Time Warp Baseball - Page 85

rogmax11 · 07-17-2004, 01:55 PM

What a disappointing finish to such a brilliant start! Looks like the wheels started coming off from September 1 and didnt really stop until cratering in the Series sweep. I thought that Dad was on his way to perhaps one of his greatest seasons, but this may have been the least convincing POY of his career. That end-of-season swoon, 3-7 with a no-decision and an ERA ballooning by over half a run per 9 innings indicates either the byproduct of over-use or the beginnings of the onset of career decline. Or, hopefully, just a glitch in the machinery caused by anxiety over the worsening world condition and worries about his 5-year old daughters future.

Or perhaps, rumors began floating around the clubhouse of a potential ownership change, something murky and indistinct about something called The Ankhiel Group, and made even more unsettling due to the gathering darkness in Europe.

Or, more likely, it was a couple of bad Nathans dogs.

Matt from TN · 07-17-2004, 02:12 PM

1940 Postseason

World Series Champs - New York Yankees 14th AL Pennant, 8th WS Title

NL Champs - Brooklyn Dodgers 6th NL Pennant

AL BOY: Jessie "Bing" Holt, BOS, .338, 27 HR, 104 RBI
NL BOY: Jeff Bundy, BKN, .294, 28 HR, 109 RBI

AL POY: Bob Guilderson, DET, 26-11, 2.44 ERA, 150 BB, 178 K
NL POY: Frank Smith, BKN, 23-13, 2.18 ERA, 47 BB, 190 K - His 7th POY and 4th in a row!

AL ROY: Clay Pattishall, DET, 6-12, 4.92 ERA, 104 BB, 51 K
NL ROY: Joe Christie, STL, .307, 11 HR, 48 RBI

AL AVG: Clarence Davis, NYA, .388
NL AVG: "Fancy" Flip DeLeon, BKN, .327

AL HR: Daniel Lutzke, CLE, 35
NL HR: Oscar "The Kid" Vancini, BKN, 33

AL RBI: Carl "Dutch" Kahle, WSH, 106
NL RBI: Jeff Bundy, BKN, 109

AL SB: Joe Campbell, CLE, 66
NL SB: Jonny "Speedy" Perly, BKN, 78

AL ERA: Bob Guilderson, DET, 2.44
NL ERA: Frank Smith, BKN, 2.18

AL Wins: Bob Guilderson, DET, Lee Riley, NYA and Jethro Lee, WSH, 26
NL Wins: Brett Smith, STL, 24

AL K's: Jethro "Dodge" Lee, WSH, 215
NL K's: Frank Smith, BKN, 190

AL Saves: Don Redcloud, BOS, 17
NL Saves: Jake Cockman, STL, 10

Major League Records

ML - 104 K's (Batter), Froggy Borgert, NYG

League Records

NONE

Team Records

BOS - 17 Saves, Don Redcloud

CHA - 24 Homeruns, Leonard "Sunny" Davie

CIN - 31-Game Hitting Streak, Pee Wee Osborne

CLE - 35 Homeruns, Daniel Lutzke

DET - 13 Saves, Gerard Eichacker
DET - 178 K's (Pitcher), Bob Guilderson

NYA - 219 Hits, Clarence Davis
NYA - 14 Saves, Steve Minnie

PHI - 11 K's in One Game, Vance Marx

STL - 11 Rookie Homeruns, Joe Christie

WSH - 30 Homeruns, Carl "Dutch" Kahle

Milestones

3000 Hits - August Kahle, NYA
3000 Hits - David "Pops" McAuliffe, CHN
3000 Hits - Salvatore "The Sicilian Saucer" Rossi, PHA

2500 Hits - Quenton Misisca, DET

2000 Hits - Foglesong "Fuzz" Allen, NYG
2000 Hits - Carl "Dutch" Kahle, WSH
2000 Hits - Dud Dietzsch, BSN
2000 Hits - Mickey McWhorter, BKN

400 Homeruns - Oscar "The Kid" Vancini, BKN - He became the first player to ever achieve this lofty total, despite an off year to his standards, and finished the season with 425 and a legitimate shot at 500.

1714 RBI - Sam Kass, WSH and Quenton Misisca, DET - Both players passed Bull Zegri, who was first all-time in this category. At season's end, Kass was #1 with 1763 and Misisca had 1749.

600 Doubles - Troy Kinnear, PHI - He became the 5th player to achieve this mark. No one has ever reached 700.

1500 Walks - Sal Rossi, PHA and John Schmeider, BSN - They are just the 3rd and 4th players to ever reach this mark.

1700 Runs Scored - Kid Fite, PHI - He is just the 5th player to ever reach this mark.

300 Wins - Jethro "Dodge" Lee, WSH
300 Wins - Otto "Kaiser" Kahle, BSN

2500 Strikeouts - Jethro Lee, WSH - He is just the 2nd player to ever reach this mark and he is just 95 K's from moving into 1st place all-time.

2000 Strikeouts - Terry Schukraft, PHA

150 Saves - Dale Cisek, WSH - He is the first player to ever reach this mark.

Gold Gloves

1936 American League Winners

Pitcher: Art Booth, NYA - 2 straight!
Catcher: Scooter Midgett, WSH
First Base: Louis Kirkes, NYA
Second Base: Buford Holstead, PHA
Third Base: Stew Tremere, CLE
Shortstop: David Boyle, PHA
Leftfield: Howard Sheridan, BOS
Centerfield: Joe Campbell, CLE - 2 straight!
Rightfield: Art Brandstetter, PHA

1936 National League Winners

Pitcher: Remmy Paul, BKN
Catcher: Herman Dunkel, STL - 2 straight!
First Base: Carlos Hulse, NYG
Second Base: Brad Coffenberger, BKN - 2 straight!
Third Base: Dale Lamberty, NYG
Shortstop: Andy Martineau, NYG
Leftfield: Phil Starkey, STL - 2 straight!
Centerfield: Morton Chamblee, STL - 2 straight!
Rightfield: Rudy Young, PIT

Matt from TN · 07-17-2004, 02:31 PM

Franchise Histories

BLUE - Won World Series
GREEN - Won Pennant but No WS Played
BLACK - Won Pennant

Boston Red Sox - 1 Pennant, 1-0 in WS, Last Pennant (1918), Last WS Title (1918)
Most Wins 81 (1928), Most Losses 93 (1936)
Winning Seasons 8, Losing Seasons 28, .500 Seasons 4
Longest Winning Streak: 1 Season
Longest Losing Streak: 12 Seasons (1906-17)
1900-10: 2-8
1911-20: 2-7-1 - 1918
1921-30: 2-5-3
1931-40: 2-8
Last 10 Seasons 2-8
Last 5 Seasons 1-4

Chicago White Sox - 6 Pennants, 1-5 in WS, Last Pennant (1938), Last WS Title (1920)
Most Wins 102 (1920), Most Losses 91 (1910)
Winning Seasons 20, Losing Seasons 20
Longest Winning Streak: 9 Seasons (1913-21)
Longest Losing Streak: 9 Seasons (1904-12)
1900-10: 1-9 - 1903
1911-20: 8-2 - 1917, 1919, 1920
1921-30: 6-4 - 1930
1931-40: 5-5 - 1938
Last 10 Seasons 5-5
Last 5 Seasons 3-2

Cleveland Indians - 5 Pennants, 2-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1916), Last WS Title (1916)
Most Wins 107 (1910), Most Losses 100 (1931)
Winning Seasons 20, Losing Seasons 18, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 13 Seasons (1906-18)
Longest Losing Streak: 6 Seasons (1927-32)
1900-10: 6-4 - 1907, 1910
1911-20: 9-1 - 1914, 1915, 1916
1921-30: 2-8
1931-40: 3-5-2
Last 10 Seasons 3-5-2
Last 5 Seasons 1-3-1

Detroit Tigers - 1 Pennant, 1-0 in WS, Last Pennant (1928), Last WS Win (1928)
Most Wins 93 (1928), Most Losses 94 (1906, 1922, 1934)
Winning Seasons 16, Losing Seasons 24
Longest Winning Streak: 5 Seasons (1901-05)
Longest Losing Streak: 9 Seasons (1932-Present)
1900-10: 5-5
1911-20: 3-7
1921-30: 6-4 - 1928
1931-40: 1-9
Last 10 Seasons 1-9
Last 5 Seasons 0-5

New York Yankees - 14 Pennants, 8-6 in WS, Last Pennant (1940), Last WS Win (1940)
Most Wins 103 (1923), Most Losses 93 (1920)
Winning Seasons 25, Losing Seasons 14, .500 Seasons 1
Longest Winning Streak: 11 Seasons (1930-Present)
Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1915-21)
1900-10: 7-3 - 1905, 1908, 1909
1911-20: 3-7 - 1911, 1912
1921-30: 5-4-1 - 1923, 1927
1931-40: 10-0 - 1931, 1933, 1934, 1935, 1936, 1939, 1940
Last 10 Seasons 10-0
Last 5 Seasons 5-0

Philadelphia Athletics - 5 Pennants, 1-4 in WS, Last Pennant (1932), Last WS Title (1906)
Most Wins 98 (1929), Most Losses 97 (1917)
Winning Seasons 21, Losing Seasons 18, .500 Seasons 1
Longest Winning Streak: 9 Seasons (1925-33)
Longest Losing Streak: 10 Seasons (1912-21)
1900-10: 8-2 - 1906
1911-20: 1-9
1921-30: 8-2 - 1925, 1926, 1929
1931-40: 4-5-1 - 1932
Last 10 Seasons 4-5-1
Last 5 Seasons 1-3-1

St. Louis Browns - 4 Pennants, 1-0 in WS, Last Pennant (1922), Last WS Title (1922)
Most Wins 89 (1904), Most Losses 98 (1930)
Winning Seasons 15, Losing Seasons 23, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 2 Seasons (1901-02, 1918-19, 1921-22, 1938-39)
Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1910-16)
1900-10: 5-5 - 1901, 1902, 1904
1911-20: 2-7-1
1921-30: 4-6 - 1922
1931-40: 4-5-1
Last 10 Seasons 4-5-1
Last 5 Seasons 3-2

Washington Senators - 4 Pennants, 3-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1937), Last WS Title (1937)
Most Wins 89 (1939, 1940), Most Losses 88 (1907)
Winning Seasons 19, Losing Seasons 19, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 5 Seasons (1936-Present)
Longest Losing Streak: 6 Seasons (1927-32)
1900-10: 3-6-1
1911-20: 4-6 - 1913
1921-30: 5-5 - 1921, 1924
1931-40: 7-2-1 - 1937
Last 10 Seasons 7-2-1
Last 5 Seasons 5-0

Boston Bees - 4 Pennants, 2-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1931), Last WS Title (1931)
Most Wins 105 (1928), Most Losses 102 (1915)
Winning Seasons 17, Losing Seasons 22, .500 Seasons 1
Longest Winning Streak: 9 Seasons (1930-1938)
Longest Losing Streak: 14 Seasons (1914-27)
1900-10: 6-4 - 1904, 1910
1911-20: 1-9
1921-30: 2-8 - 1928
1931-40: 8-1-1 - 1931
Last 10 Seasons 8-1-1
Last 5 Seasons 3-1-1

Brooklyn Dodgers - 6 Pennants, 3-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1940), Last WS Title (1939)
Most Wins 92 (1938), Most Losses 94 (1927)
Winning Seasons 23, Losing Seasons 15, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 7 Seasons (1934-Present)
Longest Losing Streak: 4 Seasons (1903-06)
1900-10: 3-7
1911-20: 7-2-1 - 1919
1921-30: 7-3 - 1926
1931-40: 7-2-1 - 1934, 1935, 1939, 1940
Last 10 Seasons 7-2-1
Last 5 Seasons 5-0

Chicago Cubs - 6 Pennants, 3-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1938), Last WS Title (1938)
Most Wins 101 (1938), Most Losses 97 (1925)
Winning Seasons 27, Losing Seasons 13
Longest Winning Streak: 14 Seasons (1901-14)
Longest Losing Streak: 6 Seasons (1922-27)
1900-10: 10-0 - 1905
1911-20: 7-3 - 1913, 1917
1921-30: 3-7
1931-40: 7-3 - 1936, 1937, 1938
Last 10 Seasons 7-3
Last 5 Seasons 4-1

Cincinnati Reds - 1 Pennant, 0-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1920)
Most Wins 92 (1927), Most Losses 95 (1906)
Winning Seasons 20, Losing Seasons 20
Longest Winning Streak: 11 Seasons (1913-23)
Longest Losing Streak: 8 Seasons (1933-Present)
1900-10: 5-5
1911-20: 9-1 - 1920
1921-30: 4-6
1931-40: 2-8
Last 10 Seasons 2-8
Last 5 Seasons 0-5

New York Giants - 4 Pennants, 2-2 in WS, Last Pennant (1922), Last WS Title (1921)
Most Wins 90 (1922, 1923), Most Losses 97 (1929)
Winning Seasons 16, Losing Seasons 21, .500 Seasons 3
Longest Winning Streak: 6 Seasons (1918-23)
Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1908-14)
1900-10: 1-8-1 - 1907
1911-20: 5-5 - 1918
1921-30: 5-5 - 1921, 1922
1931-40: 5-3-2
Last 10 Seasons 5-3-2
Last 5 Seasons 2-2-1

Philadelphia Phillies - 9 Pennants, 6-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1933), Last WS Title (1932)
Most Wins 100 (1927), Most Losses 98 (1938)
Winning Seasons 20, Losing Seasons 18, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 12 Seasons (1924-1935)
Longest Losing Streak: 9 Seasons (1915-23)
1900-10: 7-2-1 - 1901, 1902, 1903
1911-20: 1-9
1921-30: 7-3 - 1925, 1927, 1929, 1930
1931-40: 5-4-1 - 1932, 1933
Last 10 Seasons 5-4-1
Last 5 Seasons 0-4-1

Pittsburgh Pirates - 4 Pennants, 1-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1912), Last WS Win (1909)
Most Wins 92 (1908), Most Losses 103 (1928)
Winning Seasons 11, Losing Seasons 28, .500 Seasons 1
Longest Winning Streak: 5 Seasons (1908-12)
Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1913-19, 1931-1937)
1900-10: 4-6 - 1908, 1909
1911-20: 2-8 - 1911, 1912
1921-30: 2-7-1
1931-40: 2-8
Last 10 Seasons 2-8
Last 5 Seasons 2-3

St. Louis Cardinals - 6 Pennants, 2-4 in WS, Last Pennant (1924), Last WS Win (1923)
Most Wins 103 (1915), Most Losses 99 (1936)
Winning Seasons 18, Losing Seasons 18, .500 Seasons 3
Longest Winning Streak: 5 Seasons (1914-18, 1921-25)
Longest Losing Streak: 10 Seasons (1930-39)
1900-10: 3-6-1 - 1906
1911-20: 6-2-2 - 1914, 1915, 1916
1921-30: 8-2 - 1923, 1924
1931-40: 1-9
Last 10 Seasons 1-9
Last 5 Seasons 1-4

Last Pennant:

1912 - PIT
1916 - CLE
1918 - BOS
1920 - CIN
1922 - SLA, NYG
1924 - STL
1928 - DET
1931 - BSN
1932 - PHA
1933 - PHI
1937 - WSH
1938 - CHA, CHN
1940 - NYA, BKN

Last World Series Championship:

NONE - CIN
1906 - PHA
1909 - PIT
1916 - CLE
1918 - BOS
1920 - CHA
1921 - NYG
1922 - SLA
1923 - STL
1928 - DET
1931 - BSN
1932 - PHI
1937 - WSH
1938 - CHN
1939 - BKN
1940 - NYA

Matt from TN · 07-17-2004, 02:33 PM

Some interesting notes:

With a 78-76 season, the Red Sox had only their 8th winning season in 40 years! They have never had 2 consecutive winning seasons!

With an impressive 2nd half, the Cardinals and manager Tim Lopresto snapped a 10-year losing streak.

metsgeek · 07-17-2004, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt from TN

With a 78-76 season, the Red Sox had only their 8th winning season in 40 years! They have never had 2 consecutive winning seasons!

That will change on my watch

Matt from TN · 07-17-2004, 03:40 PM

Well, I've tediously added up the records of all managers, so here you go, sorted by win total:

Code:

First	Last		W	L	%	Penn.	WS	Teams
Carl	Sweney		2864	2484	53.55%	10	4	NYA (1904-1926), BKN (1929-Present)
Ervin	Greiner		2261	1855	54.93%	11	6	STL (1911-1912), NYG (1913-1923), NYA (1927-Present)
George	Watson		2078	1995	51.02%	1	0	CIN (1901-1930)
Ben	Lafayette	1971	1991	49.75%	2	2	BKN (1912-1928), CLE (1929-1937)
Leonard	Walsh		1934	1874	50.79%	5	2	STL (1914-1938)
Tom	Loftus		1905	1861	50.58%	3	2	CHN (1901-1925)
Jim	Manning		1367	1474	48.12%	1	1	WSH (1901-1919)
Bill	Shettsline	1306	1269	50.72%	3	1	PHI (1901-1917)
Fred	Glass		1211	1085	52.74%	3	1	CHA (1919-1933)
Fabian	Allen		1146	857	57.21%	6	5	PHI (1925-1937)
Joseph	Maguire		1057	1056	50.02%	1	1	PHA (1901-1914)
Willie	Bevan		1039	1117	48.19%	0	0	CHN (1926-1935), DET (1937-Present)
Frank	Turner		1008	995	50.32%	2	1	WSH (1920-1932)
Whiskey	Allen		929	765	54.84%	4	0	PHA (1925-1935)
Charley	Horvath		889	917	49.22%	1	1	BOS (1918-1929)
Patsy	Donovan		888	917	49.20%	3	0	MIL (1901), SLA (1902-1911), NYG (1912)
Glenn	Rittmann	836	970	46.29%	0	0	PIT (1918-1924), SLA (1926-1930)
Joe	Ward		818	569	58.98%	5	2	CLE (1906-1917)
Ronald	Dzikiewicz	812	840	49.15%	0	0	DET (1911-1921)
George	Stallings	810	841	49.06%	0	0	DET (1901-1910), STL (1913)
Harry	Carter		804	891	47.43%	0	0	DET (1922-1926), PIT (1927-1932)
Lou	Mooney		799	741	51.88%	4	1	PIT (1908-1917)
Robert	Binchy		797	855	48.24%	0	0	CLE (1918-1928)
Mac	Stickles	779	734	51.49%	1	0	CHA (1909-1918)
Robbie	Acher		745	753	49.73%	1	1	SLA (1916-1925)
John	Honrath		741	799	48.12%	0	0	CIN (1931-Present)
Earl	Franks		724	774	48.33%	1	0	STL (1901-1910)
Ned	Hanlon		720	787	47.78%	0	0	BKN (1901-1910)
Fred	Smythe		711	941	43.04%	0	0	BOS (1912-1914), PHA (1915-1917), BSN (1918-1922)
Frank	Selee		682	661	50.78%	1	0	BSN (1901-1909)
Paul	McIlroy		665	567	53.98%	1	1	WSH (1933-Present)
Wiley	Bigger		643	729	46.87%	1	1	PIT (1903-1906), NYG (1907-1911)
Wesley	Hubbell		551	527	51.11%	1	0	CHA (1934-Present)
Clark	Griffith	548	641	46.09%	1	0	CHA (1901-1908)
Brant	McKim		513	565	47.59%	1	0	BSN (1923-1929)
Gunther	Williams	502	534	48.46%	0	0	PHA (1918-1924)
Blake	Smeeton		485	550	46.86%	0	0	BOS (1901-1907)
Clyde	Exall		478	446	51.73%	0	0	BSN (1935-Present)
HeinrichKahle		468	456	50.65%	1	0	DET (1927-1932)
Harry	Cohan		450	320	58.44%	3	1	CHN (1936-Present)
Michael	McAinsh		449	475	48.59%	0	0	NYG (1935-Present)
Dennis	Malinowski	430	341	55.77%	1	1	BSN (1930-1934)
Lou	Langley		388	382	50.39%	0	0	SLA (1936-Present)
Arthur	Bradley		374	508	42.40%	0	0	BSN (1916-1917), PHI (1918-1921)
Daniel	Kenny		368	402	47.79%	0	0	NYG (1930-1934)
Carl	Garvan		354	416	45.97%	0	0	NYG (1925-1929)
George	Davis		346	381	47.59%	0	0	NYG (1901-1905)
David	Cellini		335	435	43.51%	0	0	PIT (1933-1937)
Ozzy	Benning		327	443	42.47%	0	0	BOS (1934-1938)
John	Coble		297	319	48.21%	0	0	BOS (1930-1933)
Patrick	Wirtz		296	320	48.05%	0	0	PHA (1936-Present)
Warrin	Larkin		282	334	45.78%	0	0	BOS (1908-1911)
Pat	Folyard		272	344	44.16%	0	0	DET (1933-1936)
Chris	Jennings	267	349	43.34%	0	0	SLA (1912-1915)
Gary	McCarty		235	227	50.87%	0	0	PHI (1922-1924)
Bryan	Henderson	233	229	50.43%	1	1	BSN (1910-1912)
Eddie	Goresh		228	234	49.35%	0	0	PIT (1938-Present)
Art	Benning		222	240	48.05%	0	0	BOS (1915-1917)
David	Durso		220	242	47.62%	0	0	PIT (1907, 1925-1926)
Jeff	Kassaw		219	243	47.40%	0	0	SLA (1931-1933)
Dan	Twitty		219	243	47.40%	0	0	CLE (1938-Present)
Joe	Harris		207	212	49.40%	0	0	BL1 (1901-1902), NYA (1903)
Fred	Mitchell	197	265	42.64%	0	0	BSN (1913-1915)
Jimmy	McAleer		194	225	46.30%	0	0	CLE (1901-1903)
Tim	Lopresto	156	152	50.65%	0	0	STL (1939-Present)
Herman	Almejo		147	161	47.73%	0	0	CLE (1904-1905)
Paul	Gibson		144	164	46.75%	0	0	SLA (1934-1935)
Chip	Houk		143	165	46.43%	0	0	BOS (1939-Present)
Bop	Vacha		140	168	45.45%	0	0	PHI (1939-Present)
Fred	Clarke		132	147	47.31%	0	0	PIT (1901-1902)
George	Stallings	76	78	49.35%	0	0	BKN (1911)
Sal	Rossi		70	84	45.45%	0	0	PHA (1940-Present)
Joe	Schmitz		69	85	44.81%	0	0	NYG (1924)
Curt	Spruce		69	85	44.81%	0	0	NYG (1906)
Dummy	Netsky		56	98	36.36%	0	0	PHI (1938)

Matt from TN · 07-17-2004, 03:48 PM

Sorted by winning % for only guys over .500

Code:

First	Last		 W	 L	  %	Penn.	WS	Teams
Joe	Ward		 818	 569	58.98%	5	2	CLE (1906-1917)
Harry	Cohan		 450	 320	58.44%	3	1	CHN (1936-Present)
Fabian	Allen		1146	 857	57.21%	6	5	PHI (1925-1937)
Dennis	Malinowski	 430	 341	55.77%	1	1	BSN (1930-1934)
Ervin	Greiner		2261	1855	54.93%	11	6	STL (1911-1912), NYG (1913-1923), NYA (1927-Present)
Whiskey	Allen		 929	 765	54.84%	4	0	PHA (1925-1935)
Paul	McIlroy		 665	 567	53.98%	1	1	WSH (1933-Present)
Carl	Sweney		2864	2484	53.55%	10	4	NYA (1904-1926), BKN (1929-Present)
Fred	Glass		1211	1085	52.74%	3	1	CHA (1919-1933)
Lou	Mooney		 799	 741	51.88%	4	1	PIT (1908-1917)
Clyde	Exall		 478	 446	51.73%	0	0	BSN (1935-Present)
Mac	Stickles	 779	 734	51.49%	1	0	CHA (1909-1918)
Wesley	Hubbell		 551	 527	51.11%	1	0	CHA (1934-Present)
George	Watson		2078	1995	51.02%	1	0	CIN (1901-1930)
Gary	McCarty		 235	 227	50.87%	0	0	PHI (1922-1924)
Leonard	Walsh		1934	1874	50.79%	5	2	STL (1914-1938)
Frank	Selee		 682	 661	50.78%	1	0	BSN (1901-1909)
Bill	Shettsline	1306	1269	50.72%	3	1	PHI (1901-1917)
HeinrichKahle		 468	 456	50.65%	1	0	DET (1927-1932)
Tim	Lopresto	 156	 152	50.65%	0	0	STL (1939-Present)
Tom	Loftus		1905	1861	50.58%	3	2	CHN (1901-1925)
Bryan	Henderson	 233	 229	50.43%	1	1	BSN (1910-1912)
Lou	Langley		 388	 382	50.39%	0	0	SLA (1936-Present)
Frank	Turner		1008	 995	50.32%	2	1	WSH (1920-1932)
Joseph	Maguire		1057	1056	50.02%	1	1	PHA (1901-1914)

Matt from TN · 07-17-2004, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt from TN

Code:

First	Last		W	L	%	Penn.	WS	Teams
Carl	Sweney		2864	2484	53.55%	10	4	NYA (1904-1926), BKN (1929-Present)
Ervin	Greiner		2261	1855	54.93%	11	6	STL (1911-1912), NYG (1913-1923), NYA (1927-Present)

Kinda cool to see that the recent competition betw. the Yanks and Dodgers also include the 2 winningest managers in history... I knew Sweney was with the Yanks in their early heyday and is beloved in NY, but I didn't realize that he and Greiner were 1-2... incredible... Since Sweney came to Brooklyn, he has taken the team to 4 WS and all have been against the Yanks, wow.

Matt from TN · 07-17-2004, 04:41 PM

40 Years of Time Warp Baseball!!

Code:

Team-AL			Wins	Loss	%	Pennants	WS Titles
New York (A)		3377	2852	54.2%	14		8
Cleveland		3160	3070	50.7%	5		2
Philadelphia (A)	3137	3092	50.4%	5		1
Washington		3116	3114	50.0%	4		3
Chicago (A)		3115	3115	50.0%	7		1
Detroit			3027	3212	48.5%	1		1
St. Louis (A)		2982	3247	47.9%	4		1
Boston (A)		2940	3289	47.2%	1		1
					
Team-NL			Wins	Loss	%	Pennants	WS Titles
Philadelphia (N)	3224	3006	51.7%	10		7
Brooklyn		3207	3022	51.5%	6		3
Chicago (N)		3196	3034	51.3%	6		3
Cincinnati		3137	3092	50.4%	1		0
St. Louis (N)		3108	3122	49.9%	6		2
Boston (N)		3040	3189	48.8%	4		2
New York (N)		3021	3208	48.5%	4		2
Pittsburgh		2985	3244	47.9%	4		1

Look how much the Yankees have utterly dominated the AL... The teams in the middle - Indians, A's, Senators, White Sox - have each had their dominant parts of AL history, combined with low spots... The Browns, Tigers and Red Sox have not dominated ever.

The Cardinals slid down the list with a horrid 1930's decade... Meanwhile, the recent dominance of Brooklyn and Chicago has moved them up the list... They, along with the Phillies and Cardinals, have had the best stretches in NL history... The Braves improved from once being a laughing stock, while the Reds continue to be surprisingly consistent over time, despite being the only franchise to have never won a WS... The Giants and Pirates each had their day in the sun, but they have had many more lean years and it shows.

Big Six · 07-17-2004, 05:53 PM

Wow...after looking at the web pages, I noticed that my Uncle Em (Emil Pelto) has been traded TWICE already, and he's only 20!

The Athletics traded him to Cleveland (the team that was interested in signing the "real" Em Pelto) in 1939, and in 1940, the Indians traded him to the Phillies. I hope he likes Philadelphia.

Em did have a decent year at AAA, so perhaps he's about ready to make a splash at the major league level.

The Phillies seem to have pretty good players ahead of him, both at first and behind the plate, but they're both in their early 30s. The Phils also got another hotshot first base prospect from the Indians, a guy named Lonny Arendale. Arendale was the #7 overall pick in the 1939 draft, and he's a 4.5 star prospect, to Em's 3.0, but he's also 2 years older. Maybe the Phillies organization will have some patience with Em.

Thanks for a project that's lots of fun to follow!

Kaline · 07-17-2004, 09:21 PM

Lets be fair here, the Tigers were a good team at the leagues start, but ALWAYS finsihed second...couldn't they have just one year?

Matt from TN · 07-17-2004, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaline

Lets be fair here, the Tigers were a good team at the leagues start, but ALWAYS finsihed second...couldn't they have just one year?

True, and the Reds were in a similar boat... both had good early teams that never could win a pennant... both teams rebuilt & had competitive teams, and Detroit's did manage to win a WS... now they're both in dire straights again.

Matt from TN · 07-18-2004, 02:20 PM

Key Retirees:

Tyrell Chestnut, RF
Boston Red Sox 1922-40

Chestnut was beloved in Boston, where he played his entire 19-year career with the Red Sox despite never winning a pennant. He was the first great example of a player who could hit for power and steal bases, twice leading the AL in HR and once in SB. He was the 1922 ROY and went on to win 4 BOY's. He won 5 consecutive Gold Gloves from 1927-31 and added another in 1936. He had an incredible 1930 season when he set an AL record with 36 homeruns and a major league record with 155 RBI. His 36 HR has never been broken in the AL, but it has been tied once. His 155 RBI are still an AL record, although they were surpassed by 1 RBI in the NL. Chestnut retired with a .309 average, 2801 hits, 514 doubles (15th All-Time), 267 homeruns (7th All-Time), 1630 RBI (7th All-Time), 1720 runs scored (3rd All-Time), 1336 walks (10th All-Time) and 533 stolen bases (16th All-Time).

Roy "The Natural" Hobbs, CF
Boston Braves 1920-40

Roy Hobbs earned the nickname "The Natural" because he stepped on a major league field at age 18 and proved he was ready for The Show. He was a great player who helped propel the Braves to some of the best seasons in franchise history, including a record 105 wins in 1928. He went to two World Series, winning one. He retired with a .315 average, 2992 hits (16th All-Time), 442 doubles, 221 homeruns (18th All-Time), 1660 RBI (5th All-Time), 1585 runs scored (13th All-Time), 1209 walks (17th All-Time) and 206 steals.

Jon Minzey, CF
St. Louis Cardinals, 1920-29
Washington Senators 1929-34
Brooklyn Dodgers 1934-40
Cincinnati Reds 1940

Minzey was an unsung star and a winner wherever he went. He played multiple seasons for three teams. He was part of the Cardinals' last championships, winning two pennants and one World Series there. After being traded to Washington, he helped turn that team into a competitor. Then in Brooklyn, he was part of three pennant winners and took home his second World Championship. He won 4 straight Gold Gloves from 1930-33 and retired with a .316 average, 2988 hits (17th All-Time), 430 doubles, 1098 RBI, 1568 runs scored (14th All-Time), 710 walks and 364 stolen bases.

Troy Kinnear, 3B
Detroit Tigers 1921-37
Philadelphia Phillies 1937-40

Kinnear became Detroit's everyday third baseman in 1924, clubbing 14 homeruns. By 1927 when he led the AL with 22, he had become part of the most feared lineup in the AL. In 1928, he and the Tigers won their only World Series. In 1937, he was traded to the Phillies for their aging star pitcher Scott Fenner. In Philadelphia, he helped revive the team's sagging offense, providing an immediate boost by winning POTM in his first month there. He won 2 Gold Gloves and retired with a .272 average, 2412 hits, 602 doubles (5th All-Time), 332 homeruns (4th All-Time), 1595 RBI (11th All-Time), 1423 runs scored and 933 walks. At the time of his retirement, he was one of only 4 players to have reached the lofty plateau of 300 career homeruns.

Other Notable Retirees:

Adam Sommer, LF
Chicago White Sox 1924-40
St. Louis Browns 1940

.321, 1966 H, 321 2B, 83 HR, 893 RBI, 833 R
Sommer was never expected to become a regular player in the majors, but he worked very hard and at age 24, he became part of the White Sox lineup, hitting .330 with 82 RBI. The next year, he missed a lot of time due to injury, but he managed to hit an incredible .410 in 354 AB. He went on to post an exceptional career average of .321 and play in two World Series for Chicago.

Matt from TN · 07-18-2004, 02:34 PM

Retiring Ancestors:

Levi "Tyke" Walls, SS
Chicago Cubs 1921-30
Philadelphia A's 1930-31
New York Giants 1931-40
St. Louis Browns 1940

Tyke burst onto the scene as a 23-year-old in 1921, winning the ROY by hitting .334 with 81 RBI and 31 steals. Two years later, he set two still-standing major league records with a .445 average and 239 hits, winning NL BOY. He was traded to the A's in 1930 and to the Giants in 1931, but he never tased the postseason with any of his teams. Late in his career, he won two Gold Gloves, and he retired with a .337 average (17th All-Time), 3333 hits (4th All-Time), 367 doubles, 1193 RBI, 1625 runs scored (10th All-Time), 858 walks and 678 steals.

DamnYankees · 07-18-2004, 02:51 PM

Hey Matt,

This league you have created is simply amazing. I can't believe I actually remained interested after Whiskey Sr. retired, but I have. It's truly a testament to you abilities to bring the league to life through a forum, and through the participants who fill in bakcstories.

Now, enough praise, although all deserved. Are there any GM spots still available? I'd love to own a team in this league. I'll take any, but I would prefer the Phillies, A's, or White Sox.

Hopefully my grandpa will appear in 1941, right schedule, but hopefully not drafted in '42...

Carlton · 07-18-2004, 02:52 PM

Wow

McAuliffe hits 3000, the next day Salvatore hits 3000...that was pretty cool.

and 2nd on the all time walk list...after a 10 win increase...must have been the pasta

I am sure that Salvatore has many of the A's career records since Rabbi Baum was shipped out...

Matt from TN · 07-18-2004, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamnYankees

Are there any GM spots still available? I'd love to own a team in this league. I'll take any, but I would prefer the Phillies, A's, or White Sox.

Unfortunately no, but I'd be happy to make you #1 on the waiting list if you PM me your email address.

Matt from TN · 07-18-2004, 03:37 PM

FYI everyone, we're officially beginning the WWII era... they first players leave this season, although very few, but Pearl Harbor hits in December and next season will be greatly affected...

DamnYankees · 07-18-2004, 03:50 PM

Matt, do you want to know the actual dates our ancestors fought in the war? Like, my grandfather served from September '42 to March '43, before being sent home. His wife had a kid (my uncle) and he requested to be sent home to work for other war-related activities so he could be with his family. They let him go. He was a ship-builder fora year after that, before going back to being a butcher. So I don't see how he should miss service in baseball in 44 and 45. I guess it makes sense for all of us to tell our ancestors stories in the war.

Matt from TN · 07-18-2004, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamnYankees

Matt, do you want to know the actual dates our ancestors fought in the war? Like, my grandfather served from September '42 to March '43, before being sent home. His wife had a kid (my uncle) and he requested to be sent home to work for other war-related activities so he could be with his family. They let him go. He was a ship-builder fora year after that, before going back to being a butcher. So I don't see how he should miss service in baseball in 44 and 45. I guess it makes sense for all of us to tell our ancestors stories in the war.

Many people already have told great stories of their ancestors - check out this thread...

I assume you're talking about Morris Lutzke who joins the league in 1942? If so, I'll note the dates above & make sure that's when he serves, returning in '44.

07-17-2004, 02:33 PM	#1684
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	Some interesting notes: With a 78-76 season, the Red Sox had only their 8th winning season in 40 years! They have never had 2 consecutive winning seasons! With an impressive 2nd half, the Cardinals and manager Tim Lopresto snapped a 10-year losing streak. __________________ Set in Stone... Players Remain with Original Franchise

07-17-2004, 04:41 PM	#1689
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	40 Years of Time Warp Baseball!! Code: Team-AL Wins Loss % Pennants WS Titles New York (A) 3377 2852 54.2% 14 8 Cleveland 3160 3070 50.7% 5 2 Philadelphia (A) 3137 3092 50.4% 5 1 Washington 3116 3114 50.0% 4 3 Chicago (A) 3115 3115 50.0% 7 1 Detroit 3027 3212 48.5% 1 1 St. Louis (A) 2982 3247 47.9% 4 1 Boston (A) 2940 3289 47.2% 1 1 Team-NL Wins Loss % Pennants WS Titles Philadelphia (N) 3224 3006 51.7% 10 7 Brooklyn 3207 3022 51.5% 6 3 Chicago (N) 3196 3034 51.3% 6 3 Cincinnati 3137 3092 50.4% 1 0 St. Louis (N) 3108 3122 49.9% 6 2 Boston (N) 3040 3189 48.8% 4 2 New York (N) 3021 3208 48.5% 4 2 Pittsburgh 2985 3244 47.9% 4 1 Look how much the Yankees have utterly dominated the AL... The teams in the middle - Indians, A's, Senators, White Sox - have each had their dominant parts of AL history, combined with low spots... The Browns, Tigers and Red Sox have not dominated ever. The Cardinals slid down the list with a horrid 1930's decade... Meanwhile, the recent dominance of Brooklyn and Chicago has moved them up the list... They, along with the Phillies and Cardinals, have had the best stretches in NL history... The Braves improved from once being a laughing stock, while the Reds continue to be surprisingly consistent over time, despite being the only franchise to have never won a WS... The Giants and Pirates each had their day in the sun, but they have had many more lean years and it shows. __________________ Set in Stone... Players Remain with Original Franchise

07-17-2004, 05:53 PM	#1690
Big Six Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 3,145	Wow...after looking at the web pages, I noticed that my Uncle Em (Emil Pelto) has been traded TWICE already, and he's only 20! The Athletics traded him to Cleveland (the team that was interested in signing the "real" Em Pelto) in 1939, and in 1940, the Indians traded him to the Phillies. I hope he likes Philadelphia. Em did have a decent year at AAA, so perhaps he's about ready to make a splash at the major league level. The Phillies seem to have pretty good players ahead of him, both at first and behind the plate, but they're both in their early 30s. The Phils also got another hotshot first base prospect from the Indians, a guy named Lonny Arendale. Arendale was the #7 overall pick in the 1939 draft, and he's a 4.5 star prospect, to Em's 3.0, but he's also 2 years older. Maybe the Phillies organization will have some patience with Em. Thanks for a project that's lots of fun to follow! __________________ My dynasties: The Base Ball Life of Patrick O'Farrell: 2014 inductee, OOTP Dynasty Hall of Fame Kenilworth: A Town and its Team: fun with a fictional league Last edited by Big Six; 07-17-2004 at 05:56 PM.

07-18-2004, 02:52 PM	#1696
Carlton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,765	Wow McAuliffe hits 3000, the next day Salvatore hits 3000...that was pretty cool. and 2nd on the all time walk list...after a 10 win increase...must have been the pasta I am sure that Salvatore has many of the A's career records since Rabbi Baum was shipped out... __________________ "I am at that stage of my life where I keep myself out of arguments. I am 100% self sufficient spiritually, emotionally & financially. Even if you say 1+1=5, you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. Enjoy!"

07-18-2004, 03:37 PM	#1698
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	FYI everyone, we're officially beginning the WWII era... they first players leave this season, although very few, but Pearl Harbor hits in December and next season will be greatly affected... __________________ Set in Stone... Players Remain with Original Franchise

07-17-2004, 01:55 PM	#1681
rogmax11 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,320	What a disappointing finish to such a brilliant start! Looks like the wheels started coming off from September 1 and didnt really stop until cratering in the Series sweep. I thought that Dad was on his way to perhaps one of his greatest seasons, but this may have been the least convincing POY of his career. That end-of-season swoon, 3-7 with a no-decision and an ERA ballooning by over half a run per 9 innings indicates either the byproduct of over-use or the beginnings of the onset of career decline. Or, hopefully, just a glitch in the machinery caused by anxiety over the worsening world condition and worries about his 5-year old daughters future. Or perhaps, rumors began floating around the clubhouse of a potential ownership change, something murky and indistinct about something called The Ankhiel Group, and made even more unsettling due to the gathering darkness in Europe. Or, more likely, it was a couple of bad Nathans dogs.

07-17-2004, 02:12 PM	#1682
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	1940 Postseason World Series Champs - New York Yankees 14th AL Pennant, 8th WS Title NL Champs - Brooklyn Dodgers 6th NL Pennant AL BOY: Jessie "Bing" Holt, BOS, .338, 27 HR, 104 RBI NL BOY: Jeff Bundy, BKN, .294, 28 HR, 109 RBI AL POY: Bob Guilderson, DET, 26-11, 2.44 ERA, 150 BB, 178 K NL POY: Frank Smith, BKN, 23-13, 2.18 ERA, 47 BB, 190 K - His 7th POY and 4th in a row! AL ROY: Clay Pattishall, DET, 6-12, 4.92 ERA, 104 BB, 51 K NL ROY: Joe Christie, STL, .307, 11 HR, 48 RBI AL AVG: Clarence Davis, NYA, .388 NL AVG: "Fancy" Flip DeLeon, BKN, .327 AL HR: Daniel Lutzke, CLE, 35 NL HR: Oscar "The Kid" Vancini, BKN, 33 AL RBI: Carl "Dutch" Kahle, WSH, 106 NL RBI: Jeff Bundy, BKN, 109 AL SB: Joe Campbell, CLE, 66 NL SB: Jonny "Speedy" Perly, BKN, 78 AL ERA: Bob Guilderson, DET, 2.44 NL ERA: Frank Smith, BKN, 2.18 AL Wins: Bob Guilderson, DET, Lee Riley, NYA and Jethro Lee, WSH, 26 NL Wins: Brett Smith, STL, 24 AL K's: Jethro "Dodge" Lee, WSH, 215 NL K's: Frank Smith, BKN, 190 AL Saves: Don Redcloud, BOS, 17 NL Saves: Jake Cockman, STL, 10 Major League Records ML - 104 K's (Batter), Froggy Borgert, NYG League Records NONE Team Records BOS - 17 Saves, Don Redcloud CHA - 24 Homeruns, Leonard "Sunny" Davie CIN - 31-Game Hitting Streak, Pee Wee Osborne CLE - 35 Homeruns, Daniel Lutzke DET - 13 Saves, Gerard Eichacker DET - 178 K's (Pitcher), Bob Guilderson NYA - 219 Hits, Clarence Davis NYA - 14 Saves, Steve Minnie PHI - 11 K's in One Game, Vance Marx STL - 11 Rookie Homeruns, Joe Christie WSH - 30 Homeruns, Carl "Dutch" Kahle Milestones 3000 Hits - August Kahle, NYA 3000 Hits - David "Pops" McAuliffe, CHN 3000 Hits - Salvatore "The Sicilian Saucer" Rossi, PHA 2500 Hits - Quenton Misisca, DET 2000 Hits - Foglesong "Fuzz" Allen, NYG 2000 Hits - Carl "Dutch" Kahle, WSH 2000 Hits - Dud Dietzsch, BSN 2000 Hits - Mickey McWhorter, BKN 400 Homeruns - Oscar "The Kid" Vancini, BKN - He became the first player to ever achieve this lofty total, despite an off year to his standards, and finished the season with 425 and a legitimate shot at 500. 1714 RBI - Sam Kass, WSH and Quenton Misisca, DET - Both players passed Bull Zegri, who was first all-time in this category. At season's end, Kass was #1 with 1763 and Misisca had 1749. 600 Doubles - Troy Kinnear, PHI - He became the 5th player to achieve this mark. No one has ever reached 700. 1500 Walks - Sal Rossi, PHA and John Schmeider, BSN - They are just the 3rd and 4th players to ever reach this mark. 1700 Runs Scored - Kid Fite, PHI - He is just the 5th player to ever reach this mark. 300 Wins - Jethro "Dodge" Lee, WSH 300 Wins - Otto "Kaiser" Kahle, BSN 2500 Strikeouts - Jethro Lee, WSH - He is just the 2nd player to ever reach this mark and he is just 95 K's from moving into 1st place all-time. 2000 Strikeouts - Terry Schukraft, PHA 150 Saves - Dale Cisek, WSH - He is the first player to ever reach this mark. Gold Gloves 1936 American League Winners Pitcher: Art Booth, NYA - 2 straight! Catcher: Scooter Midgett, WSH First Base: Louis Kirkes, NYA Second Base: Buford Holstead, PHA Third Base: Stew Tremere, CLE Shortstop: David Boyle, PHA Leftfield: Howard Sheridan, BOS Centerfield: Joe Campbell, CLE - 2 straight! Rightfield: Art Brandstetter, PHA 1936 National League Winners Pitcher: Remmy Paul, BKN Catcher: Herman Dunkel, STL - 2 straight! First Base: Carlos Hulse, NYG Second Base: Brad Coffenberger, BKN - 2 straight! Third Base: Dale Lamberty, NYG Shortstop: Andy Martineau, NYG Leftfield: Phil Starkey, STL - 2 straight! Centerfield: Morton Chamblee, STL - 2 straight! Rightfield: Rudy Young, PIT

07-17-2004, 02:31 PM	#1683
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	Franchise Histories BLUE - Won World Series GREEN - Won Pennant but No WS Played BLACK - Won Pennant Boston Red Sox - 1 Pennant, 1-0 in WS, Last Pennant (1918), Last WS Title (1918) Most Wins 81 (1928), Most Losses 93 (1936) Winning Seasons 8, Losing Seasons 28, .500 Seasons 4 Longest Winning Streak: 1 Season Longest Losing Streak: 12 Seasons (1906-17) 1900-10: 2-8 1911-20: 2-7-1 - 1918 1921-30: 2-5-3 1931-40: 2-8 Last 10 Seasons 2-8 Last 5 Seasons 1-4 Chicago White Sox - 6 Pennants, 1-5 in WS, Last Pennant (1938), Last WS Title (1920) Most Wins 102 (1920), Most Losses 91 (1910) Winning Seasons 20, Losing Seasons 20 Longest Winning Streak: 9 Seasons (1913-21) Longest Losing Streak: 9 Seasons (1904-12) 1900-10: 1-9 - 1903 1911-20: 8-2 - 1917, 1919, 1920 1921-30: 6-4 - 1930 1931-40: 5-5 - 1938 Last 10 Seasons 5-5 Last 5 Seasons 3-2 Cleveland Indians - 5 Pennants, 2-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1916), Last WS Title (1916) Most Wins 107 (1910), Most Losses 100 (1931) Winning Seasons 20, Losing Seasons 18, .500 Seasons 2 Longest Winning Streak: 13 Seasons (1906-18) Longest Losing Streak: 6 Seasons (1927-32) 1900-10: 6-4 - 1907, 1910 1911-20: 9-1 - 1914, 1915, 1916 1921-30: 2-8 1931-40: 3-5-2 Last 10 Seasons 3-5-2 Last 5 Seasons 1-3-1 Detroit Tigers - 1 Pennant, 1-0 in WS, Last Pennant (1928), Last WS Win (1928) Most Wins 93 (1928), Most Losses 94 (1906, 1922, 1934) Winning Seasons 16, Losing Seasons 24 Longest Winning Streak: 5 Seasons (1901-05) Longest Losing Streak: 9 Seasons (1932-Present) 1900-10: 5-5 1911-20: 3-7 1921-30: 6-4 - 1928 1931-40: 1-9 Last 10 Seasons 1-9 Last 5 Seasons 0-5 New York Yankees - 14 Pennants, 8-6 in WS, Last Pennant (1940), Last WS Win (1940) Most Wins 103 (1923), Most Losses 93 (1920) Winning Seasons 25, Losing Seasons 14, .500 Seasons 1 Longest Winning Streak: 11 Seasons (1930-Present) Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1915-21) 1900-10: 7-3 - 1905, 1908, 1909 1911-20: 3-7 - 1911, 1912 1921-30: 5-4-1 - 1923, 1927 1931-40: 10-0 - 1931, 1933, 1934, 1935, 1936, 1939, 1940 Last 10 Seasons 10-0 Last 5 Seasons 5-0 Philadelphia Athletics - 5 Pennants, 1-4 in WS, Last Pennant (1932), Last WS Title (1906) Most Wins 98 (1929), Most Losses 97 (1917) Winning Seasons 21, Losing Seasons 18, .500 Seasons 1 Longest Winning Streak: 9 Seasons (1925-33) Longest Losing Streak: 10 Seasons (1912-21) 1900-10: 8-2 - 1906 1911-20: 1-9 1921-30: 8-2 - 1925, 1926, 1929 1931-40: 4-5-1 - 1932 Last 10 Seasons 4-5-1 Last 5 Seasons 1-3-1 St. Louis Browns - 4 Pennants, 1-0 in WS, Last Pennant (1922), Last WS Title (1922) Most Wins 89 (1904), Most Losses 98 (1930) Winning Seasons 15, Losing Seasons 23, .500 Seasons 2 Longest Winning Streak: 2 Seasons (1901-02, 1918-19, 1921-22, 1938-39) Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1910-16) 1900-10: 5-5 - 1901, 1902, 1904 1911-20: 2-7-1 1921-30: 4-6 - 1922 1931-40: 4-5-1 Last 10 Seasons 4-5-1 Last 5 Seasons 3-2 Washington Senators - 4 Pennants, 3-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1937), Last WS Title (1937) Most Wins 89 (1939, 1940), Most Losses 88 (1907) Winning Seasons 19, Losing Seasons 19, .500 Seasons 2 Longest Winning Streak: 5 Seasons (1936-Present) Longest Losing Streak: 6 Seasons (1927-32) 1900-10: 3-6-1 1911-20: 4-6 - 1913 1921-30: 5-5 - 1921, 1924 1931-40: 7-2-1 - 1937 Last 10 Seasons 7-2-1 Last 5 Seasons 5-0 Boston Bees - 4 Pennants, 2-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1931), Last WS Title (1931) Most Wins 105 (1928), Most Losses 102 (1915) Winning Seasons 17, Losing Seasons 22, .500 Seasons 1 Longest Winning Streak: 9 Seasons (1930-1938) Longest Losing Streak: 14 Seasons (1914-27) 1900-10: 6-4 - 1904, 1910 1911-20: 1-9 1921-30: 2-8 - 1928 1931-40: 8-1-1 - 1931 Last 10 Seasons 8-1-1 Last 5 Seasons 3-1-1 Brooklyn Dodgers - 6 Pennants, 3-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1940), Last WS Title (1939) Most Wins 92 (1938), Most Losses 94 (1927) Winning Seasons 23, Losing Seasons 15, .500 Seasons 2 Longest Winning Streak: 7 Seasons (1934-Present) Longest Losing Streak: 4 Seasons (1903-06) 1900-10: 3-7 1911-20: 7-2-1 - 1919 1921-30: 7-3 - 1926 1931-40: 7-2-1 - 1934, 1935, 1939, 1940 Last 10 Seasons 7-2-1 Last 5 Seasons 5-0 Chicago Cubs - 6 Pennants, 3-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1938), Last WS Title (1938) Most Wins 101 (1938), Most Losses 97 (1925) Winning Seasons 27, Losing Seasons 13 Longest Winning Streak: 14 Seasons (1901-14) Longest Losing Streak: 6 Seasons (1922-27) 1900-10: 10-0 - 1905 1911-20: 7-3 - 1913, 1917 1921-30: 3-7 1931-40: 7-3 - 1936, 1937, 1938 Last 10 Seasons 7-3 Last 5 Seasons 4-1 Cincinnati Reds - 1 Pennant, 0-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1920) Most Wins 92 (1927), Most Losses 95 (1906) Winning Seasons 20, Losing Seasons 20 Longest Winning Streak: 11 Seasons (1913-23) Longest Losing Streak: 8 Seasons (1933-Present) 1900-10: 5-5 1911-20: 9-1 - 1920 1921-30: 4-6 1931-40: 2-8 Last 10 Seasons 2-8 Last 5 Seasons 0-5 New York Giants - 4 Pennants, 2-2 in WS, Last Pennant (1922), Last WS Title (1921) Most Wins 90 (1922, 1923), Most Losses 97 (1929) Winning Seasons 16, Losing Seasons 21, .500 Seasons 3 Longest Winning Streak: 6 Seasons (1918-23) Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1908-14) 1900-10: 1-8-1 - 1907 1911-20: 5-5 - 1918 1921-30: 5-5 - 1921, 1922 1931-40: 5-3-2 Last 10 Seasons 5-3-2 Last 5 Seasons 2-2-1 Philadelphia Phillies - 9 Pennants, 6-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1933), Last WS Title (1932) Most Wins 100 (1927), Most Losses 98 (1938) Winning Seasons 20, Losing Seasons 18, .500 Seasons 2 Longest Winning Streak: 12 Seasons (1924-1935) Longest Losing Streak: 9 Seasons (1915-23) 1900-10: 7-2-1 - 1901, 1902, 1903 1911-20: 1-9 1921-30: 7-3 - 1925, 1927, 1929, 1930 1931-40: 5-4-1 - 1932, 1933 Last 10 Seasons 5-4-1 Last 5 Seasons 0-4-1 Pittsburgh Pirates - 4 Pennants, 1-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1912), Last WS Win (1909) Most Wins 92 (1908), Most Losses 103 (1928) Winning Seasons 11, Losing Seasons 28, .500 Seasons 1 Longest Winning Streak: 5 Seasons (1908-12) Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1913-19, 1931-1937) 1900-10: 4-6 - 1908, 1909 1911-20: 2-8 - 1911, 1912 1921-30: 2-7-1 1931-40: 2-8 Last 10 Seasons 2-8 Last 5 Seasons 2-3 St. Louis Cardinals - 6 Pennants, 2-4 in WS, Last Pennant (1924), Last WS Win (1923) Most Wins 103 (1915), Most Losses 99 (1936) Winning Seasons 18, Losing Seasons 18, .500 Seasons 3 Longest Winning Streak: 5 Seasons (1914-18, 1921-25) Longest Losing Streak: 10 Seasons (1930-39) 1900-10: 3-6-1 - 1906 1911-20: 6-2-2 - 1914, 1915, 1916 1921-30: 8-2 - 1923, 1924 1931-40: 1-9 Last 10 Seasons 1-9 Last 5 Seasons 1-4 Last Pennant: 1912 - PIT 1916 - CLE 1918 - BOS 1920 - CIN 1922 - SLA, NYG 1924 - STL 1928 - DET 1931 - BSN 1932 - PHA 1933 - PHI 1937 - WSH 1938 - CHA, CHN 1940 - NYA, BKN Last World Series Championship: NONE - CIN 1906 - PHA 1909 - PIT 1916 - CLE 1918 - BOS 1920 - CHA 1921 - NYG 1922 - SLA 1923 - STL 1928 - DET 1931 - BSN 1932 - PHI 1937 - WSH 1938 - CHN 1939 - BKN 1940 - NYA

07-17-2004, 09:21 PM	#1691
Kaline Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 321	Lets be fair here, the Tigers were a good team at the leagues start, but ALWAYS finsihed second...couldn't they have just one year?

07-18-2004, 02:20 PM	#1693
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	Key Retirees: Tyrell Chestnut, RF Boston Red Sox 1922-40 Chestnut was beloved in Boston, where he played his entire 19-year career with the Red Sox despite never winning a pennant. He was the first great example of a player who could hit for power and steal bases, twice leading the AL in HR and once in SB. He was the 1922 ROY and went on to win 4 BOY's. He won 5 consecutive Gold Gloves from 1927-31 and added another in 1936. He had an incredible 1930 season when he set an AL record with 36 homeruns and a major league record with 155 RBI. His 36 HR has never been broken in the AL, but it has been tied once. His 155 RBI are still an AL record, although they were surpassed by 1 RBI in the NL. Chestnut retired with a .309 average, 2801 hits, 514 doubles (15th All-Time), 267 homeruns (7th All-Time), 1630 RBI (7th All-Time), 1720 runs scored (3rd All-Time), 1336 walks (10th All-Time) and 533 stolen bases (16th All-Time). Roy "The Natural" Hobbs, CF Boston Braves 1920-40 Roy Hobbs earned the nickname "The Natural" because he stepped on a major league field at age 18 and proved he was ready for The Show. He was a great player who helped propel the Braves to some of the best seasons in franchise history, including a record 105 wins in 1928. He went to two World Series, winning one. He retired with a .315 average, 2992 hits (16th All-Time), 442 doubles, 221 homeruns (18th All-Time), 1660 RBI (5th All-Time), 1585 runs scored (13th All-Time), 1209 walks (17th All-Time) and 206 steals. Jon Minzey, CF St. Louis Cardinals, 1920-29 Washington Senators 1929-34 Brooklyn Dodgers 1934-40 Cincinnati Reds 1940 Minzey was an unsung star and a winner wherever he went. He played multiple seasons for three teams. He was part of the Cardinals' last championships, winning two pennants and one World Series there. After being traded to Washington, he helped turn that team into a competitor. Then in Brooklyn, he was part of three pennant winners and took home his second World Championship. He won 4 straight Gold Gloves from 1930-33 and retired with a .316 average, 2988 hits (17th All-Time), 430 doubles, 1098 RBI, 1568 runs scored (14th All-Time), 710 walks and 364 stolen bases. Troy Kinnear, 3B Detroit Tigers 1921-37 Philadelphia Phillies 1937-40 Kinnear became Detroit's everyday third baseman in 1924, clubbing 14 homeruns. By 1927 when he led the AL with 22, he had become part of the most feared lineup in the AL. In 1928, he and the Tigers won their only World Series. In 1937, he was traded to the Phillies for their aging star pitcher Scott Fenner. In Philadelphia, he helped revive the team's sagging offense, providing an immediate boost by winning POTM in his first month there. He won 2 Gold Gloves and retired with a .272 average, 2412 hits, 602 doubles (5th All-Time), 332 homeruns (4th All-Time), 1595 RBI (11th All-Time), 1423 runs scored and 933 walks. At the time of his retirement, he was one of only 4 players to have reached the lofty plateau of 300 career homeruns. Other Notable Retirees: Adam Sommer, LF Chicago White Sox 1924-40 St. Louis Browns 1940 .321, 1966 H, 321 2B, 83 HR, 893 RBI, 833 R Sommer was never expected to become a regular player in the majors, but he worked very hard and at age 24, he became part of the White Sox lineup, hitting .330 with 82 RBI. The next year, he missed a lot of time due to injury, but he managed to hit an incredible .410 in 354 AB. He went on to post an exceptional career average of .321 and play in two World Series for Chicago.

07-18-2004, 02:34 PM	#1694
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	Retiring Ancestors: Levi "Tyke" Walls, SS Chicago Cubs 1921-30 Philadelphia A's 1930-31 New York Giants 1931-40 St. Louis Browns 1940 Tyke burst onto the scene as a 23-year-old in 1921, winning the ROY by hitting .334 with 81 RBI and 31 steals. Two years later, he set two still-standing major league records with a .445 average and 239 hits, winning NL BOY. He was traded to the A's in 1930 and to the Giants in 1931, but he never tased the postseason with any of his teams. Late in his career, he won two Gold Gloves, and he retired with a .337 average (17th All-Time), 3333 hits (4th All-Time), 367 doubles, 1193 RBI, 1625 runs scored (10th All-Time), 858 walks and 678 steals.

07-18-2004, 02:51 PM	#1695
DamnYankees All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,644	Hey Matt, This league you have created is simply amazing. I can't believe I actually remained interested after Whiskey Sr. retired, but I have. It's truly a testament to you abilities to bring the league to life through a forum, and through the participants who fill in bakcstories. Now, enough praise, although all deserved. Are there any GM spots still available? I'd love to own a team in this league. I'll take any, but I would prefer the Phillies, A's, or White Sox. Hopefully my grandpa will appear in 1941, right schedule, but hopefully not drafted in '42...

07-18-2004, 03:50 PM	#1699
DamnYankees All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,644	Matt, do you want to know the actual dates our ancestors fought in the war? Like, my grandfather served from September '42 to March '43, before being sent home. His wife had a kid (my uncle) and he requested to be sent home to work for other war-related activities so he could be with his family. They let him go. He was a ship-builder fora year after that, before going back to being a butcher. So I don't see how he should miss service in baseball in 44 and 45. I guess it makes sense for all of us to tell our ancestors stories in the war.