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Old 07-15-2004, 10:22 PM   #1661
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Nice to check in and find Pops a "Triple Crown" candidate, still roaring along with his beloved Dodgers. I haven't the time to check back, but has anyone lead their league in the "big three" pitching categories thus far in TWB? If Frank makes it, I do believe we might have a 7th POY on our hands.
We definitely have never had a hitter's triple crown, and I'm about 95% sure we've never had a pitcher's TC either. I'll have to check.
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Old 07-15-2004, 10:44 PM   #1662
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1940 All-Star Game
Sportsman's Park, St. Louis

BOX SCORE

Frank Smith and Jethro Lee, two of the best pitchers of this era, each threw 3 perfect innings to start this game. In the top of the 5th, pinch hitter Al Arsenault hit a 3-run homerun off Abraham Dickens to give the AL a 3-0 lead. A Dale Lamberty RBI double made the score 3-1 in the bottom of that inning, and the NL tied the game at 3-3 in the 6th with two singles, a double, a walk, a sac bunt and an RBI ground out.

In the top of the 8th, reliever Jesse Janetzky allowed 4 runs on 3 walks, 2 singles and a wild pitch. Dave Arkless led off the bottom of the 9th with a triple and later scored on an error, but that was all the NL could muster in yet another all-star game loss.

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            1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9    R  H E 
AL Allstars 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 4 0    7  8 2 
NL Allstars 0 0 0 0 1 2 0 0 1    4  8 0
American League Starters:
C Leonard Davie, White Sox*
1B Jessie Holt, Red Sox
2B Pokey Dorsey, Red Sox
3B Carl Kahle, Senators*
SS Blake Crocitto, Senators*
LF Wolter Tjeenk-Willink, Senators*
CF Bill Berry, Indians*
RF Jimmy Ditty, Yankees*
SP Jethro Lee, Senators

Reserves:
SP Luke Riley, Yankees
SP Bob Guilderson, Tigers
SP Art Booth, Yankees
SP Stuffy Zinn, White Sox
SP George Bowers, Indians*
SP Chris Frays, Senators
RP Wayne Exton, A's
RP Larry Glancy, White Sox
RP Steve Minnie, Yankees
C Gord Gentry, A's
1B Daniel Lutzke, Indians
2B Ray Dimeo, Tigers
SS Clarence Davis, Yankees
LF Lou Zaitz, Indians
LF Al Arsenault, Red Sox*
RF Art Brandstetter, A's

National League Starters:
C Carmack Alford, Reds*
1B Hank Faver, Reds
2B David Hunter, Bees*
3B Dale Lamberty, Giants
SS Eric Teeuw, Bees
LF Oscar Vancini, Dodgers
CF Dave Arkless, Cusb
RF Dewey Mickelsen, Cubs*
SP Frank Smith, Dodgers*

Reserves:
SP Punchy Cote, Cubs
SP Gerald Saxton, Cardinals
SP Otto Kahle, Bees*
SP Clint Rohm, Giants
SP Abraham Dickens, Cardinals
SP Alex Winterhalter, Cubs
RP Len Tye, Reds
RP Bob Boshernitsan, Giants
RP Jesse Janetzky, Bees
C Dud Dietzsch, Bees
C Benny Eremitani, Reds
1B Jeff Bundy, Dodgers
3B Flip DeLeon, Dodgers
SS Tim Frevele, Reds
CF Bud Breckenridge, Pirates
RF George Ward, Bees*

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Old 07-15-2004, 10:50 PM   #1663
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Not to worry, NL fans: we'll get 'em in the Series!
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Old 07-15-2004, 11:02 PM   #1664
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Yeah.. William Skjerly has lost A LOT of talent. He'll never see the majors again unless he improves. Too bad.


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7.46 in 19 MLB starts in his *career*. OUCH!

He is currently in AA, after starting in AAA this year. His talents were actually the same at the start of the season, he's just lost it now. I think he's more worried about what's going on in the world. He will definitely fight in the upcoming war, and die a great death killing an impressive 500 people!!!!
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Old 07-15-2004, 11:13 PM   #1665
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Frank Smith with a 1.77 ERA...thats just sick.

But what is wrong with the Brooklyn front office? How many years have they gone without adding solid depth behind the two best players active? They need some supporting cast with them....

Its sad really.... such wasted potential.
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Old 07-15-2004, 11:37 PM   #1666
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AHEM, asterisk for Mr. Ward please.
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Old 07-16-2004, 02:16 PM   #1667
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... Goose - the Conspiracy Against The Class of 1934 continues ...
Stange indeed.

Willie is so depressed, he's been seen talking to a Navy recruiter.
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Old 07-16-2004, 02:23 PM   #1668
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Dang still 12 away...looks like age is catchin up to Bourbon, any talent hits yet Matt
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Old 07-16-2004, 02:25 PM   #1669
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Just saw where his control took hit in ST, and his movement rating (not good news) is down to 4!!!!
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Old 07-16-2004, 02:32 PM   #1670
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Al is definately having a hell of a year

and Jeronimo isnt doing too bad either...

hopefully, they'll shine when WWII start
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Al is definately having a hell of a year and Jeronimo isnt doing too bad either...

hopefully, they'll shine when WWII start
They're still commie pinkos.
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They're still commie pinkos.
you dont enter the HOF for winning the war :P
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Old 07-16-2004, 05:07 PM   #1673
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Matt wrote:

> We definitely have never had a hitter's triple crown,

Woody led the league once in RBI and once in HR... and they came in different seasons. Rabbi Baum lead the league in BA and HR in 1924... but that wasn't his RBI season - he'd take that crown in 1926, along with the 1925 BA Title and 1928 RBI crown. The ones time Ditty led the league in RBI (1922), he also won his 3rd (of five) HR titles and was second in the league in BA.

I'm sure I'm overlooking someone else...


> and I'm about 95% sure we've never had a pitcher's
> TC either. I'll have to check.

The Usual Suspect for all things pitching:

Andrew Murphy:

1913
ERA - 1.63 - 1st
Wins - 28 - 1st
K's - 184 - 1st

1919
ERA - 1.31 - 1st
Wins - 30 - 1st
K's - 171 - 1st

He was 1-1-2 in 1916 and 1920, and 1-2-1 in 1915 and 1921.

Jethro Lee is the obvious one to look at given all his K's.

Jethro Lee

1931
ERA - 2.14 - 1st
Wins - 27 - 1st
K's - 169 - 1st

1936
ERA - 2.62 - 1st
Wins - 26 - 1st
K's - 205 - 1st

Six ERA Titles and 10 K Titles... and those are his only two Win Titles. He's been 2nd in it four times and has a trio of 3rds, so he's been in the running several times.

Cecil Tan had a 1-2-1 year (winning 31 games yet still a runner-up) and a 2-1-1 season.

Wickersham was 2nd in Wins in 1934 while winning the other titles.

The biggest kick in the pants is that the Nolan Ryan of TWB never lead the league in K's. What was I saying about him being overrated?

There may be some others. I took a look at *most* of the Top 25 in Wins, and *eyeballed* the names on K's list to see if anyone jumped out at me as worth looking at. Hardly exhaustive, but didn't want to bog down on it too much.


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you dont enter the HOF for winning the war :P
You do taint public opinion by not volunteering when other Canadians are the first to go
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hopefully, they'll shine when WWII start
And blatantly rooting for weaker opponents certainly won't help their cause. Their stats may require an asterisk next to them
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There may be some others. I took a look at *most* of the Top 25 in Wins, and *eyeballed* the names on K's list to see if anyone jumped out at me as worth looking at. Hardly exhaustive, but didn't want to bog down on it too much.
I should've known Murphy did it... I didn't know, but I'm not surprised, that Jethro did it... Thanks for looking that up...


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August 1940

The Yankees continued to play mediocre ball, going 15-14 this month. Washington went 18-11 and gained 3 games in the standings. Unfortunately, pitcher Bill Finley was lost for the rest of the regular season with a pulled muscle in his throwing arm. Outfielder Wolter Tjeenk-Willink may also miss the rest of the regular season with a foot injury. Boston went 17-12 and moved into a tie for 3rd. This should be the first time in 6 years that they finished higher than 7th.

Brooklyn went 16-12 and pulled into first place. However, they lost two pitchers to injury. Remmy Paul will miss another 3 weeks with an arm strain, and Dazzy Pope is out for the rest of the season with an elbow fracture. The Cubs went 14-16 and fell 2 games back of the Dodgers. Chicago also lost outfielder Dewey Mickelsen until mid-September with a knee fracture. The Cardinals are making a late push by going 20-9 in August, which leaves them just 7 games back. Cincinnati second baseman Pee Wee Osborne put together a 31-game hit streak, which was the longest in team history and just 7 games short of setting a new major league record.

American League-Pitcher of the Month:
William O'Neill (CLE)!
He had a record of 5-1 in 6 games started, with an ERA of 2.04 and 1 shutouts.

American League-Batter of the Month:
Howard Sheridan (BOS)!
He batted .388 in 103 AB, with 9 homers and 26 RBI.

National League-Pitcher of the Month:
Anthony "Punchy" Cote (CHN)!
He had a record of 5-2 in 7 games started, with an ERA of 1.71 and 2 shutouts.

National League-Batter of the Month:
Jonny Perly (BKN)!
He batted .431 in 102 AB, with 6 homers and 21 RBI.


Code:
American League Standings 
  
New York (A)     76 49 .608 -
Washington       73 53 .579 3.5
Boston (A)       61 61 .512 12.0
Cleveland        61 61 .512 12.0
Chicago (A)      60 68 .469 17.5 
St. Louis (A)    58 67 .464 18.0
Detroit          55 71 .437 21.5
Philadelphia (A) 53 73 .421 23.5
 
National League Standings 
 
Brooklyn         73 51 .589 -
Chicago (N)      71 53 .573 2.0
St. Louis (N)    68 60 .531 7.0
Philadelphia (N) 61 64 .488 12.5
New York (N)     61 65 .484 13.0
Boston (N)       58 66 .468 15.0 
Pittsburgh       55 71 .437 19.0
Cincinnati       55 72 .433 19.5

AL AVG
.379 Clarence Davis, Yankees
.369 Blake Crocitto, Senators
.353 Wolter Tjeenk-Willink, Senators

NL AVG
.336 Eric Teeuw, Pirates
.323 Flip DeLeon, Dodgers
.323 Genarito Nunez, Cardinals

AL HOMERUNS
30 Daniel Lutzke, Indians
28 Quenton Misisca, Tigers
24 Jimmy Ditty, Yankees

NL HOMERUNS
31 Oscar Vancini, Dodgers
25 Dale Lamberty, Giants
25 Froggy Borgert, Giants

AL RBI
91 Quenton Misisca, Tigers
87 Daniel Lutzke, Indians
87 Wolter Tjeenk-Willink, Senators

NL RBI
89 Jeff Bundy, Dodgers
85 Oscar Vancini, Dodgers
81 Froggy Borgert, Giants

AL STEALS
54 Joe Campbell, Indians
40 Buford Holstead, A's
38 Ricardo Bowden, Red Sox

NL STEALS
65 Jonny Perly, Dodgers
57 Foglesong Allen, Giants
42 David Hunter, Bees

AL ERA
2.21 Bob Guilderson, Tigers
2.54 Jethro Lee, Senators
2.56 Hale Scheepers, Yankees

NL ERA
1.84 Frank Smith, Dodgers
2.86 Otto Kahle, Bees
3.01 Alex Winterhalter, Cubs

AL WINS
23 Bob Guilderson, Tigers
21 Jethro Lee, Senators
20 George Bowers, Indians

NL WINS
20 Punchy Cote, Cubs
20 Frank Smith, Dodgers
19 Abraham Dickens, Cardinals

AL STRIKEOUTS
175 Jethro Lee, Senators
149 Bob Guilderson, Tigers
134 Luke Riley, Yankees

NL STRIKEOUTS
161 Roy Mills, Reds
156 Frank Smith, Dodgers
150 Punchy Cote, Cubs

Ancestors:

I'm such a bum... I'm gonna pass on doing this section again, go ahead and sim the rest of the season and get the web pages updated so you can check out everything for yourselves tonight... This part takes me about a 1/2 hr to do, so in order for me to get the season completed tonight, I'm gonna skip this... my apologies.
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September 1940

The Yankees dropped 3-of-5 games to the Senators this month, but that was not a difinitive defeat as Washington attempted to gain ground. On September 26th, New York beat Boston and claimed their 7th pennant in 10 years.

The Cardinals were a major force in the pennant race, actually passing the Cubs for a time. St. Louis won 5-of-6 games against Chicago this month, essentially knocking the Cubs out of the race. However, the Cardinals struggled against the Reds and Pirates and could not make up enough ground on Brooklyn. On the 25th, these two teams opened up a series against each other. The Dodgers won the first game 8-5 and clinched a 2nd consecutive pennant, setting up a rematch with the Yankees.

American League-Pitcher of the Month:
Mickey Lonergan (PHA)!
He had a record of 7-0 in 7 games started, with an ERA of 1.62 and 1 shutouts.

American League-Batter of the Month:
Gordon "Scotty" McCarthy (CHA)!
He batted .400 in 70 AB, with 4 homers and 21 RBI.

National League-Pitcher of the Month:
Brett Smith (STL)!
He had a record of 6-1 in 7 games started, with an ERA of 1.92 and 1 shutouts. After being acquired by the Cardinals on 7/31, he went 9-2 and was a huge part of the pennant drive, going 3-0 against the Cubs and Dodgers in September.

National League-Batter of the Month:
Bud Breckenridge (PIT)!
He batted .327 in 104 AB, with 7 homers and 27 RBI.


Code:
American League Standings 
  
New York (A)     97 57 .630 -
Washington       89 65 .578 8.0
Boston (A)       78 76 .506 19.0
Chicago (A)      72 82 .468 25.0 
Cleveland        72 82 .468 25.0
St. Louis (A)    71 83 .461 26.0
Philadelphia (A) 70 84 .455 27.0
Detroit          67 87 .435 30.0
 
National League Standings 
 
Brooklyn         89 65 .578 -
Chicago (N)      83 71 .539 6.0
St. Louis (N)    81 73 .526 8.0
New York (N)     79 75 .513 10.0
Philadelphia (N) 75 79 .487 14.0
Cincinnati       70 84 .455 19.0
Pittsburgh       70 84 .455 19.0
Boston (N)       69 85 .448 20.0
World Series

Brooklyn finally got to enjoy the limelight in the big city by defeating the Yankees in last season's World Series. The Dodgers are out to put their mark on New York baseball history, while the Yankees hope to win yet another championship, but their first since they won 4 straight from 1933-36.

The Dodgers have relied on strong pitching all season long, but they will be without Stephen Dzurik (11-10, 4.02), and Edwin Impens (18-11, 3.86) is nursing an ailing back but should pitch Game 2. Their offense was still one of the best in the majors, despite the fact that Oscar Vancini, at age 35, dipped to 33 homeruns and 98 RBI this season. His longball total still led the NL, but it is a big drop from the 59 he hit last season along with a major league record 156 RBI. Jeff Bundy was steady as always and helped pick up the slack with 28 homers and 109 RBI. "Fancy" Flip DeLeon won his 2nd batting title, but as a testament to the drop in offense this season, he won it with a .327 mark, which is the lowest in major league history.

The Yankees have their own batting champ in Clarence Davis, who hit .388. Jimmy Ditty led the team with 32 homeruns and 105 RBI. However, it is pitching that has really led this team. They led the majors with a 3.29 ERA, and their top three starters each won over 20 games and all had an ERA at or below 3.08.

My Prediction: The Yankees went 21-8 over the end of the season and their pitching staff is stronger overall when compared to Brooklyn's. The Dodgers offense no longer outclasses New York's, so I expect the Yankees to win in 6 games.


Starting Lineups:

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Yankees
RF "Moonlight" Graham, .271, 60 RBI, 19 SB
3B Gus Kahle, .272, 15 HR, 58 RBI
CF Jimmy Ditty, .307, 32 HR, 105 RBI

LF Allen March, .266, 12 HR, 80 RBI
SS Clarence Davis, .388, 80 RBI, 24 SB
1B Louis Kirkes, .345, 68 RBI
2B Ervin Skjerly, .318, 46 RBI
C Chi Hung, .254, 49 RBI



SP #1 - Art Booth, 24-12, 3.08, 153 K
SP #2 - Luke Riley, 26-10, 2.84, 183 K
SP #3 - Hale Scheepers, 22-8, 2.62, 59 K

Emergency SP - Buddy Greenberg, 10-10, 4.10, 87 K
Closer - Steve Minnie, 3.45, 14 SV

Other Noteable Players:
1B Doc Reed, .293, 63 RBI
C Harry Finley, .222, 14 SB
2B Curt Rodd, .326 in 86 AB

Key Players on DL:
CF Ping Hung, .280, 26 SB in 200 AB

Dodgers
SS Jonny Perly, .278, 78 SB
3B Flip DeLeon, .327, 71 RBI
LF Oscar Vancini, .279, 33 HR, 98 RBI
1B Jeff Bundy, .294, 28 HR, 109 RBI
RF Jonathan Wright, .293, 13 HR, 75 RBI
2B Brad Coffenberger, .311, 77 RBI
CF Mickey McWhorter, .276, 50 RBI, 25 SB
C Moe Sieferman, .268, 51 RBI

SP #1 - Frank Smith, 23-13, 2.18, 190 K
SP #2 - Edwin Impens, 18-11, 3.86, 146 K
SP #3 - Remmy Paul, 13-7, 4.25 ERA, 81 K

Emergency SP - James Kinlaw, 10-11, 4.87, 102 K
Closer - Jay Audet, 6.00 ERA, 6 Sv

Key Players on DL:
SP Stephen Dzurik, 11-10, 4.02, 46 K
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Frank Smith may need to win 3 games this Series for Brooklyn to win.
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WORLD SERIES

Yankees 8 - Dodgers 6: These two teams surprisingly scored a lot of runs off Frank Smith and Art Booth. The score was tied 2-2 after the 6th and remained that way until the top of the 9th when catcher Chi Hung and pinch hitter Doc Reed led off with back-to-back doubles.

Yankees 6 - Dodgers 2: As the game went on, it became obvious that Brooklyn's Edwin Impens had not completely gotten over his back problems. He allowed 6 runs, and Luke Riley had a relatively easy game until the 9th. In that inning, Brooklyn got 3 consecutive singles with one out, loading the bases. Riley got Jonathan Wright to pop out and Brad Coffenberger to fly out, ending the game.

Dodgers 2 - Yankees 3: Brooklyn scored 2 runs in the first inning, but that was all they got as Hale Scheepers took command of the game. New York scored a single run in each of the 2nd, 3rd and 4th innings to take a lead that they never gave back.

Dodgers 3 - Yankees 5: Down 3-1 in the 4th inning, pitcher Art Booth hit a solo homerun off Frank Smith, the first homerun by a pitcher in World Series history. In that same inning, Jimmy Ditty clubbed a 3-run dinger with two outs, giving New York a 5-3 lead that they never relenquished.


First baseman Louis Kirkes, acquired from the White Sox on July 31st, was named World Series MVP. He hit .462 with a homerun, 3 RBI, 4 runs scored and a 1.379 OPS.
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A few events of note occurred in 1940:
  • "Fat Gus" Kahle had his 3000th career hit on 4/25/1940, off of Jethro Lee
  • Otto Kahle won his 300th game in mid-August. At only 34 years old, he has an outside shot at 400 wins.
  • Sam Kass is now the career RBI leader with 1763
  • Adolf Greisbach managed to get 7 hits on 8/14/40, but was unable to knock anyone in.
  • Contrary to reports, the trade that sent ace Brett Smith to the Cardinals didn't just involve 3 "prospects". The players in the deal were Marty "Uncle" Davie, Skeeter Schaldemose...the #1 prospect in baseball, and Peyton "Flamethrower" Arana. This could end up being one of the biggest trades of the past 20 years. Reds' fans should be happy for a long time.
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