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Old 08-15-2020, 01:31 AM   #161
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Runners on 1st and 3rd, groundball hit to 2B who throws home. Runner from 3rd falls down (head-first slide?) half way to home, stands up, then 2B runs across infield to stand next to the now upright runner.


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Old 08-15-2020, 03:22 PM   #162
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Rogers Centre - ball hit deep into LF stands; fielder runs through fence after it, retrieves it, and throws it back in, - long after batter awarded inside the park HR.

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Old 08-15-2020, 04:10 PM   #163
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Fenway Park - ball hit through the middle of the Green Monster and the outfielders follow. Eventually one tried to throw the ball back over the Monster unsuccessfully. The SS had to go through the wall to pick up the relay. Meanwhile the batter at 2nd and another runner at 3rd sit contentedly - unconcerned about the opportunity to circle the bases a number of times while all this is happening.

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Old 08-22-2020, 11:26 AM   #164
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Fenway Park - Ball is hit very foul, basically sideways into the crowd. Runner makes it to second for a double.

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Old 08-26-2020, 04:37 AM   #165
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Kauffman Stadium - ball visually hit foul over 1B dugout into the crowd is recorded as inside the park homerun. RF follows ball into the stands also.

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Old 08-28-2020, 02:04 PM   #166
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Posting just to show it happens in ballparks other than Spring Training--the regular season has begun, this is at the Baker Bowl. Paul Molitor slices a ball clearly foul for a single; RF goes through the stands to throw it back in.

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Old 08-28-2020, 03:32 PM   #167
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Jacobs Field, runner on third, bunt attempt, as soon as Christy Mathewsone fields the bunt (fields, not throws home for the out), the runner vanishes.

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Old 08-29-2020, 12:10 PM   #168
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Hooking fly balls

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I have noticed that after update to 77 that fly balls to right or left field that start off as high fly balls both head to CF then, about half way, hook right or left to the player mentioned in the PbP.
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Old 08-29-2020, 06:12 PM   #169
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Forbes Field, what looks like a standard double down the RF line becomes a looooong wait as ball and RF disappear. 2 score, it is a double, it's just long and slow (the IF eventually also runs through the RF stands to get the relay).

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Old 08-29-2020, 09:09 PM   #170
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Forbes Field, what looks like a standard double down the RF line becomes a looooong wait as ball and RF disappear. 2 score, it is a double, it's just long and slow (the IF eventually also runs through the RF stands to get the relay).

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The ball and runner going through the wall is not an OOTP problem. Forbes is not an OOTP park. It is a park made by a 3rd party. You need to adjust the grid on the fence in the 3D view in the edit ballpark page. However, the rest of your issue is an OOTP problem, i.e. the slow return, the infielder going all the way out to get the ball, etc. I have reported it at least twice.
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Here it is again 2nd baseman chasing ball

The ball is hit to deep right, bounces off the wall and the CF man picks it up and throws it to the infield. It lands before getting to the 2B man and rolls slowly through the infield past home plate with the 2B man slowly chasing it and then the batter is called safe at 3rd.
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No throw or tag

The ball is hit to deep RF and off the wall. PbP says it is fielded of the wall by RF and thrown to 2B man who throws to second and the tag is late and runner is safe. The view shows the RF throwing to 2B man who away form 2B waiting for the throw. He receives the throw and just stands there, he does not throw to the SS covering 2B.
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The ball and runner going through the wall is not an OOTP problem. Forbes is not an OOTP park. It is a park made by a 3rd party. You need to adjust the grid on the fence in the 3D view in the edit ballpark page. However, the rest of your issue is an OOTP problem, i.e. the slow return, the infielder going all the way out to get the ball, etc. I have reported it at least twice.
Maybe. The same thing happens in OOTP stadia: there is no way for me to know (you may have other knowledge) if the bug has to do with the fielders *ignoring* the fence under certain circumstances (an OOTP issue), or there being a mistake in the grid (a stadium problem).

I have checked the OF fence in the 3D editor. I'm no expert there, but it *looks* correct (that is, it goes straight across the RF boundary).
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Maybe. The same thing happens in OOTP stadia: there is no way for me to know (you may have other knowledge) if the bug has to do with the fielders *ignoring* the fence under certain circumstances (an OOTP issue), or there being a mistake in the grid (a stadium problem).

I have checked the OF fence in the 3D editor. I'm no expert there, but it *looks* correct (that is, it goes straight across the RF boundary).
I haven't seen that happen with an OOTP park. I have only seen it happen with 3rd party parks. OOTP does not make any historical parks. I suggest you look again at that fence with grid on and move the part of the grid where the ball/player went through a click or two towards the field and see if that fixes your problem. This same thing has happened to me with some historical parks and I found that I can't always tell if the fence needs to move in a little, so I move it and see if the problem stops. It has always worked for me.
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I haven't seen that happen with an OOTP park. I have only seen it happen with 3rd party parks. OOTP does not make any historical parks. I suggest you look again at that fence with grid on and move the part of the grid where the ball/player went through a click or two towards the field and see if that fixes your problem. This same thing has happened to me with some historical parks and I found that I can't always tell if the fence needs to move in a little, so I move it and see if the problem stops. It has always worked for me.
Cool, done. We'll see.

FWIW, I have seen this same behavior with the "Spring Ballpark," which is an OOTP park. But it's the Spring Ballpark, so perhaps it receives less attention ...
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Cool, done. We'll see.

FWIW, I have seen this same behavior with the "Spring Ballpark," which is an OOTP park. But it's the Spring Ballpark, so perhaps it receives less attention ...
I am unaware of that park. I just looked at my list of parks, which contains all the OOTP & 3rd party ones I have and don't have a Spring Ballpark. I would think that if it was an OOTP park it would be in my models folder. What version of OOTP are you using?
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I am unaware of that park. I just looked at my list of parks, which contains all the OOTP & 3rd party ones I have and don't have a Spring Ballpark. I would think that if it was an OOTP park it would be in my models folder. What version of OOTP are you using?
21, latest build. It was the ballpark used for all Spring Training games. I did nothing to select it, or not.
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21, latest build. It was the ballpark used for all Spring Training games. I did nothing to select it, or not.
I don't play the spring training games but I believe one of the default parks, either major or minor, are probably used. I looked at both of them and the grid on the minor looks like it needs adjustment. Part of the RF stands is sticking out past the grid and the short left field wall needs to be move out towards the field.
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Tiger Stadium. The 1B takes off across the diamond before the pitcher starts his windup. Double to LF, 1B hangs out sort of in the basepath between 2nd and 3rd.

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I don't play the spring training games but I believe one of the default parks, either major or minor, are probably used. I looked at both of them and the grid on the minor looks like it needs adjustment. Part of the RF stands is sticking out past the grid and the short left field wall needs to be move out towards the field.
Nice! I tried briefly to address this, and was unable to figure out how to extend the RF wall further to the right. The LF wall I took care of without a problem, but I was unable to figure out how to add a fencepost to the right of the final wall post.

I plan to try again later, but any hints or links to tutorials or whatever would be appreciated!
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