2006 Oakland A's Thread - Page 85

Green & Gold Heart · 07-26-2006, 03:16 PM

Windsor down, Keisler up. So I bet this means Saarloos is going back to the rotation.

mikev · 07-26-2006, 04:19 PM

Why even bother calling Windsor up for 2 starts.

Keisler is terrible, what does Casilla have to do to get a shot?

mikev · 07-26-2006, 04:58 PM

This just in: Frank Thomas might be a pretty good ballplayer.

Green & Gold Heart · 07-26-2006, 05:06 PM

No kidding. So what if he can't run? As long as he can jack it out of the park it doesn't matter. He gets

today!

JDOldSchool · 07-26-2006, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Green & Gold Heart

So I bet this means Saarloos is going back to the rotation.

I'd rather see Halsey get that spot.

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Originally Posted by mikev

Why even bother calling Windsor up for 2 starts.

Keisler is terrible, what does Casilla have to do to get a shot?

Windsor looked like he may have been ready, but he's not. It was a good move to give him a look-see. I wonder if Keisler is up because Halsey is the guy who gets the starts. Replace one lefty in the bullpen with another.

mikev · 07-26-2006, 10:30 PM

One of the (reasonably credible) posters at the ESPN.com A's board said that Komine is going to get Sunday's start v. Halladay.

Good luck, kid..

BadluckinOOTP · 07-26-2006, 10:31 PM

why won't they start Gaudin??!?!?!?!?!??!?!

Green & Gold Heart · 07-27-2006, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mikev

One of the (reasonably credible) posters at the ESPN.com A's board said that Komine is going to get Sunday's start v. Halladay.

Good luck, kid..

Confirmed by this article.

mikev · 07-27-2006, 01:41 PM

5'8, 160, and throws 95?

Yipes. I can feel his oblique tearing from here.

BadluckinOOTP · 07-27-2006, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mikev

5'8, 160, and throws 95?

Yipes. I can feel his oblique tearing from here.

Hmm? There's no way he throws that hard.

JDOldSchool · 07-28-2006, 08:00 PM

Can anybody tell me why the A's aren't going after Julio Lugo? Off-the-field transgressions aside, he would immediately make the A's middle infield major league quality at the plate and he's a good defensive player, too.

His EIGHTY-FOUR point EQA advantage on Ellis is staggering. He has 73 points on Crosby. I don't know if I'd include Crosby in the deal, but Ellis is gone yesterday if Lugo was coming in return.

mikev · 07-29-2006, 01:11 AM

Dear Macha:

Just when I thought that you couldn't get any dumber, you go ahead and prove me wrong.

I'm curious, in the 8th inning with the bases loaded and only 1 out, down by 1, and the absolutely dominant lefty BJ Ryan pitching...

WHY IN THE EVERLOVING HELL would you let Mark ".231/.349/.327/.676 OPS vs. Lefties" Ellis meekly ground into an inning ending double play while Bobby ".304/.342/.551/.893 OPS vs Lefties" Kielty sits and rots on the bench?

Your stupid knows no bounds.

JDOldSchool · 07-29-2006, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mikev

Dear Macha:

Just when I thought that you couldn't get any dumber, you go ahead and prove me wrong.

I'm curious, in the 8th inning with the bases loaded and only 1 out, down by 1, and the absolutely dominant lefty BJ Ryan pitching...

WHY IN THE EVERLOVING HELL would you let Mark ".231/.349/.327/.676 OPS vs. Lefties" Ellis meekly ground into an inning ending double play while Bobby ".304/.342/.551/.893 OPS vs Lefties" Kielty sits and rots on the bench?

Your stupid knows no bounds.

A) Ellis has a higher OBP than Kielty vs. LHP. All he needed to do was get on base and the game is tied.

B) Ellis, not Macha, is the one who swung at a 2-0 pitch when the pitcher couldn't find the plate.

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Originally Posted by mikev

5'8, 160, and throws 95?

Yipes. I can feel his oblique tearing from here.

He only throws 88-91. He's also listed at 5'9" 175. Pedro Martinez is just 5'11" 180. I'm not sure how pitch velocity and height/weight correlate to oblique strains.

mikev · 07-29-2006, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JDOldSchool

A) Ellis has a higher OBP than Kielty vs. LHP. All he needed to do was get on base and the game is tied.

His OBP is .007 higher.

Are you honestly saying that you would trade .070 points of average, and over .200 OPS and SLG% to have a .007 better chance of getting on base?

Here's Mark's "clutch" stats:
w/ RISP 2 Outs - 3-21, .143/.308/.593
w/ RISP Overall - 11-57, .193/.284/.652
"Close and Late" - 5-38, .132/.154/.312

Here's Kielty:
w/ RISP 2 Outs - 7-19, .368/.400/.632
w/ RISP Overall - 15-41, .366/.409/.683
"Close and Late" - 10-30, .333/.412/.367

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Originally Posted by JDOldSchool

B) Ellis, not Macha, is the one who swung at a 2-0 pitch when the pitcher couldn't find the plate.

Yeah, but there was a better option on the Bench. Ellis is not very good against lefties, and Kielty is a very good hitter against them. It's really that simple. Both Scutaro and Perez were on the bench to come in the 9th for defense, so it's not like there was nobody left and Ellis *had* to bat.

magnet · 07-29-2006, 01:31 PM

Bobby Kielty is better than someone? Why couldn't that happen when he was with the Twins?

JDOldSchool · 07-30-2006, 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikev

Are you honestly saying that you would trade .070 points of average, and over .200 OPS and SLG% to have a .007 better chance of getting on base?

When the absolute ONLY thing that mattered in that situation was getting on base, yes, I would trade EVERYTHING for the guy who gets on base more.

Faroo6 · 07-30-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JDOldSchool

When the absolute ONLY thing that mattered in that situation was getting on base, yes, I would trade EVERYTHING for the guy who gets on base more.

But reallly, for .007?

BadluckinOOTP · 07-30-2006, 07:24 PM

MILTON BRADLEY

JDOldSchool · 07-30-2006, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Faroo6

But reallly, for .007?

Yes. In this particular situation, yes. When all that would've extended the game was getting on base, I have no concern with any other aspect of each player's ability. And regardless, the choice is so close that I don't think Macha is to blame.

And yay for Milton Bradley. Big, big win today. Too bad Komine didn't get his first major league victory though.

JDOldSchool · 07-31-2006, 11:22 PM

Swisher may not be hitting since getting sick and dropping all that weight, but the double play he just made was unbelievable.

07-26-2006, 04:19 PM	#1682
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	Why even bother calling Windsor up for 2 starts. Keisler is terrible, what does Casilla have to do to get a shot? __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

07-26-2006, 04:58 PM	#1683
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	This just in: Frank Thomas might be a pretty good ballplayer. __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

07-26-2006, 10:30 PM	#1686
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	One of the (reasonably credible) posters at the ESPN.com A's board said that Komine is going to get Sunday's start v. Halladay. Good luck, kid.. __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

07-26-2006, 10:31 PM	#1687
BadluckinOOTP All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: OKC Posts: 1,534	why won't they start Gaudin??!?!?!?!?!??!?! __________________

07-27-2006, 01:41 PM	#1689
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	5'8, 160, and throws 95? Yipes. I can feel his oblique tearing from here. __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

07-26-2006, 03:16 PM	#1681
Green & Gold Heart Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5,242	Windsor down, Keisler up. So I bet this means Saarloos is going back to the rotation.

07-26-2006, 05:06 PM	#1684
Green & Gold Heart Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5,242	No kidding. So what if he can't run? As long as he can jack it out of the park it doesn't matter. He gets today!

07-28-2006, 08:00 PM	#1691
JDOldSchool Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,023	Can anybody tell me why the A's aren't going after Julio Lugo? Off-the-field transgressions aside, he would immediately make the A's middle infield major league quality at the plate and he's a good defensive player, too. His EIGHTY-FOUR point EQA advantage on Ellis is staggering. He has 73 points on Crosby. I don't know if I'd include Crosby in the deal, but Ellis is gone yesterday if Lugo was coming in return.

07-29-2006, 01:11 AM	#1692
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	Dear Macha: Just when I thought that you couldn't get any dumber, you go ahead and prove me wrong. I'm curious, in the 8th inning with the bases loaded and only 1 out, down by 1, and the absolutely dominant lefty BJ Ryan pitching... WHY IN THE EVERLOVING HELL would you let Mark ".231/.349/.327/.676 OPS vs. Lefties" Ellis meekly ground into an inning ending double play while Bobby ".304/.342/.551/.893 OPS vs Lefties" Kielty sits and rots on the bench? Your stupid knows no bounds. __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

07-29-2006, 01:31 PM	#1695
magnet Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,029	Bobby Kielty is better than someone? Why couldn't that happen when he was with the Twins?

07-30-2006, 07:24 PM	#1698
BadluckinOOTP All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: OKC Posts: 1,534	MILTON BRADLEY __________________

07-31-2006, 11:22 PM	#1700
JDOldSchool Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,023	Swisher may not be hitting since getting sick and dropping all that weight, but the double play he just made was unbelievable.