2006 Oakland A's Thread - Page 94

mikev · 08-27-2006, 02:29 PM

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Scutaro has actually been a better offensive player this year.

But his .685 OPS is still horrible, and his defense is not very good.

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Wasn't Rouse primarily a shortstop all through the minors? I'd rather put him there and leave Ellis and his reconstructed arm at second.

I'm actually not sure where Rouse has been playing, I haven't kept up with the Rivercats much. I hope that at least ONE of Rouse/Ginter/Bocachica/Jimenez can step up and prove that they deserve to play. Scutaro is not a good option for a team that is trying to win the division.

JDOldSchool · 08-27-2006, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mikev

But his .685 OPS is still horrible, and his defense is not very good.

I still totally disagree with your critique of his defense. He had a bad inning last night, but overall he's good. I'm not sure if he's as good as Crosby, but he's still a quality defensive player. What he isn't is an everyday starting shortstop. But I'm not sure Crosby is either.

Maybe Beane can find a way to bring Tejada back this offseason.

mikev · 08-27-2006, 03:28 PM

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I still totally disagree with your critique of his defense. He had a bad inning last night, but overall he's good. I'm not sure if he's as good as Crosby, but he's still a quality defensive player. What he isn't is an everyday starting shortstop. But I'm not sure Crosby is either.

Maybe Beane can find a way to bring Tejada back this offseason.

I don't know why Scutaro is so well though of defensively. He's got terrible range and a noodle arm. I guess maybe since he's got to make "highlight reel" plays since he can barely get to balls, but Crosby is far and away a better defender than Scutaro is.

Green & Gold Heart · 08-27-2006, 08:27 PM

The Angels lost and are now 6 back. Let's add a .5 to that with a win tonight, homies.

Danny "Shake it Off" Haren vs. Vicente "Back-to-Back-to-Back" Padilla

Kendall
Kotsay
Bradley
Thomas
Chavez
Kielty
Swisher
Scutaro
Ellis

mikev · 08-27-2006, 11:18 PM

I pretty much feel the same way about Sauerbeck as a pitcher that I do about Scutaro as a hitter.

Green & Gold Heart · 08-27-2006, 11:20 PM

Well, that sucked. At least we keep the 5.5 game lead.

mikev · 08-29-2006, 01:44 AM

1. Loaiza has completely turned around his season, and I've never been happier to be proven wrong. I thought he was going to keep pitching like a POS.

2. Frank Thomas is good.

3. Swisher, too.

4. Not only was it great seeing Thomas and Swish homer in the same inning, it was double extra super great that they homered off Foulke!

Green & Gold Heart · 08-29-2006, 01:46 AM

6.5 is so close I can taste it...

I heart Loaiza, Thomas, Swisher, and Bradley. I even heart Kendall. I heart Chavvy despite his crappy hitting. Hey look, there's Joe Kennedy! I heart him too!

johnnyshaka · 08-29-2006, 01:47 AM

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3. Swisher, too.

Didn't look so good getting doubled off a couple innings before his homer.

Very nice to see Loaiza regain his form from a couple of years ago...hope it continues through October.

Green & Gold Heart · 08-29-2006, 01:58 AM

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4. Not only was it great seeing Thomas and Swish homer in the same inning, it was double extra super great that they homered off Foulke!

Even MELHUSE takes him deep! Yo, backup catcher!

mikev · 08-29-2006, 01:58 AM

MELHUSE!!!!!!!!!

I love that guy.

Green & Gold Heart · 08-29-2006, 02:08 AM

6.5!!!!

magnet · 08-29-2006, 02:12 AM

i hope the A's win the west.

so the Twins can dismantle them in october.

mikev · 08-29-2006, 02:14 AM

I'm happy about the win and the Halos loss, so I'm not going to mention how absolutely idiotic Macha is for using Kennedy and Gaudin instead of keeping them fresh and letting Witasuck/Sauerkraut pitch again today with a 9 run lead. Of course we'll probably win 9-0 again tomorrow and not need Gaudin or Kennedy anyways.

Green & Gold Heart · 08-29-2006, 02:22 AM

Seems like he uses Gaudin too much in mopup/blowout situations. Dude has a 2.74 ERA. I don't know why Macha doesn't trust him but hands Sauerkraut the ball with the game on the line.

mikev · 08-29-2006, 02:25 AM

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Seems like he uses Gaudin too much in mopup/blowout situations. Dude has a 2.74 ERA. I don't know why Macha doesn't trust him but hands Sauerkraut the ball with the game on the line.

I just don't know GGH.

Probably the same reason he put Yabu in against Manny with the bases loaded in the 10th last year and left Huston Street on the bench. *shrug*

JDOldSchool · 08-29-2006, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Green & Gold Heart

Seems like he uses Gaudin too much in mopup/blowout situations. Dude has a 2.74 ERA. I don't know why Macha doesn't trust him but hands Sauerkraut the ball with the game on the line.

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I just don't know GGH.

Probably the same reason he put Yabu in against Manny with the bases loaded in the 10th last year and left Huston Street on the bench. *shrug*

Maybe becuase Gaudin has 33 walks in 50 1/3 IP. He has more walks than strikeouts. Low HR rate, but giving up only 38 hits this year means he's been pretty lucky.

For comparison, Haren has walked 38 in 187.1 IP. Loaiza, who has been awful until a little over a month ago, has walked 35 in 117.2 IP.

Gaudin has been alright, but I don't trust him in close situations just yet.

mikev · 08-29-2006, 11:59 AM

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Maybe becuase Gaudin has 33 walks in 50 1/3 IP. He has more walks than strikeouts. Low HR rate, but giving up only 38 hits this year means he's been pretty lucky.

For comparison, Haren has walked 38 in 187.1 IP. Loaiza, who has been awful until a little over a month ago, has walked 35 in 117.2 IP.

Gaudin has been alright, but I don't trust him in close situations just yet.

Gaudin is the first guy I'd use if Calero/Duke/Street aren't available, Kennedy is the lefty version of him.

JDOldSchool · 08-29-2006, 12:27 PM

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Gaudin is the first guy I'd use if Calero/Duke/Street aren't available, Kennedy is the lefty version of him.

So Gaudin is the fourth best right-handed reliever. He's better than Witasick. Sure, he could've used Witasick, but it's not like he was using his best reliever in a 9-run game.

I'm also not too worried about Gaudin getting overworked. He's been a starter in the past. August also happens to be his least-worked month, aside from April (and he didn't spend the entire month with the team).

As for Kennedy, he's also a guy who can carry a heavier load. And in reality, he hasn't. He's pitched twice in the last week, including last night.

Gaudin and Kennedy are two guys who definitely have a spot on a playoff roster. Witasick and Sauerbeck are not. I'd much rather see Kennedy and Gaudin kept fresh at this point over getting Jay Witasick an inning.

mikev · 08-29-2006, 02:57 PM

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Gaudin and Kennedy are two guys who definitely have a spot on a playoff roster. Witasick and Sauerbeck are not. I'd much rather see Kennedy and Gaudin kept fresh at this point over getting Jay Witasick an inning.

I'd rather keep our best pitchers (with Street gone and Duke the de facto closer now, Gaudin is a 7th/8th inning stopper now) available for when they're needed and not use them in 9 run blowout wins.

08-27-2006, 11:18 PM	#1865
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	I pretty much feel the same way about Sauerbeck as a pitcher that I do about Scutaro as a hitter. __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

08-29-2006, 01:44 AM	#1867
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	1. Loaiza has completely turned around his season, and I've never been happier to be proven wrong. I thought he was going to keep pitching like a POS. 2. Frank Thomas is good. 3. Swisher, too. 4. Not only was it great seeing Thomas and Swish homer in the same inning, it was double extra super great that they homered off Foulke! __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

08-29-2006, 01:58 AM	#1871
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	MELHUSE!!!!!!!!! I love that guy. __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

08-29-2006, 02:14 AM	#1874
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	I'm happy about the win and the Halos loss, so I'm not going to mention how absolutely idiotic Macha is for using Kennedy and Gaudin instead of keeping them fresh and letting Witasuck/Sauerkraut pitch again today with a 9 run lead. Of course we'll probably win 9-0 again tomorrow and not need Gaudin or Kennedy anyways. __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

08-27-2006, 08:27 PM	#1864
Green & Gold Heart Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5,242	The Angels lost and are now 6 back. Let's add a .5 to that with a win tonight, homies. Danny "Shake it Off" Haren vs. Vicente "Back-to-Back-to-Back" Padilla Kendall Kotsay Bradley Thomas Chavez Kielty Swisher Scutaro Ellis

08-27-2006, 11:20 PM	#1866
Green & Gold Heart Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5,242	Well, that sucked. At least we keep the 5.5 game lead.

08-29-2006, 01:46 AM	#1868
Green & Gold Heart Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5,242	6.5 is so close I can taste it... I heart Loaiza, Thomas, Swisher, and Bradley. I even heart Kendall. I heart Chavvy despite his crappy hitting. Hey look, there's Joe Kennedy! I heart him too!

08-29-2006, 02:08 AM	#1872
Green & Gold Heart Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5,242	6.5!!!!

08-29-2006, 02:12 AM	#1873
magnet Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,029	i hope the A's win the west. so the Twins can dismantle them in october.

08-29-2006, 02:22 AM	#1875
Green & Gold Heart Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5,242	Seems like he uses Gaudin too much in mopup/blowout situations. Dude has a 2.74 ERA. I don't know why Macha doesn't trust him but hands Sauerkraut the ball with the game on the line.