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Braves70 · 07-25-2013, 10:55 PM

These guys had very short careers

Gene Ratliff - OF - Houston Astros 1965

Merritt Ranew - C - Houston Colts 1962

Sonny Ruberto - C - Cincinnati Reds 1972

Dave Gerard - P - Chicago Cubs 1962

Al Raffo - P - Philadelphia Phillies 1969

rrb77 · 07-26-2013, 11:37 AM

A very young Mariano - 1993

Ctrane · 07-26-2013, 01:17 PM

Gus Getz - 1909 ca-1916

tnfoto · 07-26-2013, 07:17 PM

Vic Black and Steve Susdorf.

Ctrane · 07-26-2013, 07:41 PM

Dutch Hubert Leonard - 1913

tnfoto · 07-26-2013, 09:17 PM

Facepack upgrade, pictured as the rugby captain for Santa Clara University in 1910.

Dto7 · 07-26-2013, 09:30 PM

Frank Gleich 1920 New York Yankees

lebby20 · 07-26-2013, 10:41 PM

Both players were photographed in the early 70s. Not sure if either made it to the majors. The pictures were taken during spring training.

redsfan1940 · 07-26-2013, 10:47 PM

Not sure who that Yankee is, but the photo is reversed. Look at the "O" in New York on his chest. It's before the Y instead of after. So the mystery man is a left-hander.

Braves70 · 07-27-2013, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by redsfan1940

Not sure who that Yankee is, but the photo is reversed. Look at the "O" in New York on his chest. It's before the Y instead of after. So the mystery man is a left-hander.

Good catch. It appears to be lefthander Gary Jones who pitched for the Yankees in 1970-71. I reversed the photo and found 2 matches from the Topps Vault offerings.

Braves70 · 07-27-2013, 12:33 AM

While contemplating the Mystery Mets player, I saw a few Mets from 1972 that were not on cards with the Mets.

Lute Barnes played 2B-SS for the Mets in 1972-73

Bob Rauch was a relief pitcher in 1972, his only year in the major leagues

Tommy Moore pitched for the Mets in 1972-73

Joe Nolan was a catcher with the Mets in 1972. He went on to a long career with the Braves, Reds, and Orioles.

Brent Strom pitched for the Mets in 1972. He was the Mets #1 pick out of USC in the 1970 draft. He was traded after 1972 to Cleveland and then San Diego. He was the 2nd pitcher ever to have "Tommy John" surgery. Strom's surgery did not work for him. People today joke that successful surgery is "Tommy John surgery" while unsuccessful surgery is "Brent Strom surgery".

Ceej · 07-27-2013, 12:44 AM

The Mystery Met is clearly wearing #48. Joe Nolan is wearing #35 in the pic above, but according to Baseball-Reference he also wore #48. Nino Espinosa wore #48 in 1974 and then Randy Tate in 1975, but could this be Nolan in spring training '73? Nolan didn't make any more appearances for the Mets after those four games in '72 but he was still in the Mets organization through April '75.

lebby20 · 07-27-2013, 01:22 AM

The material of the uniform appears to still be the cotton style before the league was taken over by the double knit poly starting with the pirates in 71. I don't think the Mets swithed fabric until the 1972 season. So the pic should be spring training 72 or before. I don't think it is Nolan, he batted left handed. Barnes is a possibility but not sure still. Thanks to everyone who is working on it for me.

Braves70 · 07-27-2013, 01:54 AM

This could be the mystery Met. I checked my 1971 Sporting News "Dope Book" and it has the 1971 40 man rosters for each team. The 1971 Mets have listed as #48 - outfielder George Kazmarek. He never played in the major leagues but was the Mets #1 pick in the 1968 draft. You can find his statistics in the minor league section at Baseball Reference.com. Sorry that I do not have a photo to compare.

Braves70 · 07-27-2013, 02:18 AM

Some of these guys had long major league careers but stopped only briefly with this team or it was one of the last teams for which they played.

Ray Sadecki - P with the 1975 Braves

Billy Conners - P with the 1967-68 Mets

Hector Torres - INF with the 1977 Blue Jays

Dick Selma - P with the 1969 Cubs

Max Alvis - 3B with the 1970 Brewers

KenRaffensberger16 · 07-27-2013, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Braves70

Some of these guys had long major league careers but stopped only briefly with this team or it was one of the last teams for which they played.

Ray Sadecki - P with the 1975 Braves

Billy Conners - P with the 1967-68 Mets

Hector Torres - INF with the 1977 Blue Jays

Dick Selma - P with the 1969 Cubs

Max Alvis - 3B with the 1970 Brewers

I can hardly recognize the relatively svelte, Billy Connors pictured above. He really blimped out in later years when he was the NY Yankees pitching coach.

tnfoto · 07-27-2013, 11:35 AM

Rob Wooten.

Braves70 · 07-27-2013, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tnfoto

Rob Wooten.

An additional Rob Wooten

lebby20 · 07-27-2013, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lebby20

Both players were photographed in the early 70s. Not sure if either made it to the majors. The pictures were taken during spring training.

Yankee is Gary Jones and the Met is George Kazmarek
Thanks to all that helped!

brobby05 · 07-27-2013, 03:14 PM

Thanks everyone for such promptness and nice pics of the 71 White Sox. Now I'm working on the 1971 Padres that look like this:

Here is the list for color pics (non baseball cards...I have those:

Nate Colbert
Dave Campbell
Ed Spiezio
Ollie Brown
Leron Lee
Tommy Dean
Al Severinsen
Dick Kelley
Bob Barton
Steve Arlin
Johnny Jeter
Ivan Murrell
Mike Caldwell
Garry Jestadt

Thanks,

BRobby05

07-25-2013, 10:55 PM	#18101
Braves70 All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,086	A few shortimers These guys had very short careers Gene Ratliff - OF - Houston Astros 1965 Merritt Ranew - C - Houston Colts 1962 Sonny Ruberto - C - Cincinnati Reds 1972 Dave Gerard - P - Chicago Cubs 1962 Al Raffo - P - Philadelphia Phillies 1969 Attached Images

07-26-2013, 11:37 AM	#18102
rrb77 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,287	Mariano Rivera A very young Mariano - 1993 Last edited by rrb77; 09-15-2015 at 02:07 PM.

07-26-2013, 01:17 PM	#18103
Ctrane Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Newington, CT Posts: 2,299	Gus Getz - 1909 ca-1916 Attached Images

07-26-2013, 07:17 PM	#18104
tnfoto Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Port Angeles, WA Posts: 12,714	Yesterday's Debuts Vic Black and Steve Susdorf. Attached Images __________________ TNFOTO: baseball careers ended "Through No Fault Of Their Own" Facepack updated 4/5/2022 Info & download links here. Missing player/manager/umpire list or Pegasus UIN list Download Facepack & more at tnfoto's Baseball Photos Homepage Photo threads: 2025 Debuts Majors Managers Coaches Umpires Minors Negro League Image Requests General Image Discussion

07-26-2013, 07:41 PM	#18105
Ctrane Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Newington, CT Posts: 2,299	Dutch Hubert Leonard - 1913 Attached Images

07-26-2013, 09:17 PM	#18106
tnfoto Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Port Angeles, WA Posts: 12,714	Hardin Barry 1912 Facepack upgrade, pictured as the rugby captain for Santa Clara University in 1910. Attached Images __________________ TNFOTO: baseball careers ended "Through No Fault Of Their Own" Facepack updated 4/5/2022 Info & download links here. Missing player/manager/umpire list or Pegasus UIN list Download Facepack & more at tnfoto's Baseball Photos Homepage Photo threads: 2025 Debuts Majors Managers Coaches Umpires Minors Negro League Image Requests General Image Discussion

07-26-2013, 09:30 PM	#18107
Dto7 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 884	Frank Gleich 1919 Frank Gleich 1920 New York Yankees Attached Images

07-26-2013, 10:41 PM	#18108
lebby20 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 158	Help needed idenifying these two. Both players were photographed in the early 70s. Not sure if either made it to the majors. The pictures were taken during spring training. Attached Images

07-26-2013, 10:47 PM	#18109
redsfan1940 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 24	Yankee and Met Photos Not sure who that Yankee is, but the photo is reversed. Look at the "O" in New York on his chest. It's before the Y instead of after. So the mystery man is a left-hander.

07-27-2013, 12:33 AM	#18111
Braves70 All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,086	Mets 1972 While contemplating the Mystery Mets player, I saw a few Mets from 1972 that were not on cards with the Mets. Lute Barnes played 2B-SS for the Mets in 1972-73 Bob Rauch was a relief pitcher in 1972, his only year in the major leagues Tommy Moore pitched for the Mets in 1972-73 Joe Nolan was a catcher with the Mets in 1972. He went on to a long career with the Braves, Reds, and Orioles. Brent Strom pitched for the Mets in 1972. He was the Mets #1 pick out of USC in the 1970 draft. He was traded after 1972 to Cleveland and then San Diego. He was the 2nd pitcher ever to have "Tommy John" surgery. Strom's surgery did not work for him. People today joke that successful surgery is "Tommy John surgery" while unsuccessful surgery is "Brent Strom surgery". Attached Images

07-27-2013, 12:44 AM	#18112
Ceej Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 190	The Mystery Met is clearly wearing #48. Joe Nolan is wearing #35 in the pic above, but according to Baseball-Reference he also wore #48. Nino Espinosa wore #48 in 1974 and then Randy Tate in 1975, but could this be Nolan in spring training '73? Nolan didn't make any more appearances for the Mets after those four games in '72 but he was still in the Mets organization through April '75.

07-27-2013, 01:22 AM	#18113
lebby20 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 158	The material of the uniform appears to still be the cotton style before the league was taken over by the double knit poly starting with the pirates in 71. I don't think the Mets swithed fabric until the 1972 season. So the pic should be spring training 72 or before. I don't think it is Nolan, he batted left handed. Barnes is a possibility but not sure still. Thanks to everyone who is working on it for me.

07-27-2013, 01:54 AM	#18114
Braves70 All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,086	Possible answer to mystery Met This could be the mystery Met. I checked my 1971 Sporting News "Dope Book" and it has the 1971 40 man rosters for each team. The 1971 Mets have listed as #48 - outfielder George Kazmarek. He never played in the major leagues but was the Mets #1 pick in the 1968 draft. You can find his statistics in the minor league section at Baseball Reference.com. Sorry that I do not have a photo to compare. Attached Images

07-27-2013, 02:18 AM	#18115
Braves70 All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,086	A few more short time employees Some of these guys had long major league careers but stopped only briefly with this team or it was one of the last teams for which they played. Ray Sadecki - P with the 1975 Braves Billy Conners - P with the 1967-68 Mets Hector Torres - INF with the 1977 Blue Jays Dick Selma - P with the 1969 Cubs Max Alvis - 3B with the 1970 Brewers Attached Images

07-27-2013, 11:35 AM	#18117
tnfoto Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Port Angeles, WA Posts: 12,714	Yesterday's Debut Rob Wooten. Attached Images __________________ TNFOTO: baseball careers ended "Through No Fault Of Their Own" Facepack updated 4/5/2022 Info & download links here. Missing player/manager/umpire list or Pegasus UIN list Download Facepack & more at tnfoto's Baseball Photos Homepage Photo threads: 2025 Debuts Majors Managers Coaches Umpires Minors Negro League Image Requests General Image Discussion

07-27-2013, 03:14 PM	#18120
brobby05 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 242	1971 San Diego Padres Thanks everyone for such promptness and nice pics of the 71 White Sox. Now I'm working on the 1971 Padres that look like this: Here is the list for color pics (non baseball cards...I have those: Nate Colbert Dave Campbell Ed Spiezio Ollie Brown Leron Lee Tommy Dean Al Severinsen Dick Kelley Bob Barton Steve Arlin Johnny Jeter Ivan Murrell Mike Caldwell Garry Jestadt Thanks, BRobby05 Attached Images