Official Rolen/Cubby Player Rating Question Thread

[ptwarr18]

Wow... If hes the Brian Anderson from Chicago I think he's batting sub 200 this year, hes staying in the lineup because of his extraordinary Defense in center

[bgstmetfan]

If you don't change the values, that is not a problem, as I will once I d/l the final version. Here are my updates for the Mets:

-Aaron Heilman belongs in the pen, while Steve Trachsel belongs in the rotation.
-The opening day lineup was:
SS-Reyes
C- Lo Duca
CF- Beltran
1B- Delgado
3B- Wright
LF- Floyd
RF- Nady
2B- Hernandez
-Glavine's numbers should be a lot better than4.63ERA 184.2 IP 72BB 58K after one season of simming.

The following three need slight improvements, as Wright+Beltran+Reyes will stroke a few more HR, and Reyes is actually walking a lot this season. Thanks!!

After 1 Season of simming:
Wright: .297/.367/.868 25HR 102RBI
Beltran: .287/.366/.803 23HR 80RBI
Reyes: .299/.335/.756 8HR 33BB 43SB
Victor Zambrano was alive.

[CubbyFan23]

Originally Posted by bgstmetfan

If you don't change the values, that is not a problem, as I will once I d/l the final version. Here are my updates for the Mets:

-Aaron Heilman belongs in the pen, while Steve Trachsel belongs in the rotation.
-The opening day lineup was:
SS-Reyes
C- Lo Duca
CF- Beltran
1B- Delgado
3B- Wright
LF- Floyd
RF- Nady
2B- Hernandez
-Glavine's numbers should be a lot better than4.63ERA 184.2 IP 72BB 58K after one season of simming.

The following three need slight improvements, as Wright+Beltran+Reyes will stroke a few more HR, and Reyes is actually walking a lot this season. Thanks!!

After 1 Season of simming:
Wright: .297/.367/.868 25HR 102RBI
Beltran: .287/.366/.803 23HR 80RBI
Reyes: .299/.335/.756 8HR 33BB 43SB
Victor Zambrano was alive.

I'm not gonna lie, I like those numbers a lot, outside of perhaps a little boost in power to Wright and Glavine. I just had the computer automanage teams, so the lineups probably won't be 2006 Opening Day ones, since it's hard to get the computer in MLB to agree with real life counterparts.

[bgstmetfan]

Originally Posted by CubbyFan23

I'm not gonna lie, I like those numbers a lot, outside of perhaps a little boost in power to Wright and Glavine. I just had the computer automanage teams, so the lineups probably won't be 2006 Opening Day ones, since it's hard to get the computer in MLB to agree with real life counterparts.

That's cool. Just figure'd I give you a heads up. And please, for the love of Godot, kill-off Victor Zambrano. And when you're filling out AAA Norfolk, NO LIMA TIME!!!! Please?

[bgstmetfan]

Cubby, the rosters look amazing. I simmed a few more years and got WONDERFUL results. Giles led the league in walks, Reyes in steals, Howard in HRs... awesome!!

Quick question. I read somewhere a little while ago that the air or the balls, or something was adjusted at Coors Field to help the park a little bit and not make it nearly as much of a hitter's haven. Does anyone else know if this is true? If so, can you include a link so Cubby can alter Coors if need be? Thanks.

[tehwholeworld]

Originally Posted by jewaid

I just simmed one season real quick before I left for work so didn't have time to look extensively but did notice Brian N. Anderson went....
.322-43-132
just thought that was rather high.

Yea, thats just a bit high for him. He's not even projected to be that much of a power hitter. Thats nearly double the amount of HR's he'll ever hit in a season in real life (I believe he projects to hit about 25 HR a year).

Originally Posted by ptwarr18

Wow... If hes the Brian Anderson from Chicago I think he's batting sub 200 this year, hes staying in the lineup because of his extraordinary Defense in center

Yes, thats him. He's starting to hit better though, getting some nice swings recently.

[alasxdair]

Originally Posted by BadluckinOOTP

See the post after yours, the guy saying that stars aren't any good. I was TRYING to be funny.

Ahh. You had quoted my post, so I guess I was a little misled

[Spindel]

Here's my suggestions (quick look):

Bobby Abreu walks more, batting average might be a bit better too.
Jimmy Rollins has slightly more power.
Cole Hamels might be farther along.
Wolfie should be on the DL until late July. (About 8 months.)

[hardcorebubba]

I think these players for the braves that i think should be rated a higher

Jeff Francoeur
Ken Ray
Joey Devine ( he didn't start the year on the DL )

Jorge Sosa potential seems a little high

[pstrickert]

Thanks for the rosters - GREAT JOB, GUYS! I ran a sim earlier today and noticed that Prince Fielder (MILW) has a very high power rating (88, if I recall correctly). He hit 46 home runs in the sim season. I think he's rated a bit high.

[live98king]

What destination on an Apple does the Folder need to be in. When starting a new league, do I use historical league or what? I've looked for a detailed outline of where this folder needs to go and how to actually get it started within the game.

I'm new to the game and was able to get the AROD database to work and used the .csv file. Can someone please provide assistance so I can use this roster set. I'm so excited to use it.

Thanks!

[MrRazor16]

Hey..

Jose Reyes - Most scouts project him to be a 20 HR a year guy. already on pace for about 12-15 this year. I understand he's 23 and its hard to project, but i think his power potential could be a bit higher.

THanks for all your work!!

[Willmore]

Coming from a true astros fan who hates the brewers, i dont see how you can say that. Are you trying to say he is an average pitcher who got lucky last year winning 18 games and off to another projected 18 win season this year? What makes you think he is an average pitcher?

I can say that for several reasons.

1. He posted above average numbers in the NL, ergo he's an average pitcher. See Arroyo or Weaver or Pedro for changes between AL and NL.

2. He had a 4.67 DIPS last year. Compared to his actual ERA of 3.99. He was lucky.

3. His BIPA was .273. Meaning that some balls that should have been hits, were not. He was lucky, not by much, but by enough.

4. He walked 91 batters in 219 innings. 3.74 BB/9. That's not good.

5. He allowed 31 homers in 219 innings. 1.27 HR/9. That's not good.

How he didn't allow more earned runs is beyond me, wait, no it's not, it's luck.

He was plane lucky. Just like there are a dozen other lucky years or stretches for pitchers. Luck didn't make him a better pitcher, just one who put up good performances based off of nothing he was responsible for.



Now this year is somewhat different. This year, he is good. But half a year of good performance can not be justification enough to rate him as a good pitcher. Right now, my expectation, and most realistic expectation have to be that he is an average pitcher. I can expect a 4.00 ERA from him every year, and some years he's going to get a flukey 3.2 ERA season, some years, he will be as bad as a 4.60.

Also, minor league rankings mean almost nothing after an injury. More often than not, pitcher never reach the projected ability they had pre-injury.

[GoldenGlove]

I have not had time to sim, so I am asking if anyone has noticed how amateur players compare in talent to the file ratings. At first glance, the ratings seem low to me, but as long as the draft contains similar ratings, I will agree that these rosters are very good. My concern though is that after a decade of sims, the talent found in the draft will far exceed the talent currently. Please let me know if anyone has looked at this.

[tkirch]

Originally Posted by Willmore

I can say that for several reasons.

1. He posted above average numbers in the NL, ergo he's an average pitcher. See Arroyo or Weaver or Pedro for changes between AL and NL.

2. He had a 4.67 DIPS last year. Compared to his actual ERA of 3.99. He was lucky.

3. His BIPA was .273. Meaning that some balls that should have been hits, were not. He was lucky, not by much, but by enough.

4. He walked 91 batters in 219 innings. 3.74 BB/9. That's not good.

5. He allowed 31 homers in 219 innings. 1.27 HR/9. That's not good.

How he didn't allow more earned runs is beyond me, wait, no it's not, it's luck.

He was plane lucky. Just like there are a dozen other lucky years or stretches for pitchers. Luck didn't make him a better pitcher, just one who put up good performances based off of nothing he was responsible for.



Now this year is somewhat different. This year, he is good. But half a year of good performance can not be justification enough to rate him as a good pitcher. Right now, my expectation, and most realistic expectation have to be that he is an average pitcher. I can expect a 4.00 ERA from him every year, and some years he's going to get a flukey 3.2 ERA season, some years, he will be as bad as a 4.60.

Also, minor league rankings mean almost nothing after an injury. More often than not, pitcher never reach the projected ability they had pre-injury.

You have obviously never watched or heard of Chris Capuano. Let's see he led the league in pickoffs last year. Led the NL in strikeouts for a lefty and fourth in the league overall. One person has stolen a base in his last 36 starts against him. He has allowed 3 runs or less in 19 of his 26 starts last year and in 16 of his 19 this year. That is 3 runs or less.

HR's allowed are a misleading stat. Some of the best pitchers in baseball give up HR's. If no one is on base its not that big of a deal. He has given up only 25 walks this year. That is 1.3 per start. I'll take that.

I'm not saying he is elite but he is above average. Statistically he is the top tier of players in Wins, ERA, K's, Walks allowed, WHIP.

[brxnivy]

Originally Posted by GoldenGlove

I have not had time to sim, so I am asking if anyone has noticed how amateur players compare in talent to the file ratings. At first glance, the ratings seem low to me, but as long as the draft contains similar ratings, I will agree that these rosters are very good. My concern though is that after a decade of sims, the talent found in the draft will far exceed the talent currently. Please let me know if anyone has looked at this.

That is a known issue, and I've been trying to find time to run some tests on this. I know others are planning on the same thing. It does appear that the player creation modifiers are going to have to be lowered slightly in order to make the league playable for the long term.

[Athos52]

Originally Posted by brxnivy

That is a known issue, and I've been trying to find time to run some tests on this. I know others are planning on the same thing. It does appear that the player creation modifiers are going to have to be lowered slightly in order to make the league playable for the long term.

Shouldn't you be busy fixing Hattrick?

[brxnivy]

Originally Posted by Athos52

Shouldn't you be busy fixing Hattrick?

LOL, it broke after I beat you by so much in our friendly that the engine couldn't handle it

[Athos52]

Originally Posted by brxnivy

LOL, it broke after I beat you by so much in our friendly that the engine couldn't handle it

And I even played a bunch of starters this week.

[randomlefty10]

Originally Posted by tkirch

You have obviously never watched or heard of Chris Capuano. Let's see he led the league in pickoffs last year. Led the NL in strikeouts for a lefty and fourth in the league overall. One person has stolen a base in his last 36 starts against him. He has allowed 3 runs or less in 19 of his 26 starts last year and in 16 of his 19 this year. That is 3 runs or less.

HR's allowed are a misleading stat. Some of the best pitchers in baseball give up HR's. If no one is on base its not that big of a deal. He has given up only 25 walks this year. That is 1.3 per start. I'll take that.

I'm not saying he is elite but he is above average. Statistically he is the top tier of players in Wins, ERA, K's, Walks allowed, WHIP.

-Pickoffs? So? Give him a good holding runners rating. This means almost nothing. Moving on.

-Led 1/2 of 1/3 of MLB in Ks. Wow, whoopy. Meaningless.

-QS. Meaningless.

HRs allowed is NOT a misleading stat. It is what it is. All pitchers give up HRs. It's the interplay between Hits, Walks, Ks, and HRs that determine the overall effectiveness. And until this season Capuano basically rated as an average NL pitcher.

Stop quoting wins as an indicator of pitching ability. By doing so, you are immediately putting a giant "ignore this" sign in front of the rest of your argument. Wins are meaningless.