Time Warp Baseball - Page 92

ifspuds · 07-27-2004, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt from TN

By the time Opening Day arrived, a total of 36 major leaguers had either enlisted or been drafted into the military. The most notable of these were Yankees centerfielder Jimmy Ditty, who enlisted within weeks of the Pearl Harbor bombings, and Reds centerfielder Flint Rutty, who hit .327 with 86 RBI in an all-star 1941 season.

Could we get a full list of those 36 players, Matt?

rogmax11 · 07-27-2004, 12:52 PM

Hmmm, I know I have Lebowski in my collection; I remember watching it with the lovely Simone a year or so ago. As I recall. I liked it, she thought it was "silly", and so back on the shelf it went. I'll have to pull it for review, if for no other reason than to refresh my obvious lack of cultural reference. Simone, though indeed lovely, is a bit prissy about slapstick/satire/violence, and I have probably conceded a bit too much to her tastes in my viewing habits. Thanks for the wake-up call.

Matt from TN · 07-27-2004, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by scprideandms

Bourbon still did not retire??? Somebody please give him a shot at 400!!!

I haven't posted the "retired ancestors" yet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ifspuds

Could we get a full list of those 36 players, Matt?

I went with 2 players per team (totally random)... at the season's halfway point, each team will lose 2 more... Most are gone until the 1946 season, although some just for 2 or 3 years... It's all based on the %'s that LGO posted in the TWB/WWII thread.

I've added them all to the "general news" output page so you can see them once I upload everything.

Matt from TN · 07-27-2004, 03:46 PM

Retiring Ancestors:

Bourbon Allen, SP
Boston Braves 1918-40

This oldest son of Hall of Famer Whiskey Allen had quite an accomplished baseball career. He retired as the all-time leader in wins, and he became the second pitcher in history to record over 500 complete games. He was the 1928 POY, and he won one World Series with the Braves. He retired with a 390-322 record (Most Wins and Most Losses All-Time), a 3.58 ERA, 1469 walks, 2128 K's (9th All-Time), 525 complete games (2nd All-Time), 52 shutouts (9th All-Time) and a 1.25 WHIP.

Sam Kass, CF
Pittsburgh Pirates 1920-34
Washington Senators 1934-41

Sam was the 1931 NL BOY with the Pirates, and he went on to win 2 World Series with the Senators, including one in his final season where he was named co-MVP. He retired with a .293 average, 3062 hits (15th All-Time), 540 doubles (9th All-Time), 297 homeruns (5th All-Time), 1847 RBI (Most All-Time), 1653 runs scored (9th All-Time), 816 walks and 184 steals.

Harry Finley, C
New York Yankees 1923-41

Finley was brought up by the Yankees primarily for his defense, but the team quickly found out they got a better player than they ever imagined. Finley set the standard for catchers with an impressive 10 Gold Gloves. He turned out to be an exceptional base-stealer, recording 30+ steals and finishing in the top 6 in the AL in all of his 13 full-time major league seasons. He won 5 World Series and retired with a .288 average, 1982 hits, 373 doubles, 87 homeruns, 910 RBI, 1139 runs scored, 508 walks and 632 steals (9th All-Time).

haggis007 · 07-27-2004, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt from TN

I went with 2 players per team (totally random)... at the season's halfway point, each team will lose 2 more... Most are gone until the 1946 season, although some just for 2 or 3 years... It's all based on the %'s that LGO posted in the TWB/WWII thread.

I've added them all to the "general news" output page so you can see them once I upload everything.

Will the departing players affect payroll, etc., prior to/when we go live?

haggis007 · 07-27-2004, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt from TN

I went with 2 players per team (totally random)... at the season's halfway point, each team will lose 2 more... Most are gone until the 1946 season, although some just for 2 or 3 years... It's all based on the %'s that LGO posted in the TWB/WWII thread.

I've added them all to the "general news" output page so you can see them once I upload everything.

This may have already been covered (I tried to search the threads, but was unsucessful), but will players leaving for the war affect financials/payroll? Will that have any effect when we go live?

metsgeek · 07-27-2004, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt from TN

1942 Offseason News

By the time Opening Day arrived, a total of 36 major leaguers had either enlisted or been drafted into the military. The most notable of these were Yankees centerfielder Jimmy Ditty, who enlisted within weeks of the Pearl Harbor bombings, and Reds centerfielder Flint Rutty, who hit .327 with 86 RBI in an all-star 1941 season.

I'm proud of you, Grandpa

metsgeek · 07-27-2004, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rogmax11

Simone, though indeed lovely, is a bit prissy about slapstick/satire/violence, and I have probably conceded a bit too much to her tastes in my viewing habits. Thanks for the wake-up call.

You're not the only one with a "Simone" who controls their video rentals.

I've found a slight way around it though. Rent foreign films. For some reason that adds a bit of class

My first recommendation would be the 2002 Brazilian movie City of God. Truly brilliant....with tons of needless violence

jdw · 07-27-2004, 07:14 PM

Matt wrote:

> The most notable of these were Yankees
> centerfielder Jimmy Ditty, who enlisted
> within weeks of the Pearl Harbor bombings,

Five World Series rings. Six time All Star. 1938 MVP and Gold Glove. The Schnozz has been one of the key players on the Yankees Dynasty.

John, noting that he is willing to put over one of the Ditty's... :P

jdw · 07-27-2004, 07:20 PM

metsgeek wrote:

> I've found a slight way around it though. Rent
> foreign films. For some reason that adds a bit of class
>
> My first recommendation would be the 2002 Brazilian
> movie City of God. Truly brilliant....with tons
> of needless violence

My first recommendation would be Lucia Y El Sexo (a/k/a/ Sex and Lucia) from Espana for tons of needless... well...

Actually it is quite good. If one liked Y Tu Mama Tambien, one probably would like this as well. Make sure and get the unrated version, however.

John, okay... so I admit... we're getting off topic here which probably isn't a good thing and it's as much my Lebowski fault as anyone...

Matt from TN · 07-28-2004, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haggis007

Will the departing players affect payroll, etc., prior to/when we go live?

I put them on the DL and then drop them to MLC's, so payroll does drop accordingly. Once they all come back, I'll generate cpu contracts and see what happens.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdw

Five World Series rings. Six time All Star. 1938 MVP and Gold Glove. The Schnozz has been one of the key players on the Yankees Dynasty.

...and this makes room for Hung to get back in the lineup.

Kaline · 07-29-2004, 12:25 AM

Kyle Stevens loss's 6 consecutive appearances (5 starts) in September for the Giants.

Take him out and the Giants win it in unspectacular fashion.

jdw · 07-29-2004, 01:14 PM

Matt wrote:

> ...and this makes room for Hung to get
> back in the lineup.

For a year or two perhaps. Ping certainly looks of the age that would get drafted.

John

spiffamous · 07-30-2004, 07:12 AM

Oh no! No new updates this morning... What am I going to do with myself? I'm bored.

Matt from TN · 07-30-2004, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by spiffamous

Oh no! No new updates this morning... What am I going to do with myself? I'm bored.

Expect an update sometime Saturday afternoon... It may be small, but it'll be something... We'll be back up & rolling on Monday... Thanks for your patience.

Luis_Rivera · 07-30-2004, 11:15 AM

Amazing... this is an awesome thread... I'm relatively new here so I just ran across it for the first time. I'll definitely be periodically reading the old stuff to try and get up to speed on this... Great job Matt.

jdw · 07-30-2004, 12:23 PM

Luis_Rivera wrote:

> Amazing... this is an awesome thread... I'm relatively
> new here so I just ran across it for the first time.
> I'll definitely be periodically reading the old stuff
> to try and get up to speed on this...

If you're interested in additional TWB infor, there are the HOF Threads:

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=70374

That's the latest one, with links in the first post to the prior "results" which are the threads for the prior years. Some good stuff in there. Make sure to start with the first year (1936) that than reading the thread I actually linked to first.

The Allen vs. Cohan debates in the first few years helped set the tone for good friendly discussion and debate. Just don't seat Whishey and Haymaker at the same table at the annual HOF dinner or the fists will be flying!

> Great job Matt.

No doubt.

John

"The next thing [Tyke Walls] did was punch [Harry] Cohan right in the nose during a road trip to St. Louis. So much for that "Haymaker" nickname, since it was Tyke who threw the Haymaker and Cohan who took the ten count."
-From the Unathorized Autobiography of Whiskey Allen

scprideandms · 07-30-2004, 01:37 PM

anybody know what page I "killed" Whiskey off on?

jdw · 07-30-2004, 05:12 PM

scprideandms wrote:

> anybody know what page I "killed" Whiskey off on?

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...&page=78&pp=15

Post #1161.

John

Matt from TN · 07-31-2004, 02:16 PM

Ancestors Added in 1942:

Don Lock, C, Detroit Tigers

Lock is a talented hitter who wowed all scouts throughout his high school career. He hits for high average and has a good deal of power too. His defense is only average, which concerned some teams. He now belongs to Detroit and will begin his career in AA. The Tigers are also very high on young catcher Bud Moore, who has become the everyday catcher in the big leagues at age 24, but he could be moved to third base or Lock could be moved to rightfield so both of these talents can fit into the Tigers' lineup when that time comes.

Morris "Rusky" Lutske, SS, Boston Red Sox

19-year-old Lutske is a great hitting talent. He does not hit many homeruns, but he makes up for it with plenty of doubles. He has a decent eye at the plate and could become a top-of-the-order hitter. He impressed team coaches enough this spring to earn himself a spot on the opening day roster as a backup infielder. Both middle infield positions are held tightly by veterans Ricardo Bowden and Pokey Dorsey. Second base is also the future territory of 21-year-old Maurice Goza. Morris should have plenty of time to learn from these and other vets while in Boston.

Phillip "The Blade" Gillette, RF, Cleveland Indians

Gillette is a solid hitter with an exceptional eye at the plate. He has moderate power and defense, but he has a strong arm. The Indians need some offensive help in their outfield, so they hope this kid will develop. He begins the season at Single-A.

07-27-2004, 07:14 PM	#1829
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,161	Matt wrote: > The most notable of these were Yankees > centerfielder Jimmy Ditty, who enlisted > within weeks of the Pearl Harbor bombings, Five World Series rings. Six time All Star. 1938 MVP and Gold Glove. The Schnozz has been one of the key players on the Yankees Dynasty. John, noting that he is willing to put over one of the Ditty's... :P Last edited by jdw; 07-27-2004 at 07:20 PM.

07-30-2004, 01:37 PM	#1838
scprideandms All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: N KY, 25 miles from Cincy Posts: 1,314	anybody know what page I "killed" Whiskey off on? __________________ Change your playground + change your playfriends + change your playtoys + change your playtime = Change your life. If you keep on doing what you've always done you'll keep on gitting what you've always gotten.

07-27-2004, 12:52 PM	#1822
rogmax11 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,320	Hmmm, I know I have Lebowski in my collection; I remember watching it with the lovely Simone a year or so ago. As I recall. I liked it, she thought it was "silly", and so back on the shelf it went. I'll have to pull it for review, if for no other reason than to refresh my obvious lack of cultural reference. Simone, though indeed lovely, is a bit prissy about slapstick/satire/violence, and I have probably conceded a bit too much to her tastes in my viewing habits. Thanks for the wake-up call.

07-27-2004, 03:46 PM	#1824
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	Retiring Ancestors: Bourbon Allen, SP Boston Braves 1918-40 This oldest son of Hall of Famer Whiskey Allen had quite an accomplished baseball career. He retired as the all-time leader in wins, and he became the second pitcher in history to record over 500 complete games. He was the 1928 POY, and he won one World Series with the Braves. He retired with a 390-322 record (Most Wins and Most Losses All-Time), a 3.58 ERA, 1469 walks, 2128 K's (9th All-Time), 525 complete games (2nd All-Time), 52 shutouts (9th All-Time) and a 1.25 WHIP. Sam Kass, CF Pittsburgh Pirates 1920-34 Washington Senators 1934-41 Sam was the 1931 NL BOY with the Pirates, and he went on to win 2 World Series with the Senators, including one in his final season where he was named co-MVP. He retired with a .293 average, 3062 hits (15th All-Time), 540 doubles (9th All-Time), 297 homeruns (5th All-Time), 1847 RBI (Most All-Time), 1653 runs scored (9th All-Time), 816 walks and 184 steals. Harry Finley, C New York Yankees 1923-41 Finley was brought up by the Yankees primarily for his defense, but the team quickly found out they got a better player than they ever imagined. Finley set the standard for catchers with an impressive 10 Gold Gloves. He turned out to be an exceptional base-stealer, recording 30+ steals and finishing in the top 6 in the AL in all of his 13 full-time major league seasons. He won 5 World Series and retired with a .288 average, 1982 hits, 373 doubles, 87 homeruns, 910 RBI, 1139 runs scored, 508 walks and 632 steals (9th All-Time).

07-27-2004, 07:20 PM	#1830
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,161	metsgeek wrote: > I've found a slight way around it though. Rent > foreign films. For some reason that adds a bit of class > > My first recommendation would be the 2002 Brazilian > movie City of God. Truly brilliant....with tons > of needless violence My first recommendation would be Lucia Y El Sexo (a/k/a/ Sex and Lucia) from Espana for tons of needless... well... Actually it is quite good. If one liked Y Tu Mama Tambien, one probably would like this as well. Make sure and get the unrated version, however. John, okay... so I admit... we're getting off topic here which probably isn't a good thing and it's as much my Lebowski fault as anyone...

07-29-2004, 12:25 AM	#1832
Kaline Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 321	Kyle Stevens loss's 6 consecutive appearances (5 starts) in September for the Giants. Take him out and the Giants win it in unspectacular fashion.

07-29-2004, 01:14 PM	#1833
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,161	Matt wrote: > ...and this makes room for Hung to get > back in the lineup. For a year or two perhaps. Ping certainly looks of the age that would get drafted. John

07-30-2004, 07:12 AM	#1834
spiffamous Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 135	Oh no! No new updates this morning... What am I going to do with myself? I'm bored.

07-30-2004, 11:15 AM	#1836
Luis_Rivera Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,177	Amazing... this is an awesome thread... I'm relatively new here so I just ran across it for the first time. I'll definitely be periodically reading the old stuff to try and get up to speed on this... Great job Matt.

07-30-2004, 12:23 PM	#1837
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,161	Luis_Rivera wrote: > Amazing... this is an awesome thread... I'm relatively > new here so I just ran across it for the first time. > I'll definitely be periodically reading the old stuff > to try and get up to speed on this... If you're interested in additional TWB infor, there are the HOF Threads: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=70374 That's the latest one, with links in the first post to the prior "results" which are the threads for the prior years. Some good stuff in there. Make sure to start with the first year (1936) that than reading the thread I actually linked to first. The Allen vs. Cohan debates in the first few years helped set the tone for good friendly discussion and debate. Just don't seat Whishey and Haymaker at the same table at the annual HOF dinner or the fists will be flying! > Great job Matt. No doubt. John "The next thing [Tyke Walls] did was punch [Harry] Cohan right in the nose during a road trip to St. Louis. So much for that "Haymaker" nickname, since it was Tyke who threw the Haymaker and Cohan who took the ten count." -From the Unathorized Autobiography of Whiskey Allen

07-30-2004, 05:12 PM	#1839
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,161	scprideandms wrote: > anybody know what page I "killed" Whiskey off on? http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...&page=78&pp=15 Post #1161. John

07-31-2004, 02:16 PM	#1840
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	Ancestors Added in 1942: Don Lock, C, Detroit Tigers Lock is a talented hitter who wowed all scouts throughout his high school career. He hits for high average and has a good deal of power too. His defense is only average, which concerned some teams. He now belongs to Detroit and will begin his career in AA. The Tigers are also very high on young catcher Bud Moore, who has become the everyday catcher in the big leagues at age 24, but he could be moved to third base or Lock could be moved to rightfield so both of these talents can fit into the Tigers' lineup when that time comes. Morris "Rusky" Lutske, SS, Boston Red Sox 19-year-old Lutske is a great hitting talent. He does not hit many homeruns, but he makes up for it with plenty of doubles. He has a decent eye at the plate and could become a top-of-the-order hitter. He impressed team coaches enough this spring to earn himself a spot on the opening day roster as a backup infielder. Both middle infield positions are held tightly by veterans Ricardo Bowden and Pokey Dorsey. Second base is also the future territory of 21-year-old Maurice Goza. Morris should have plenty of time to learn from these and other vets while in Boston. Phillip "The Blade" Gillette, RF, Cleveland Indians Gillette is a solid hitter with an exceptional eye at the plate. He has moderate power and defense, but he has a strong arm. The Indians need some offensive help in their outfield, so they hope this kid will develop. He begins the season at Single-A.