by bigMatt

There are a handful of guys who are rated at more than one UTBA weight class. If an owner has one of these guys, can that fighter fight in the weight class of the owner's choice?

Take, for instance, Archie Moore. Now, granted, he is much more dominant as LHW. But let's just say, theoretically, that I had a guy like that and my division was weaker in HW than LHW, so I decide Moore will fight as HW this season. Next season, the division balance changes and HW is now stronger, so next year I release a LHW and move Moore to LHW.

I don't know that this has been discussed. Any thoughts?

..............and Mike got an answer from Andreas on the subject.

Originally Posted by Originally Posted by Andreas Raht

Andreas,
Just to make sure I was right. Changing rating records (like from LHW to HW on Archie Moore) doesn't effect the aging scheme right?

Should be right, yes

Changing the career stage manually will effect the aging scheme for that fighter. But changing the rating records shouldn't effect it.

So, I'll put it in the hands of the league managers to make a call on this one.
I have no problem if someone has one of these fighters and wants to change their weight class, as long as they declare it before the season starts and that fighter remains in that weight class until the end of the season. The said fighter would use whatever their rating is for said weight class and use that towards the team cap.

[SAL]

Romy posted a request to change the current team playoff system.
Instead of seeding the teams, he suggested we change the format to:
Round 1, East/West winner of the Gold and North/South winner of the Silver match-ups.
Round 2, winner from the two conference championships meet to determine team champion.
(This would give us a Conference Team Champ as well as overall league champion)

Posted below is the current rules for the playoffs.

Originally Posted by Posted from Rules of the UTBA

The UTBA Team Championship:
1) Four teams will qualify for the Team Championship tournament.

2) There will be a two round playoff.
The highest scoring teams in all four divisions will qualify for the playoffs.
The four teams that qualify will be seeded according to their teams total points accumulated during the season. Highest scoring team gets the #1 seed, 2nd highest scoring gets the #2 seed, 3rd highest scoring gets the #3 seed and the 4th highest scoring gets the #4 seed.
Playoff format will be as follows:
First round:
#1 vs. #4
#2 vs. #3
Second Round:
The two winners of the first round will meet to determine the UTBA Team Champion