The European football thread - Page 9

rudel.dietrich · 07-15-2006, 12:37 AM

Juventus would make a very good FM scenario. Down 30 points to start the season you must battle back to Serie A

The Just · 07-15-2006, 12:39 AM

That'd be cool if Jurgen Klinsmann would coach the United States. However, nobody knows if Klinsmann would really want the job, as no offers have been made yet.

There are other possibilities. Here's a nice list taken from FoxSports.com:

"There are a growing number of international mercenary coaches — such as Bruno Metsu, former coach of Senegal; Dick Advocaat (South Korea and a former NASL player), Phillipe Troussier, Henri Michel (Tunisia) — are available. And then there's Dutch coach Guus Hiddink, who led Australia and South Korea and whose contract with Russia seems to have collapsed, and who's name might bubble to the surface."

ukhotstove · 07-15-2006, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Just

That'd be cool if Jurgen Klinsmann would coach the United States. However, nobody knows if Klinsmann would really want the job, as no offers have been made yet.

There are other possibilities. Here's a nice list taken from FoxSports.com:

"There are a growing number of international mercenary coaches — such as Bruno Metsu, former coach of Senegal; Dick Advocaat (South Korea and a former NASL player), Phillipe Troussier, Henri Michel (Tunisia) — are available. And then there's Dutch coach Guus Hiddink, who led Australia and South Korea and whose contract with Russia seems to have collapsed, and who's name might bubble to the surface."

Perfect scenario imo for the USA team is if Hiddinks not going to Russia then hire him at all costs and put one of the brightest American born coaches on his staff to learn from him so in say 3-4 years you'll have an American born coach with experience in international football, personally I wish England would have gone down this road with Hiddink or Scolari with Stuart Pearce under their wing.

ukhotstove · 07-15-2006, 04:00 AM

Biggest losers in the Italian scandal are the fans, people who weren't involved in the scandal the fans. Maybe oneday not only footbal but all sports will be given back to the fans and not the men in suits.

theasfl · 07-15-2006, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

Biggest losers in the Italian scandal are the fans, people who weren't involved in the scandal the fans. Maybe oneday not only footbal but all sports will be given back to the fans and not the men in suits.

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theasfl · 07-15-2006, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

Results of Italian match-fixing scandal investigation from the FIGC.

Juventus - relegated to Serie B, deducted 30 points, stripped of Serie A titles of 2005 and 2006.

this makes me sad

theasfl · 07-15-2006, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

Perfect scenario imo for the USA team is if Hiddinks not going to Russia then hire him at all costs and put one of the brightest American born coaches on his staff to learn from him so in say 3-4 years you'll have an American born coach with experience in international football, personally I wish England would have gone down this road with Hiddink or Scolari with Stuart Pearce under their wing.

this would make me very happy and get me over Juventus.

Herd Fan · 07-15-2006, 08:46 AM

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this makes me sad

Me too...except it's because I feel they should be playing in Serie C2 this year. They got off easy because of their pedigree imo.

ukhotstove · 07-15-2006, 09:10 AM

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Me too...except it's because I feel they should be playing in Serie C2 this year. They got off easy because of their pedigree imo.

With the points deduction though it's going to make it very unlikely that they will get promoted next season so in a way it's like they have been demoted to Serie C2, I feel sorry for the fans to be honest as their going to end up watching a bunch of second rate players in a lower league for no fault of their own.

ukhotstove · 07-15-2006, 09:19 AM

Forgot who the Hearts fn amongst us is but news coming out is that Andy Webster is leaving and joining my local team Wigan Athletic.

Herd Fan · 07-15-2006, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

With the points deduction though it's going to make it very unlikely that they will get promoted next season so in a way it's like they have been demoted to Serie C2, I feel sorry for the fans to be honest as their going to end up watching a bunch of second rate players in a lower league for no fault of their own.

Not really. If they were in C2 they would have to win promotion to C1 before they could even think about Serie B. And even more of their players would leave the team.

Herd Fan · 07-15-2006, 10:20 AM

ukhotstove, is there any buzz about Ipswich Town over there? They are one of my favorite teams but it's very difficult to follow them in the states...only the internet to feed my craving. I was sad to see Royle go as I thought he had done a good job. Do pundits think they have a chance at promotion? It should be easier now that West Ham is out of the Championship.

canadiancreed · 07-15-2006, 10:31 AM

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I hate the fact that MLS is expanding beyond our borders. I realize the English leagues have teams from Wales, but that is a different situation altogether. We should not have Canadian teams in our top flight soccer league.

PIng: Myopic American baseball, basketball, and hockey fans

(And yes I know, I"m late, but better than never

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canadiancreed · 07-15-2006, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

Fallschirmjager should start an MLS thread so we can yak about the Yourapeeins.

Isn't the MLS part of this vast umbrella.

And is there no leagues worthy of talk outside of the MLS and Western Europe? Is Eastern Euro a black hole or something?

canadiancreed · 07-15-2006, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bababui

The San Francisco Fairymen would be appropriate though..

Herd Fan · 07-15-2006, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by canadiancreed

PIng: Myopic American baseball, basketball, and hockey fans

(And yes I know, I"m late, but better than never

)

Would that be the same hockey where the top league has shipped most of Canada's teams to the US?

I have no problem with any of our other "domestic" sports expanding to Canada. Heck, calling MLB or the NBA "American" leagues is laughable at best. The best players in baseball no longer come from the US and basketball is slanting that way. Obviously hockey has always been like that. MLS international expansion bothers me because I believe putting a team in Canada (that could be in the USA) will hurt the development of US Soccer. Those young new fans/players gained by Toronto will suit up for Canada, not the US. As one of MLS's stated goals is advancing US Soccer I'd say they are making a mistake.

ukhotstove · 07-15-2006, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Herd Fan

ukhotstove, is there any buzz about Ipswich Town over there? They are one of my favorite teams but it's very difficult to follow them in the states...only the internet to feed my craving. I was sad to see Royle go as I thought he had done a good job. Do pundits think they have a chance at promotion? It should be easier now that West Ham is out of the Championship.

Tractor boys not heard much about them although weird thing was we have a programme called "The Football Years" in which they concentrate on a certain year and not only show football highlights but also what was happeing in England at the time, this week it was 1981/82 and showed quite a bit about Ipswich.

darkhorse · 07-15-2006, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

With the points deduction though it's going to make it very unlikely that they will get promoted next season

Impossible, I'd say.

darkhorse · 07-15-2006, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by canadiancreed

Isn't the MLS part of this vast umbrella.

Nope. Thread title and initial post might be clues to that.

"After the sucessful WC thread (which is still ongoing) I decided a week or so ago that there is enough of a following around here to give football its own season thread.
Most of Europe is gearing up for the 06/07 campaign and this is the thread to disscuss it all.
Enlgish football, SPL, Bundesliga, French football, Serie A, Spanish club play and everything else."

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Originally Posted by canadiancreed

And is there no leagues worthy of talk outside of Western Europe? Is Eastern Euro a black hole or something?

Thread title and initial post might answer your question.

Herd Fan · 07-15-2006, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

Tractor boys not heard much about them although weird thing was we have a programme called "The Football Years" in which they concentrate on a certain year and not only show football highlights but also what was happeing in England at the time, this week it was 1981/82 and showed quite a bit about Ipswich.

Ahh, the heady days of yore. If you've never heard the call of Osborne's game winner vs. the Gunners in the 78 FA Cup Final, you owe it to yourself. I can't find it on the net anymore, but it gave me chills the first time I heard it (I'd just been born when it actually happened so don't remember it). The roar of the crowd followed by "Ipswich one, Arsenal nill. Osborne the scorer." Great stuff.

07-15-2006, 12:39 AM	#162
The Just Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 122	That'd be cool if Jurgen Klinsmann would coach the United States. However, nobody knows if Klinsmann would really want the job, as no offers have been made yet. There are other possibilities. Here's a nice list taken from FoxSports.com: "There are a growing number of international mercenary coaches — such as Bruno Metsu, former coach of Senegal; Dick Advocaat (South Korea and a former NASL player), Phillipe Troussier, Henri Michel (Tunisia) — are available. And then there's Dutch coach Guus Hiddink, who led Australia and South Korea and whose contract with Russia seems to have collapsed, and who's name might bubble to the surface." __________________

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Herd Fan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 129	ukhotstove, is there any buzz about Ipswich Town over there? They are one of my favorite teams but it's very difficult to follow them in the states...only the internet to feed my craving. I was sad to see Royle go as I thought he had done a good job. Do pundits think they have a chance at promotion? It should be easier now that West Ham is out of the Championship.