Silvam's parks with background and 3D crowd

[zappa1]

Originally Posted by adion

I have a Radeon 7700 series card and it works fine. I did have a Nvidia and had all kinds of problems because of it. I don't know how old your 3000 series is but make sure you have the most current drivers and opengl loaded. You may have to uninstall your current drivers, even if it is the current one, and install the current drive fresh. Some time it gets corrupted when it installs over old drivers. Also, these parks need to be installed in the Models folder or they don't work.

I hope this helps.

Yes, the parks are installed in the Models folder. I will try uninstalling the driver and reinstalling it. They all show and play well. Just no crowds. Thanks.

[adion]

Originally Posted by zappa1

Yes, the parks are installed in the Models folder. I will try uninstalling the driver and reinstalling it. They all show and play well. Just no crowds. Thanks.

If updating the driver doesn't work then I suspect your card is too old. They all play okay on my system and I haven't gotten any others messages with problems like you have, just some realy dark crowds with I am working on.

[zappa1]

Originally Posted by adion

If updating the driver doesn't work then I suspect your card is too old. They all play okay on my system and I haven't gotten any others messages with problems like you have, just some realy dark crowds with I am working on.

I think it may be obsolete. At the AMD web site it says they won't be upgrading series 3000 and 4000 anymore. I've always hated having on board graphics instead of a separate card. I'll have to invest in one, I guess. Thanks. Everyone probably has a newer card than I do. lol Not no real big problem, though. I can play just fine. The parks that you put the backgrounds in are all good. I'll do some checking of cards and pick out a new one.

[zappa1]

Here is a shot of Metropolitan. I get the backgrounds. No crowd. I've checked the driver. It's the latest for what I have. Opengl only 3.1. Do not have Opengl 4.0. Maybe that's the problem. Need a new card.

[adion]

Originally Posted by zappa1

Here is a shot of Metropolitan. I get the backgrounds. No crowd. I've checked the driver. It's the latest for what I have. Opengl only 3.1. Do not have Opengl 4.0. Maybe that's the problem. Need a new card.

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Sure sound and looks like your card.

[adion]

Here is Silvam's Wrigley 28 with a background and 3D crowd I named it 1928-1937 to fit in with the eras I have Wrigley. I have not uploaded it now. It will be included with the updated parks that I am almost finished with. The exception to the update may be Tiger/Briggs as I have some problems with them. I may have to ask Silvam for assistance if I can't get these right.

[adion]

Here are pictures of the 2 recent Baker Field versions that Silvam recently up loaded. I named put these into eras 1910-1914 & 1915-1938 and renamed the previous version to era 1895-1909. These have been added to the updated files I am now uploading. I have reviewed, fixed as needed and tested all these parks in OOTP 18 and all the crowds look good. A few have a bright spot on the left field crowd. Hopefully that can be fixed but is not real bad. I have not test these parks in OOTP 17 yet. However, if the work in 18 they will work in 17. If you still have very dark crowds in 17 it is because of how the shader files are formatted in that version. I have turned off all the shadows in the models. Tigers and Briggs stadiums are not included in the new upload because I am have problems with them because of their origin (3D warehouse) I think. When I get them fixed I will upload them. The upload I am doing now is 93 files. So it will take a while to finish. The message on the upload page shows about 5 hours. If you find any problems with the parks let me know.

[adion]

I just checked a couple of the parks that had very dark crowds in 17 and they still do. So, it is a game issue not a park issue. There is no way for me to fix it. They are fine in 18 which is schedule to be out some time in March.

[zappa1]

Looking at these old Baker Bowls, I got to wondering when in fact the Lifebuoy sign first came to be. I couldn't find any concrete info as to when it appeared except that it was after the final height of the wall was 60 feet including the fence on top of the wall. The later 20's I'm guessing. Like maybe 1929. It was so high then they had all that room to paint the Lifebuoy sign. Maybe somebody has the exact year it came to be. Surely it was a crazy ballpark with many changes over the years.

[adion]

Originally Posted by zappa1

Looking at these old Baker Bowls, I got to wondering when in fact the Lifebuoy sign first came to be. I couldn't find any concrete info as to when it appeared except that it was after the final height of the wall was 60 feet including the fence on top of the wall. The later 20's I'm guessing. Like maybe 1929. It was so high then they had all that room to paint the Lifebuoy sign. Maybe somebody has the exact year it came to be. Surely it was a crazy ballpark with many changes over the years.

If you look at the pictures in the below link you can see the Lifebuoy soap sign but it does not show the the left field corner so I can't determine what era is from. So I left it where it was on Silvam's original. You can also see a Fatima sign in a picture of the field with the extended bleachers. I think I see if I can find a Fatima sign and, if I do, I will add it.

Baker Bowl - history, photos and more of the Philadelphia Phillies former ballpark

[zappa1]

I found this one today searching for info on the Lifebuoy sign.



The text from this pic says 1900's to 1910's.

[zappa1]

Adion, how many parks in your last upload. I've got 79. Is this correct?

[zappa1]

1913 Phillies Team pic. Fatima cigarettes.

[adion]

Originally Posted by zappa1

I found this one today searching for info on the Lifebuoy sign.

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The text from this pic says 1900's to 1910's.

This is good. I will see if I can find some similiar signs. Any chance you can find a photo like after 1915?

[adion]

Originally Posted by zappa1

Adion, how many parks in your last upload. I've got 79. Is this correct?

93 files. The are still uploading.

[zappa1]

Originally Posted by adion

This is good. I will see if I can find some similiar signs. Any chance you can find a photo like after 1915?

I will keep searching. It is a hard one to find photos of for sure. Have been looking for years. Also, when I find one, they don't always say from what year. I've done a lot of reading to try to get some clues.

[adion]

Originally Posted by adion

93 files. The are still uploading.

They are finished uploading now.

[zappa1]

Notes from the pic of the wall above,

This shot must have been taken in the 1900s or 1910s, because there is a beer sign (before Prohibition) and the fence is moved in tight at center (there would later be a gap between those center field seats and the fence, which provided sort of a strange nook you can see below). Notice how center field stands seem to extend into the field. I also don’t see the Lifebuoy sign or the tin fence above. I do know they moved the rightfield wall back about 8 feet in the 1920s. I’m thinking that that created the strange nook in center, and is why you don’t see it in the above photo. As for the giant tin wall in right, that was an added creation once they realized how absurdly easy it was to hit a home run there.

[zappa1]

This shot gives you a good idea of just how tall that crazy right field wall was. 60 feet, 23 feet taller than the Green Monster. Check out how it looms over the guy in right field. It was constructed of a bunch of different materials, then covered with tin, so it made a very distinctive sound when the ball hit it. And keep in mind, the mesh fence above the green was also part of the field.




This is why I say the Lifebuoy sign wasn't painted until the wall was at it's finished height.

Also, I'm only trying to figure out what years the Lifebuoy sign was used. I found through reading that the vandals that painted "and they still stink" under the Lifebuoy sign was in 1936. So, my guess is the Lifebuoy sign was painted late 20's early 30's. Funny this is hard to find. You would think it'd be an easy find.

[adion]

Originally Posted by zappa1

This shot gives you a good idea of just how tall that crazy right field wall was. 60 feet, 23 feet taller than the Green Monster. Check out how it looms over the guy in right field. It was constructed of a bunch of different materials, then covered with tin, so it made a very distinctive sound when the ball hit it. And keep in mind, the mesh fence above the green was also part of the field.

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This is why I say the Lifebuoy sign wasn't painted until the wall was at it's finished height.

Also, I'm only trying to figure out what years the Lifebuoy sign was used. I found through reading that the vandals that painted "and they still stink" under the Lifebuoy sign was in 1936. So, my guess is the Lifebuoy sign was painted late 20's early 30's. Funny this is hard to find. You would think it'd be an easy find.

According to what I found, Lifebouy was sold in the country from 1923 to the 50's. So I will put a sign for that in 1915-1938 version and no booze. I already up dated the 10-14 version and will see if I can remove the lifebouy sign from the early version and put some other stuff up.