2025 F1 Season

[Westheim]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

EDIT: That extension, does it double as an engine air intake?

Yes.

Btw that car has a Google Street View camera on top because it looks like Brad Pitt's car from that highly annoying F1 movie.

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

EDIT 2: Wow, that halo device has not been around for very long. Early development was spurred by "In 2009, 2 major accidents happened in top level FIA open wheel series, the fatal accident of Henry Surtees at the Brands Hatch round of the 2009 Formula 2 season and the accident Felipe Massa sustained during qualifying at the 2009 Hungarian Grand Prix. The accidents led to calls for additional cockpit protection". It has been in general use only since around 2017.

First, I'm not gonna link to videos of fatal accidents; I have watched all the instances I am mentioning now, but some might not want to do so. If you do want to see them, Youtube is your oyster.

Henry Surtees (son of John Surtees, the only man in history to win world championships on two and on four wheels) took a bouncing wheel to the head that was torn off from another car that had crashed ahead of him.

Felipe Massa was a championship contender in the late 2000s (he was infamously world champion for 30 seconds at Interlagos in 2008, but "is that Glock???" ... ...) but was never the same after taking a spring that had fallen off another car to the head at speed. The spring broke his helmet and caused extensive skull fractures. He recovered after emergency surgery and drove in F1 for another six or seven years, but the edge was gone.

There are two more fatal accidents that sparked development into the systems that F1 and Indycar use these days (although Indycar uses a different system with an actual windscreen).

The first was the fatal accident of Jules Bianchi at the 2014 Japanese GP. Run in very wet conditions, the race saw Bianchi go off at a corner where the lap before Adrian Sutil had already crashed his car. A heavy tractor was out in the gravel trap at the edge of the track to recover the Sutil car when Bianchi went out of control and crashed at speed into the raised rear end of the tractor in a way that the front of his car went underneath and he struck the underside of the tractor with his head. Mortally wounded, he remained comatose for nine months before passing away. Noteworthy, the accident was not caught live on the world feed and was never shown on replay. The only footage that exists of the Bianchi car striking the tractor is from amateur videos taken of fans seated in the grandstands, filming over the top of the pit buildings.

The other was in Indycar, where Justin Wilson was killed in a race at Pocono. Another car crashed ahead of him, and he also took a loose spring off the head with such force that the live footage shows the spring flying at least 50 feet high into the air afterwards. That was in 2015.

I don't know exactly why Indycar went with a different system, but undoubtedly their screen presents better protection against small-ish debris flying around after an accident.

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Of course, all those kids don't know what they're doing. Martin Brundle took a whole Benetton-Ford off the head at Interlagos in 1994 and walked away from it!

[Westheim]

Lando's pole lap today, and also some pretty Styrian countryside.

Compare though with the old Österreichring incarnation of the track, that was even prettier. Sadly, the onboard tech in 1987, the last time F1 ran on the old layout, was not quite up to snuff.

[low]

My highlight of the day is Lawson outqualifying Max.

Pretty sure we are now witnessing the collapse of Red Bull and it is glorious. Newey gone. Max about to be gone. I kind of feel bad for Hadjar because he is too good to be at the Jr team and the RB he will get promoted to is garbage. Just ask Checo, Lawson, and Yuki. (I guess Max really is that good.) Who knows, maybe Hadjar can be the next Max type of guy who Red Bull can build their next car around. In the meantime, I will enjoy every second of their current downfall.

[Westheim]

Bad mistake by Little Kimi, but I appreciate and celebrate his noble sacrifice to kill the evil blue car before it can do any damage!

[Westheim]

Lando wins!!

But, holy furball, he didn't make it easily watchable. 70 laps of terror from behind.

There might be a few penalties coming given how Alonso and Bortoleto decided the race on the final lap by not getting out of the way anymore.

Also, Franco, I saw your move on the top straight, shoving the second orange car into the grass, but unless you make him crash I'm not putting the cheque in the mail!

[low]

Gross.

[Westheim]

Originally Posted by low

Gross.

Right? I'm about to reverse-eat my lunch.

[Amazin69]

Originally Posted by Westheim

Right? I'm about to reverse-eat my lunch.

¿Que?

[Westheim]

Originally Posted by Amazin69

¿Que?

We expressed our shared dismay at Mr. Verstappen pulling a pole position out of his tush in qualifying for the British GP, and I topped the previous commenter by indicating that I might be sick because of it in the near future.

Only hope for tomorrow is that the blue car and Ossie have a little "inchident" at the start and Lando can wiggle through and win that way...

[low]

Originally Posted by Westheim

Only hope for tomorrow is that the blue car and Lando have a little "inchident" at the start and Oscar can wiggle through and win that way...

Fixed it.

[Westheim]

Originally Posted by low

Fixed it.

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[low]

BS safety car. 15 seconds gone.

I get it, but grrr!!!!

[Westheim]

Schtroll is in fourth!

Meanwhile, Leclerc has water in his helmet. Ferrari pitwall: "Must be the water.", probably.

[Westheim]

I was just mumbling to myself how you can't see **** with the spray in the air, and then Hadjar rammed into the rear of an invisible car (Kimi, as it turns out) in the old turn 1 and wrecked hard into the unprotected sidewall there.

[low]

Any other race that's not a penalty. You know it, I know it, and even yellow dog knows it.

[Westheim]

Originally Posted by low

Any other race that's not a penalty. You know it, I know it, and even yellow dog knows it.

I want to see it again, but he hit the brakes *very* hard.

The thing is also that the "SC ending" came out very late in the lap, so he had no gap to the safety car at that point, and they were already down Hangar straight.

I don't know, that one was a mess from top to bottom.

Also, have faith in Lando bottling that penalty kick on an open goal.

[Jason Moyer]

Hopefully there aren't any more shenanigans and Lando can just cruise to the end a few seconds back. Would be anticlimactic but a huge win for him.

[Griever20]

If Hülkenberg actually manages to end this pesky streak of career raced without a podium, they'll burn down the house with their victory celebration

[Westheim]

Originally Posted by Jason Moyer

Hopefully there aren't any more shenanigans and Lando can just cruise to the end a few seconds back. Would be anticlimactic but a huge win for him.

Yes please

Originally Posted by Griever20

If Hülkenberg actually manages to end this pesky streak of career raced without a podium, they'll burn down the house with their victory celebration

Yes please

[Jason Moyer]

After that mistake I don't think Lewis has enough time to catch Nico, wow.