Historical Minors - Page 9

splat58 · 09-04-2021, 11:10 AM

Is Frank Robinson still playing in your league?

David Watts · 09-04-2021, 11:16 AM

Oh man, the aforementioned Bill McNulty is turning out to be quite the pleasant surprise for the Detroit Tigers. McNulty has made 39 starts for the Tigers hitting .288,.369, 500 for the Tigers. He has 8 home runs and has driven in 26 runs. The need him too. Norm Cash has joined Roberto Clemente on the pinch hitter tour of the Americas. He has yet to start a game all season and has only played 7 innings in the field. Meanwhile, Leon Roberts is hitting only .218,.289,.324 and is carrying a -0.1 WAR.

Is there something wrong with the retired feature when using historical minors. I just realized Gates Brown retired following the 73 season, but if you pull up the recently retired list, he is no where to be found. You have to use the massive all retired list to find him.

David Watts · 09-04-2021, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by splat58

Is Frank Robinson still playing in your league?

Yes he is. He is hitting cleanup for the Dodgers. Up until a few days ago, he was playing RF, but due to Steve Garvey's broken Molar undisclosed injury, Robinson is now playing 1B. Robinson hit .278, .370, .472 in 74, smashing 28 home runs, while driving in 95. He hasn't been as productive so far in 74. Over 62 starts he is hitting .248, .355, .350 with 5 home runs and 20 RBI. He is sitting at 559 career home runs. Robinson needs 90 hits to reach 3000. Figure this is his year to try and get there, as I'm guessing he goes on the pinch hit tour starting next year.

thehef · 09-04-2021, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by David Watts

Is there something wrong with the retired feature when using historical minors. I just realized Gates Brown retired following the 73 season, but if you pull up the recently retired list, he is no where to be found. You have to use the massive all retired list to find him.

Not exactly sure what you are experiencing & what happened with him in your game. However, I can say that there is not force-retire item in the historical txns file. I'm guessing if he retired after the '73 seasons it's because his ratings, combined with TCR/development, weren't great and OOTP AI decided to semi-randomly retire him.

Edster007 · 09-04-2021, 06:23 PM

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Yup, in this replay, the Yankees pretty much refuse to give Gene Michael a shot. If he does get on the big league roster, he doesn't stay long. Right now they are starting world beater Rich McKinney at SS. Their backup is Eddie Leon. Michael is in the minors, AAA. They are playing Otto Velez at 2B and Charlie Spikes at 3B. Spikes is a dreadful red 1 at 3B and has made 17 errors .901 over 63 games so in 74. McKinney has 17 errors at SS, .953. Velez has only 5 errors, .985.

As an NYY fan makes me long for Celerino Sanchez. That is an awful infield.

splat58 · 09-04-2021, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by David Watts

Yup, in this replay, the Yankees pretty much refuse to give Gene Michael a shot. If he does get on the big league roster, he doesn't stay long. Right now they are starting world beater Rich McKinney at SS. Their backup is Eddie Leon. Michael is in the minors, AAA. They are playing Otto Velez at 2B and Charlie Spikes at 3B. Spikes is a dreadful red 1 at 3B and has made 17 errors .901 over 63 games so in 74. McKinney has 17 errors at SS, .953. Velez has only 5 errors, .985.

It's not easy to replace Horace Clarke.

David Watts · 09-04-2021, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by thehef

Not exactly sure what you are experiencing & what happened with him in your game. However, I can say that there is not force-retire item in the historical txns file. I'm guessing if he retired after the '73 seasons it's because his ratings, combined with TCR/development, weren't great and OOTP AI decided to semi-randomly retire him.

Gates struggled big time in both 72 and 73, hitting below .200 both years. In 72 he was a pinch hitter just as in real life. In 73 he played in 69 games, starting 36 of them. It was strange, because he would play LF in a good share of those starts. The Tigers manager kept Horton as the DH. In August of 73, the Tigers released him. He retired in October. Since Gates was a pinch hitter in real life, I'm guessing the make bad settings aren't kind to him

David Watts · 09-04-2021, 08:57 PM

Wow, OOTP Land Frank Tanana skipped the minors altogether, joining the Angels rotation at the age of 18. He struggled in 72 going 4-18, 4.10. He had tough luck season in 73 going 9-14, but had a 3.24 ERA with 222 strikeouts. 4.5 WAR. So far in 74 he is 4-12 with and dreadful 6.62 ERA. -0.3 WAR. His 21st birthday is approaching and he already has 44 career losses. That being said, I still wish my Tigers would have drafted him instead of the long haired freaky person soon to be playing SS.

David Watts · 09-05-2021, 08:52 AM

Tuesday, June 25, 1974, Hank Aaron hits his 3rd home run of the season and is now just 1 away from 700.

David Watts · 09-05-2021, 09:23 AM

June 26, 1974 Lee May hits 3 home runs for the Astros in a 9-0 drubbing of the 1st place Cincinnati Reds. May went 3-5 with 5 rbi. May has been one of the NL's best in terms of driving in runs over the last 3 season. May drove in 104 in 72, a league best 122 in 73 and is once again leading the NL in 74 with 57. May led the NL with 34 home runs in 72, hit 24 in 73 and currently has 19, which has him tied with Mike Schmidt for the league lead.

David Watts · 09-07-2021, 10:25 AM

July 13th, 1974 Hank Aaron hit #700 in the 1st inning off of Reggie Cleveland. He's slowly working his way towards the record, just not sure he will get there in 74.

David Watts · 09-08-2021, 09:32 AM

Harmon Killebrew now has 18 home runs giving him 590 for his career. Going to be interesting to see if he can reach 600. Killebrew's final year in real life was 1975. He batted 369 times that season for the Royals hitting 14 home runs. I'll be interested to see what the OOTP recalc gods do to him next season.

Edster007 · 09-09-2021, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by David Watts

July 13th, 1974 Hank Aaron hit #700 in the 1st inning off of Reggie Cleveland. He's slowly working his way towards the record, just not sure he will get there in 74.

I guess the AI doesn’t have a degree in Marketing. The chase for the HR record sells tickets and merch

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David Watts · 09-10-2021, 09:16 AM

Aaron hit 2 home runs in a game against the Pirates. He now sits at 702.

David Watts · 09-10-2021, 01:48 PM

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I guess the AI doesn’t have a degree in Marketing. The chase for the HR record sells tickets and merch

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So true. Kind of wish Aaron would get dealt to a team in the AL so he could DH and cruise to the home run record. At the same time, stuff like this is what makes a simulation game so darn fascinating.

David Watts · 09-11-2021, 08:20 AM

July 26, 1974 Willie Stargell drill 3 home runs in a game against the Montreal Expos. The Pirates won the game 10-4, Stargell drove in 9 of those 10 runs. Willie is hitting .261 with 18 home runs and 71 RBI for the NL East leading Pirates. Pittsburgh is 61-37, which has them 17 games up. The rest of the NL East is once again under .500.

The NL West is a little bit closer, but not by much. The Reds are 68-33, putting them 10 games ahead of the second place Houston Astros.

The AL East is really close at this time Boston(56-43) holds a 1 1/2 game lead over the Baltimore Orioles(55-45). Cleveland is 4 1/2 games back, 52-48.

Oakland is 2 1/2 games up on the Minnesota Twins in the AL West. Oakland is currently 58-40. Both divisions in the AL have been back and forth affairs so far this season, which is a good things seeing how awful the races in the NL have been.

David Watts · 09-11-2021, 08:55 AM

July 27th. WoW! We have a blockbuster trade and it has me scratching my head big time. The 1st place Oakland A's have acquired 32 year old starting pitcher Wilbur Wood from the Chicago White Sox in exchange for 27 year old Joe Rudi and 19 year old CF Dwayne Murphy. Wood was having a really nice season for the vastly improved White Sox. Wilbur is 14-5, 2.57 over 22 starts. Wilbur joins an A's pitching staff of Vida Blue 11-4, 2.59, Catfish Hunter 13-8, 2.66, Ken Holtzman 10-6, 2.49 and Dick Drago 10-7, 3.88. I do wonder if giving up the Joe Rudi, the teams leading RBI(68) man and number 3 hitter was such a smart move for a team that already had a loaded pitching staff.

The White Sox lead the American League in runs scored and adding Rudi will do little to lessen that lead. Chicago now sports a very dangerous lineup. Carlos May bats 2nd and is hitting .302. Jorge Orta is batting 3rd hitting .327. Dick Allen is the cleanup hitter batting .293 with 23 home runs and 70 RBI. Rudi is slated to bat 5th, .259. 14 home runs 68 RBI followed by Bill Melton .268.15,68. Problem is, the White Sox pitching isn't the greatest and losing a pitcher that may have been on his way to a Cy Young is going to hurt.

We will have to see how this plays out.

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Orcin · 09-12-2021, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by David Watts

July 27th. WoW! We have a blockbuster trade and it has me scratching my head big time. The 1st place Oakland A's have acquired 32 year old starting pitcher Wilbur Wood from the Chicago White Sox in exchange for 27 year old Joe Rudi and 19 year old CF Dwayne Murphy. Wood was having a really nice season for the vastly improved White Sox. Wilbur is 14-5, 2.57 over 22 starts. Wilbur joins an A's pitching staff of Vida Blue 11-4, 2.59, Catfish Hunter 13-8, 2.66, Ken Holtzman 10-6, 2.49 and Dick Drago 10-7, 3.88. I do wonder if giving up the Joe Rudi, the teams leading RBI(68) man and number 3 hitter was such a smart move for a team that already had a loaded pitching staff.

The White Sox lead the American League in runs scored and adding Rudi will do little to lessen that lead. Chicago now sports a very dangerous lineup. Carlos May bats 2nd and is hitting .302. Jorge Orta is batting 3rd hitting .327. Dick Allen is the cleanup hitter batting .293 with 23 home runs and 70 RBI. Rudi is slated to bat 5th, .259. 14 home runs 68 RBI followed by Bill Melton .268.15,68. Problem is, the White Sox pitching isn't the greatest and losing a pitcher that may have been on his way to a Cy Young is going to hurt.

We will have to see how this plays out.

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I bet the A's GM is heavily weighted toward pitchers/defense and the White Sox GM is heavily weighted toward hitters/offense. They can't get enough of what they like.

fuzzy_patters · 09-12-2021, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Orcin

I bet the A's GM is heavily weighted toward pitchers/defense and the White Sox GM is heavily weighted toward hitters/offense. They can't get enough of what they like.

I think GM’s having their own tastes and preferences is one of the most under-talked about, best parts of this game. There isn’t an AI that behaves in certain ways. There are a bunch of AI’s that behaves in different ways. Thank you for pointing this out. It’s an easy thing to forget.

David Watts · 09-12-2021, 03:31 PM

I agree with both of you. Only makes me love this game more.

09-04-2021, 08:57 PM	#168
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 10,008 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Wow, OOTP Land Frank Tanana skipped the minors altogether, joining the Angels rotation at the age of 18. He struggled in 72 going 4-18, 4.10. He had tough luck season in 73 going 9-14, but had a 3.24 ERA with 222 strikeouts. 4.5 WAR. So far in 74 he is 4-12 with and dreadful 6.62 ERA. -0.3 WAR. His 21st birthday is approaching and he already has 44 career losses. That being said, I still wish my Tigers would have drafted him instead of the long haired freaky person soon to be playing SS. Last edited by David Watts; 09-04-2021 at 08:58 PM.

09-10-2021, 09:16 AM	#174
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 10,008 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Aaron hit 2 home runs in a game against the Pirates. He now sits at 702. Last edited by David Watts; 09-10-2021 at 01:48 PM.

09-04-2021, 11:10 AM	#161
splat58 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 74	Is Frank Robinson still playing in your league?

09-04-2021, 11:16 AM	#162
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 10,008 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Oh man, the aforementioned Bill McNulty is turning out to be quite the pleasant surprise for the Detroit Tigers. McNulty has made 39 starts for the Tigers hitting .288,.369, 500 for the Tigers. He has 8 home runs and has driven in 26 runs. The need him too. Norm Cash has joined Roberto Clemente on the pinch hitter tour of the Americas. He has yet to start a game all season and has only played 7 innings in the field. Meanwhile, Leon Roberts is hitting only .218,.289,.324 and is carrying a -0.1 WAR. Is there something wrong with the retired feature when using historical minors. I just realized Gates Brown retired following the 73 season, but if you pull up the recently retired list, he is no where to be found. You have to use the massive all retired list to find him.

09-05-2021, 08:52 AM	#169
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 10,008 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Tuesday, June 25, 1974, Hank Aaron hits his 3rd home run of the season and is now just 1 away from 700.

09-05-2021, 09:23 AM	#170
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 10,008 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	June 26, 1974 Lee May hits 3 home runs for the Astros in a 9-0 drubbing of the 1st place Cincinnati Reds. May went 3-5 with 5 rbi. May has been one of the NL's best in terms of driving in runs over the last 3 season. May drove in 104 in 72, a league best 122 in 73 and is once again leading the NL in 74 with 57. May led the NL with 34 home runs in 72, hit 24 in 73 and currently has 19, which has him tied with Mike Schmidt for the league lead.

09-07-2021, 10:25 AM	#171
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 10,008 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	July 13th, 1974 Hank Aaron hit #700 in the 1st inning off of Reggie Cleveland. He's slowly working his way towards the record, just not sure he will get there in 74.

09-08-2021, 09:32 AM	#172
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 10,008 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Harmon Killebrew now has 18 home runs giving him 590 for his career. Going to be interesting to see if he can reach 600. Killebrew's final year in real life was 1975. He batted 369 times that season for the Royals hitting 14 home runs. I'll be interested to see what the OOTP recalc gods do to him next season.

09-11-2021, 08:20 AM	#176
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 10,008 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	July 26, 1974 Willie Stargell drill 3 home runs in a game against the Montreal Expos. The Pirates won the game 10-4, Stargell drove in 9 of those 10 runs. Willie is hitting .261 with 18 home runs and 71 RBI for the NL East leading Pirates. Pittsburgh is 61-37, which has them 17 games up. The rest of the NL East is once again under .500. The NL West is a little bit closer, but not by much. The Reds are 68-33, putting them 10 games ahead of the second place Houston Astros. The AL East is really close at this time Boston(56-43) holds a 1 1/2 game lead over the Baltimore Orioles(55-45). Cleveland is 4 1/2 games back, 52-48. Oakland is 2 1/2 games up on the Minnesota Twins in the AL West. Oakland is currently 58-40. Both divisions in the AL have been back and forth affairs so far this season, which is a good things seeing how awful the races in the NL have been.

09-11-2021, 08:55 AM	#177
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 10,008 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	July 27th. WoW! We have a blockbuster trade and it has me scratching my head big time. The 1st place Oakland A's have acquired 32 year old starting pitcher Wilbur Wood from the Chicago White Sox in exchange for 27 year old Joe Rudi and 19 year old CF Dwayne Murphy. Wood was having a really nice season for the vastly improved White Sox. Wilbur is 14-5, 2.57 over 22 starts. Wilbur joins an A's pitching staff of Vida Blue 11-4, 2.59, Catfish Hunter 13-8, 2.66, Ken Holtzman 10-6, 2.49 and Dick Drago 10-7, 3.88. I do wonder if giving up the Joe Rudi, the teams leading RBI(68) man and number 3 hitter was such a smart move for a team that already had a loaded pitching staff. The White Sox lead the American League in runs scored and adding Rudi will do little to lessen that lead. Chicago now sports a very dangerous lineup. Carlos May bats 2nd and is hitting .302. Jorge Orta is batting 3rd hitting .327. Dick Allen is the cleanup hitter batting .293 with 23 home runs and 70 RBI. Rudi is slated to bat 5th, .259. 14 home runs 68 RBI followed by Bill Melton .268.15,68. Problem is, the White Sox pitching isn't the greatest and losing a pitcher that may have been on his way to a Cy Young is going to hurt. We will have to see how this plays out. .

09-12-2021, 03:31 PM	#180
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 10,008 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	I agree with both of you. Only makes me love this game more.