ML Roster thread

[deadlock0071]

Originally Posted by KentCol

The Rangers roster was alittle off too. For example, Napoli not rated at 1B, Lewis and Wilson's Stamina rating far too low. But what I did was just edited them myself and I'm happy.

I noticed Napoli also but forgot to post it.

Also I believe he is only supposed to have 1 year left of arbitration and I think I saw in the game last night that it showed he has two years.

[CubbyFan23]

Originally Posted by JoshiQ

Oh, I do agree that contracts should be set up properly as they were the day of Opening Day. That would seem logical, and there are a few errors. Most of them were fixed with the updated quick start. Only one I can really think of right now is Carlos Silva's contract with the Yankees as Silva signed a minor league contract with them, not a two year contract. But things like that are going to slip through the cracks. Not a big deal.

I will always sympathize with the roster makers, because I know how painful the process is, but the rosters that shipped with the game this year are pretty rough. After going through the entire final set, there are quite a few salary mistakes and service times that are significantly (1-2 years) off.

What's done is done, though, and I'm glad the dev team is correcting the issues and moving forward. The game is awesome, a clear upgrade over v11, and I am tremendously impressed that they were able to get out not only OOTP12, but the iPhone app as well in one year. That's a LOT of work.

[deadlock0071]

Originally Posted by CubbyFan23

I will always sympathize with the roster makers, because I know how painful the process is, but the rosters that shipped with the game this year are pretty rough. After going through the entire final set, there are quite a few salary mistakes and service times that are significantly (1-2 years) off.

What's done is done, though, and I'm glad the dev team is correcting the issues and moving forward. The game is awesome, a clear upgrade over v11, and I am tremendously impressed that they were able to get out not only OOTP12, but the iPhone app as well in one year. That's a LOT of work.

I agree, the last version I purchased was 10 and this game is a nice upgrade from that!

[CubbyFan23]

Also, I'd like to point out that the team has taken GIANT steps forward in providing roster sets with the game. I can remember the good ol' days when the rosters were either A.) very sparse, or B.) non-existent. For those of us who like to mod rosters, having them to the point they are with this release basically saved an entire month of work-time that would normally have to go into a roster project before any of the other work even begins. These guys have put in a ton of time, and they should be applauded. Don't worry, there will always be third party rosters for those who need all of the nitty gritty details!

[Johnny93g]

Brett Lawrie, Blue Jays AAA prospect

Yes, just a prospect, so no MLB numbers to add for my argument, but he doesn't look too appealing in game.

Preseason prospect rankings for him looked like this:
Ranking in ScoutingBook (6/23/2011): #17
Ranking in MLB.com/MiLB.com Season Preview: #28
Ranking from Sports Illustrated/AOL: #45
Ranking from ESPN: #37
Ranking in Baseball America 2011: #40
Ranking in Baseball Prospectus: #67

He is not listed in the top 100 prospects in OOTP12.
His current AAA numbers: .354, with 15 hr and 51 rbi's in 52 games
OOTP projects him to hit .227 with 12 hr's and .360 slg for a full MLB season, while rotochamp projects a .253 with 6 hr's and a SLG of .418 the rest if the way.

My point is he's a top prospect. He was coming into the season. His potential needs a boost IMO. Maybe a 14/14/11 would do the trick.

[Johnny93g]

Jose Bautista

1 complaint. His eye in OOTP is just 14. 14 is good, but Bautista's eye is better then most major league players. Morgan Ensberg is rated better then Bautista in eye/discipline in game.

2009- 13.9 walk percentage
2010- 14.6 walk percentage
2011- 20.9 walk percentage

He seems to be improving in that area every year. Adam Dunn had a 11.9 % walk rate last season, which is a career low, but is rated best in the game for eye/discipline

I hear the broadcasters talk about how good Bautista's eye is. He doesn't chase, won't swing at bad pitches, and rarely misses when he gets that one pitch per at bat.

Not a huge change, but it needs a bump

[Johnny93g]

Ricky Romero

OOTP sees him as a back end starter at best. The real life Romero is a potential ace who has improved each season he's played.

2009 13-9, 4.30 era, WHIP 1.52
2010 14-9, 3.73 era, WHIP 1.29
2011 6-7, 2.98 era, WHIP 1.19

Walks are down, strikeouts are up.

OOTP is projecting a 4.09 era, which is about where you would think his 2nd year would be after his rookie season. Instead, he was been improving steadily. He looks very pedestrian via OOTP.

His control, most of all, could use a nice bump. I would suggest he should be a 15/13/13 type pitchers. He's a workhorse, who keeps improving, not a back end starter.

[md5423]

Chicago Cubs fixes

Here are a few Cubs fixes that have not been pointed out.

I believe that current in-game FA Augie Ojeda should be in the Cubs organization. Please correct me If I am wrong.

Another Thing, Jay Jackson starts out in Short-A Boise Hawks in the game, but in reality he was in AAA last year and started this year in AAA again. His potential ratings are good but I think that his current ratings should be a little better because he was 11-8 last year with a 4.63 ERA in AAA (IOWA CUBS). Those stats are not great but I think he deserves better that his current 25/27/22 in game... (1 to 100 scale)

Kyler Burke - in the game Burke is a RF, but he recently converted into a pitcher and is starting again in Short Season A Boise. If he is left as an outfielder maybe you guys could make it so that he has some potential as a pitcher so that we can convert him.
HERE IS THE SOURCE:
Hawks prospect Kyler Burke is back in Boise, only this time he’s a pitcher | Boise Hawks | Idaho Statesman


One last thing, in the game, SP Doug Davis is in the Cubs minor league system (AAA) with a one year contract worth 900,000. In reality he did not sign until AFTER Opening Day on April 12.

It would be awesome if this stuff was all fixed!

[udbacker58]

Originally Posted by md5423

Chicago Cubs fixes

Here are a few Cubs fixes that have not been pointed out.

Tyler Colvin - I am using a 1 to 100 scale and his HR power is rated at 51. He hit 20 homers last year in 358 at-bats. Example: Matt LaPorta 1B of the Indians hit 12 homers last year in 376 at-bats but his HR power rating is at 63.
I think that Colvin should get a bump up in his HR power ratings. In the editor, his ratings estimated stats only show 16 homers in 550 at-bats.

Also, I believe that current in-game FA Augie Ojeda should be in the Cubs organization. Please correct me If I am wrong.

Another Thing, Jay Jackson starts out in Short-A Boise Hawks in the game, but in reality he was in AAA last year and started this year in AAA again. His potential ratings are good but I think that his current ratings should be a little better because he was 11-8 last year with a 4.63 ERA in AAA (IOWA CUBS). Those stats are not great but I think he deserves better that his current 25/27/22 in game... (1 to 100 scale)

Kyler Burke - in the game Burke is a RF, but he recently converted into a pitcher and is starting again in Short Season A Boise. If he is left as an outfielder maybe you guys could make it so that he has some potential as a pitcher so that we can convert him.
HERE IS THE SOURCE:
Hawks prospect Kyler Burke is back in Boise, only this time he’s a pitcher | Boise Hawks | Idaho Statesman


One last thing, in the game, SP Doug Davis is in the Cubs minor league system (AAA) with a one year contract worth 900,000. In reality he did not sign until AFTER Opening Day on April 12.

It would be awesome if this stuff was all fixed!

Preseason preditions had Colvin pegged at about .250 with 20 HR in 500+ ABs, and he has a whopping 5 HR in nearly 200 AB so far split between AAA and the Majors. I'd say the HR rating for him is about right at 16 in 500+ AB. Remember, the editor predicts stats in a neutral environment; Wrigley Field is probably going to yield more HR than a neutral park too.

With Jackson (and all pitchers) ERA isn't the thing you need to look at, it's his rate stats. I would agree that he's set a little low, but he shouldn't be anything more than 6 K/9, 4 BB/9, and 1.5 HR/9 at the Major League level (and that is high considering those are his AAA numbers).

[Hoosiergator22]

Look at cargo and sano trout as top 100 prospects. Ratings and scouting seem low.

[md5423]

Originally Posted by udbacker58

Preseason preditions had Colvin pegged at about .250 with 20 HR in 500+ ABs, and he has a whopping 5 HR in nearly 200 AB so far split between AAA and the Majors. I'd say the HR rating for him is about right at 16 in 500+ AB. Remember, the editor predicts stats in a neutral environment; Wrigley Field is probably going to yield more HR than a neutral park too.

With Jackson (and all pitchers) ERA isn't the thing you need to look at, it's his rate stats. I would agree that he's set a little low, but he shouldn't be anything more than 6 K/9, 4 BB/9, and 1.5 HR/9 at the Major League level (and that is high considering those are his AAA numbers).

It's Opening Day rosters so you can't go off of anything from this season.

[udbacker58]

Originally Posted by md5423

It's Opening Day rosters so you can't go off of anything from this season.

Right, I was mainly talking about the preseason projections, I was merely trying to emphasized that 2010 was an aberration for Colvin. It was a career high for HR in his first full season of big league action, the projections (and talent evaluators) didn't expect a repeat performance this year and he is backing that up on the field. As for his ratings, you have to remember that the stats you see in the editor don't take ballpark factors into account. Wrigley Field is 1.095 for lefty HR. The preseason projections had him at between 18 and 24, non-neutralized; 16 neutralized should be about right for Wrigley field.

I just simmed the season twice and he hit .242 with 17 HR one time and .252 with 19 the 2nd. The 2nd was a mirror of his ZiPS projections (.252/.296/.419 in game; .252/.299/.433 ZiPS).

I understand that the rosters are far from perfect, but I see no issues with Colvin. However, after looking at Jackson, I do have to agree that he could use some real tweaking. I'd say ratings in the mid 40s for stuff and movement and low 40s for control would be a little more appropriate.

[md5423]

Originally Posted by udbacker58

Right, I was mainly talking about the preseason projections, I was merely trying to emphasized that 2010 was an aberration for Colvin. It was a career high for HR in his first full season of big league action, the projections (and talent evaluators) didn't expect a repeat performance this year and he is backing that up on the field. As for his ratings, you have to remember that the stats you see in the editor don't take ballpark factors into account. Wrigley Field is 1.095 for lefty HR. The preseason projections had him at between 18 and 24, non-neutralized; 16 neutralized should be about right for Wrigley field.

I just simmed the season twice and he hit .242 with 17 HR one time and .252 with 19 the 2nd. The 2nd was a mirror of his ZiPS projections (.252/.296/.419 in game; .252/.299/.433 ZiPS).

I understand that the rosters are far from perfect, but I see no issues with Colvin. However, after looking at Jackson, I do have to agree that he could use some real tweaking. I'd say ratings in the mid 40s for stuff and movement and low 40s for control would be a little more appropriate.

You made a great point about Colvin there. His stats seem to be fine then. But yeah, Jackson really should get a bump in his ratings.

[ambill10]

I just want to mention that I think the roster set is getting blasted a little too much. There are issues with it, but that is unavoidable with the amount of information to include. I'm just happy that every player except one in the entire Cardinals minor league system was already there. I don't mind tinkering with things myself, I just appreciate not having to create a hundred players!

I don't know who the people are to ask about these things, but I would be willing to help with rosters in the future possibly. I am a bit of a stats and Excel junkie. I would especially be willing to help give minor league hitters better ratings. I have been changing players using Major League Equivalencies and I think the ratings are much more realistic. Too many minor league hitters have 1 gap power in the roster set and the BABIP numbers all seem higher than their MLE's are giving them.

At the Major League level, it seems like the ratings are pretty decent overall and it is really just the contracts that have some issues. Service time as well, but those seem to be just sporadic issues so far that I've found, most guys have accurate service time.

Does anyone have a strong understanding of the pitcher rating system? I feel comfortable with my approach to the batting ratings, but I can't seem to wrap my head around the pitching ratings in the editor like I have the hitting and fielding ratings. Any pointers or advice would be greatly appreciated!

P.S. - Awesome game. I am having a blast.

[ambill10]

Here is what I have collected regarding option years and no trade clauses across MLB. I attempted to include vesting options but might have missed a couple. Since mutual options are not in OOTP12 I may have listed some mutual options at team options for simplicity. If I do not list a buyout then there is not one listed. If I give an amount it means that the current roster set had an error in the years or amounts of the contract in addition to missing the option year information. All of this was collected using Cot's Baseball Contracts website compared to the current roster set.

I might try to list all of the contract bonuses next, but I didn't have time to attempt that daunting task today. I'm starting to regret the work I've put into the Cardinals minor league system considering the new roster set coming out in Patch #1 now. Anyway, here's the options list...

Arizona Diamondbacks

• Limited NTC: Justin Upton
• Chris Young: 2014 Club Option ($1.5M buyout)
• Stephen Drew: 2013 Mutual Option ($1.35M buyout)
• JJ Putz: 2013 Club Option ($1.5M buyout)
• Zach Duke: 2012 Club Option ($750K buyout)
• Henry Blanco: 2012 Mutual Option ($300K buyout)
• Willie Bloomquist: 2012 Mutual Option ($150K buyout)

Atlanta Braves

• Full NTC: Scott Linebrink,Alex Gonzalez
• Chipper Jones:
  • 2011: $13M
  • 2012: $13M
  • 2013: $7M Vesting Option ($9 with 123 GP in 2012, plus additional $1M for 128, 133, 138, 140 GP in 2012)
• Tim Hudson: 2013 Club Option ($1M buyout)
• Nate McLouth: 2012 Club Option ($1.25M buyout)
• Brain McCann: 2013 Club Option ($500K buyout)
• Eric Hinske: 2012 Club Option ($100K buyout)

Baltimore Orioles

• Full NTC: Brian Roberts
• Limited NTC: Nick Markakis
• Nick Markakis: 2015 Club Option ($2M buyout)
• Mark Reynolds: 2013 Club Option ($500K buyout)
• Kevin Gregg: 2013 Vesting Option (50 GF in 2012)

Boston Red Sox

• Full NTC: Carl Crawford, Daisuke Matsuzaka, Jason Varitek
• Limited NTC: JD Drew, Adrian Gonzalez
• Kevin Youkilis: 2013 Club Option ($2M buyout)
• (After Opening Day) Adrian Gonzalez signed 7-year extension paying $21M in years 1-5 and $21.5M in years 6-7
• Jon Lester: 2014 Club Option ($250K buyout)
• Dustin Pedroia: 2015 Club Option ($500K buyout)
• Marco Scutaro: 2012 $6M Club Option ($1.5M buyout)
• Dan Wheeler: 2012 Club Option
• (After Opening Day) Clay Buchholz signed 6-year extension paying 2012: $3.5M, 2013: $5.5M, 2014: $7.7M, 2015: $12M, 2016: $13M Club Option ($245K buyout), 2017: $13.5M Club Option ($500K buyout)

Chicago White Sox

• Full NTC: Mark Buehrle
• Limited NTC: Jake Peavy, Juan Pierre
• Jake Peavy: 2013 Club Option ($4M buyout)
• Alex Rios: 2015 Club Option ($1M buyout)
• Gavin Floyd: 2013 Club Option
• Matt Thornton: 2014 Club Option ($1M buyout)
• Alexei Ramirez: 2016 Club Option ($1M buyout)

Chicago Cubs

• Full NTC: Alfonso Soriano, Carlos Zambrano, Aramis Ramirez
• Aramis Ramirez: 2012 Club Option ($2M buyout)
• Ryan Dempster: 2012 Club Option
• Jeff Samardzija:
  • 2011: $3M
  • 2012: $3M Club Option
  • 2013: $3.5 Club Option

Cincinnati Reds

• Full NTC: Scott Rolen
• Limited NTC: Francisco Cordero, Jay Bruce
• Francisco Rodriguez: 2012 Club Option ($1M buyout)
• Brandon Phillips: 2012 Club Option ($1M buyout)
• Aroldis Chapman: 2015 Player Option
• Johnny Cueto: 2015 Club Option ($800K buyout)
• Jay Bruce: 2017 Club Option ($1M buyout)

Cleveland Indians

• Limited NTC: Travis Hafner
• Travis Hafner: 2013 Club Option ($2.75M buyout)
• Grady Sizemore: 2012 Club Option ($500K buyout)
• Fausto Carmona: 2012, 2013, 2014 Club Options

Colorado Rockies

• Aaron Cook: 2012 Club Option ($500K buyout)
• Jorge De La Rosa: 2013 Player Option, 2014 Club Option for $11M
• Huston Street: 2013 Club Option ($500K buyout)
• Troy Tulowitzki: 2021 Club Option ($4M buyout)
• Rafael Betancourt: 2013 Mutual Option ($250K buyout)
• Ty Wiggington: 2013 Club Option ($500K buyout)
• Ubaldo Jimenez: 2013, 2014 Club Options ($1M buyouts)
• Matt Lindstrom: 2013 Club Option ($200K buyout)
• Chris Ianetta: 2013 Club Option ($250K buyout)

Detroit Tigers

• Full NTC: Magglio Ordonez
• Limited NTC: Carlos Guillen
• Jose Valverde: 2012 Club Option
• Brandon Inge: 2013 Club Option ($500K buyout)
• Jhonny Peralta: 2013 Club Option ($500K buyout)
• Rick Porcello: 2012 Club Option for $1.3M
• Jacob Turner: 2014, 2015 Club Options for $1M each

Florida Marlins

• Full NTC: Javier Vazquez
• Javier Vazquez is only signed for 2011 at $7M

Houston Astros

• Wandy Rodriguez: 2014 Club Option ($2.5M buyout)
• Brett Myers: 2013 Club Option ($3M buyout)

Kansas City Royals

• Limited NTC: Joakim Soria
• Joakim Soria: 2012, 2013, 2014 Club Options ($750K buyouts)
• Billy Butler: 2015 Club Option ($1M buyout)

Los Angeles Angels

• Full NTC: Vernon Wells, Torii Hunter
• Dan Haren: 2013 Club Option ($3.5M buyout)
• Bobby Abreu: 2012 Club Option ($1M buyout)
• Ervin Santana: 2013 Club Option ($1M buyout)

Los Angeles Dodgers

• Full NTC: Hiroki Kuroda, Ted Lilly
• Limited NTC: Rafael Furcal
• Rafael Furcal: 2012 Club Option (Vests with 600 PA's in 2011)
• Chad Billingsly: 2015 Club Option ($3M buyout)
• Casey Blake: 2012 Club Option ($1.25M buyout)
• Jon Garland: 2012 Club Option (Vests with 190 IP in 2011)

Milwaukee Brewers

• Full NTC: Ryan Braun, Yovani Gallardo
• Limited NTC: Zach Greinke, Randy Wolf, Cory Hart
• Randy Wolf: 2013 Club Option ($1.5M buyout)
• Yuniesky Betancourt: 2012 Club Option ($2M buyout)
• (After Opening Day) Ryan Braun signed a 6-year extension paying 2016-2018: $19M, 2019: $18M, 2020: $16M, 2021: $15 Mutual Option ($4M buyout)

Minnesota Twins

• Full NTC: Joe Mauer
• Limited NTC: Joe Nathan, Carl Pavano
• Joe Nathan: 2012 Club Option ($2M buyout)
• Scott Baker: 2013 Club Option
• Nick Blackburn: 2014 Club Option
• Tsuyoshi Nishioka: 2014 Club Option ($250K buyout)
• Denard Span: 2015 Club Option ($500K buyout)

New York Yankees

• Full NTC: Alex Rodriguez, CC Sabathia, Mark Teixeira, Derek Jeter, Jorge Posada
• Derek Jeter: 2014 Player Option
• Robinson Cano: 2012, 2013 Club Options ($2M buyouts)
• Rafael Soriano: 2012, 2013 Club Options ($1.5M buyouts)
• Curtis Granderson: 2013 Club Option ($2M buyouts)
• Demaso Marte: 2012 Club Option ($250K buyout)

New York Mets

• Full NTC: Johan Santana, Carlos Beltran, Jason Bay
• Johan Santana: 2014 Club Option ($5.5M buyout)
• Jason Bay: 2014 Club Option ($3M buyout)
• David Wright: 2013 Club Option ($1M buyout)
• Francisco Rodriguez: 2012 Club Option ($3.5M buyout, vests with 55 GF in 2011)
• RA Dickey: 2013 Club Option ($300K buyout)

Oakland Athletics

• Full NTC: Mark Ellis
• Limited NTC: Rich Harden
• Brian Fuentes:
  • 2011: $5M
  • 2012: $5M
  • 2013: $6.5M Club Option ($500K buyout)
• Grant Balfour: 2013 Club Option ($350K buyout)
• Kurt Suzuki: 2014 Club Option ($650K buyout)
• Michael Wuertz: 2012 Club Option ($250K buyout)
• Brett Anderson: 2014, 2015 Club Options ($1.5M buyouts)
• Trevor Cahill: 2016 Club Option ($300K buyout), 2017 Club Option ($500K buyout)

Philadelphia Phillies:

• Full NTC: Roy Oswalt, Roy Oswalt
• Limited NTC: Ryan Howard, Cliff Lee, Chase Utley
• Roy Halladay:
  • 2011-2013: $20M
  • 2014: $20M Club Option (vests with 225 IP in 2013)
• Ryan Howard: 2017 Club Option ($10M buyout)
• Cliff Lee: 2016 Club Option ($12.5 buyout)
• Roy Oswalt: 2012 Club Option ($2M buyout)
• Brad Lidge: 2012 Club Option ($1.5M buyout)
• Placido Polanco: 2013 Mutual Option ($1M buyout)
• Carlos Ruiz: 2013 Club Option ($500K buyout)
• Jose Contreras: 2013 Club Option ($500K buyout)

Pittsburgh Pirates

• Chris Snyder: 2012 Club Option ($750K buyout)
• Paul Maholm: 2012 Club Option ($750K buyout)
• Ryan Doumit: 2012, 2013 Joint Club Option ($500K buyout)
• Pedro Alvarez: 2012, 2013 Club Options

San Diego Padres

• Jason Bartlett: 2013 Club Option for $5.5M ($1.5M buyout)
• Orlando Hudson: 2013 Club Option ($2M buyout)
• Aaron Harang: 2012 Mutual Option ($500K buyout)
• Brad Hawpe: 2012 Mutual Option ($1M buyout)
• Chad Qualls: 2012 Club Option ($1.05M buyout)

San Francisco Giants

• Full NTC: Barry Zito
• Limited NTC: Aaron Rowand, Matt Cain
• Barry Zito: 2014 Club Option ($7M buyout)
• Aubrey Huff: 2013 Club Option ($2M buyout)
• Jeremy Affeldt: 2012 Club Option ($500K buyout)

Seattle Mariners

• Limited NTC: Felix Hernandez, Ichiro Suzuki
• Chone Figgins: 2014 Vesting Option with 600 PA in 2013
• Franklin Gutierrez: 2014 Club Option ($500K buyout)

St. Louis Cardinals

• Full NTC: Matt Holliday, Kyle Lohse, Lance Berkman
• Matt Holliday: 2017 Club Option ($17M with $1M buyout)
• Chris Carpenter: 2012 Club Option ($1M buyout)
• Jake Westbrook: 2013 Club Option ($1M buyout)
• Adam Wainwright: 2012, 2013 Joint Club Option
• Yadier Molina: 2012 Club Option ($750K buyout)
• Zach Cox:
  • 2011: $600K
  • 2012: $750K
  • 2013: $850K

Tampa Bay Rays

• Ben Zobrist: 2014, 2015 Club Options ($2.5M, $500K buyouts)
• James Shields: 2012, 2013, 2014 Club Options ($2M, $1.5M, $1M buyouts)
• Kelly Shoppach: 2012 Club Option ($300K buyout)
• Kyle Farnsworth: 2012 Club Option for $3.3M ($650K buyout)
• Evan Longoria: 2014, 2015, 2016 Club Options ($3M buyout in 2014 only)
• Wade Davis: 2015, 2016, 2017 Club Options, 2017: $10M ($2.5M buyout)

Texas Rangers

• Adrian Beltre: 2016 Vesting Option (600 PA in 2015)
• Ian Kinsler: 2013 Club Option ($500K buyout)
• Scott Feldman: 2013 Club Option ($600K buyout)
• Arthur Rhodes: 2012 Vesting Option (62 Appearances in 2011)
• Colby Lewis: 2012 Club Option ($250K buyout)

Toronto Blue Jays

• Jose Batista: 2016 Club Option ($1M buyout)
• Adam Lind: 2014, 2015, 2016 Club Options ($2M, $1.5M, $1M buyouts)
• Aaron Hill:
  • 2012: $8M Club Option
  • 2013: $8M Club Option
  • 2014: $10M Club Option
• Jason Frasor: 2012 Club Option for $3.75M
• Jon Rauch: 2012 Club Option ($275K buyout)
• Octavio Dotel: 2012 Club Option ($750K buyout)
• Rajai Davis: 2013 Club Option ($500K buyout)
• Edwin Encarnacion: 2012 Club Option ($500K buyout)

Washington Nationals

• Full NTC: Jayson Werth
• Adam LaRoche: 2013 Mutual Option ($1M buyout)
• Sean Burnett: 2013 Mutual Option ($250K buyout)

Hopefully this is useful to people. I might have time tomorrow night to go through all of the contract bonuses, but that may take more time than I have in the next few days.

[ambill10]

Quick disclaimer, I just entered all of this contract information into my current game and noticed there were a few things I missed. There were a couple contracts whose start year was wrong and some contracts that were missing the final year. Also, it is too bad that you can only have the final two years of a contract be option years because many players on that list have three option years.

The contract options in general (length, option years) need to be revisited in light of recent contracts like Ryan Braun, Troy Tulowitzki, and Evan Longoria received. You cannot accurately enter those contracts in OOTP because of their length and option years.

Overall, the above list should cover most options and NTC's still. If anyone has time to do a service time audit and/or contract bonus audit, go for it and I won't do that after work today.

[AirmenSmith]

Originally Posted by ambill10

Quick disclaimer, I just entered all of this contract information into my current game and noticed there were a few things I missed. There were a couple contracts whose start year was wrong and some contracts that were missing the final year. Also, it is too bad that you can only have the final two years of a contract be option years because many players on that list have three option years.

The contract options in general (length, option years) need to be revisited in light of recent contracts like Ryan Braun, Troy Tulowitzki, and Evan Longoria received. You cannot accurately enter those contracts in OOTP because of their length and option years.

Overall, the above list should cover most options and NTC's still. If anyone has time to do a service time audit and/or contract bonus audit, go for it and I won't do that after work today.

My roster set in the mod section has all the option years and bonuses already done. I wasn't aware the service time was off, where is a good place to find that info at?

[ambill10]

Originally Posted by AirmenSmith

My roster set in the mod section has all the option years and bonuses already done. I wasn't aware the service time was off, where is a good place to find that info at?

Good to know, I'm going to save myself some time and check that out.

I've been using Cot's Baseball Contracts. Their service time numbers are all as of Opening Day 2011, so that works nicely.

Does your roster set have some of the major rating issues corrected that have been mentioned? For instance, Brandon Webb and Mike Trout (covering opposite ends of the spectrum). I'm not too worried about it, but the more accurate the opponents the better!

EDIT: The service time is only wrong in maybe 5-10% of players and that could just be differences between source information. I've seen a lot of variation in service time between sources when looking it up in other instances, so it might not be much of a problem at all.

[AirmenSmith]

Originally Posted by ambill10

Good to know, I'm going to save myself some time and check that out.

I've been using Cot's Baseball Contracts. Their service time numbers are all as of Opening Day 2011, so that works nicely.

Does your roster set have some of the major rating issues corrected that have been mentioned? For instance, Brandon Webb and Mike Trout (covering opposite ends of the spectrum). I'm not too worried about it, but the more accurate the opponents the better!

EDIT: The service time is only wrong in maybe 5-10% of players and that could just be differences between source information. I've seen a lot of variation in service time between sources when looking it up in other instances, so it might not be much of a problem at all.

I used cots site as well. I'll look into the service time on there then. Thanks. I used the latest ootp roster set and just corrected all the contracts $800000 and up. One thing I like that I did was add in money owed to players not on the team anymore. I didn't touch ratings or anything along that line, ratings are a bit beyond me lol. If you try it out and see any errors please let me know if you find any so I can update them.

[DDover]

Carlos Lee started splitting time last year (and in Spring Training) between LF and 1B. He gets most starts when there is a lefty on the mound. He's got no rating at 1B in this roster set - and ratings of 1 across the board for his infield ratings.

The Astros are bad enough without making it harder!