The Base Ball Life of Patrick O'Farrell: Hall of Fame Thread

[Big Six]

There are 11 votes in so far, and I'll probably end the election tomorrow. I had only planned on running it for a week, but I got busy and didn't have as much OOTP time as I thought I'd have.

Not a record turnout, then...just about the same as usual, in fact. Thanks for asking.

[Big Six]

The Baseball Hall of Fame will be inducting two more players into the ranks of the immortals, including a player who has waited several years for the honor.

Pol Perritt, not surprisingly, was mentioned on all eleven ballots cast in this year’s election. Sandy Piez, one of the game’s greatest leadoff hitters and base thieves, has also earned a plaque after gathering strong support in several previous elections.

Nine votes were allowed for election, which means that Mike Konnick fell barely short of enshrinement in his second year of eligibility. Konnick received 72.7% of the vote, the nearest miss in the history of the balloting. He, and the other players listed below, will appear on next year’s ballot, barring a change in the Hall’s election policies.

Here are the complete results of the 1935 balloting. Congratulations to Pol Perritt and Sandy Piez, the newest members of the Baseball Hall of Fame!

Pol Perritt: 11
Sandy Piez: 9
Mike Konnick: 8
Ted Easterly: 6
Jack Chesbro: 5
George Sisler: 5
Jack Coombs: 4
Harry Heilmann: 4
Harry Hooper: 4
Fred Luderus: 4
George Dauss: 3
Tommy Leach: 3
Tommy McMillan: 3
George Mullin: 3
Simon Nicholls: 3
Jeff Tesreau: 3
Eddie Collins: 2
Larry Doyle: 2
Bubbles Hargrave: 2
Art Nehf: 2
Tex Pruiett: 2
Bert Sincock: 2
Buck Weaver: 2
Roy Castleton: 1
Ray Chapman: 1
Jack Powell: 1
Jack Roche: 1

Bevo Lebourveau failed to receive a vote, and will be dropped from the 1936 ballot.

Thanks to all of you who voted in this year's election.

[Big Six]

What would you think about raising the percentage of votes a player must have each year to remain on the ballot to 10% from 5%?

In reality, this would mean that players who receive one vote in an election would be dropped from the ballot.

I'd appreciate some feedback, and as you're thinking about it, I'll be getting the 1936 ballot ready to go.

[Big Six]

It's time once again for a Hall of Fame election in the world of Pat O'Farrell. There are three new faces on the 1936 ballot: a catcher and a shortstop who excelled both at bat and in the field, and a hard-hitting outfielder with a rifle arm. You'll recognize many other stars who have been on the ballot for several years.

As mentioned in the previous post, I'm thinking about one change to the rules, which are posted at the top of this thread. You may submit your ballot to me (Big Six) via private message, or you may post it in the thread so we'll all know whose credentials you support this year.

Please submit your ballots by Tuesday, July 4.

Short summaries of the careers of all the players on this year's ballot are listed below. The names of newly eligible players are highlighted in red.

Thanks for participating in this year's election. We'll see you in Cooperstown!


1936 Hall of Fame Ballot

PITCHERS:

ROY CASTLETON: 1907-1924
247-200, 3.48. Toiled for Yankees and Dodgers teams that were usually mediocre, but ran off a string of nine consecutive seasons with at least 18 victories, including five 20-win campaigns. American League MOP, 1917 (23-12, 2.98). Five All-Star selections.

JACK CHESBRO: 1899-1912
240-158, 2.84. Five 20-win seasons, three after simulation began. Three-time All-Star.

JACK COOMBS: 1906-1921
236-163, 3.21. Won 20 or more games five times; Fractured Skull and Ruptured Disc Back cost him that milestone in 2 other seasons. Eight All-Star appearances. MOP, 1911 (26-12, 2.99).

GEORGE DAUSS: 1912-1929
204-114, 3.44. Winning percentage of .642 is best all-time among 200-game winners. 1269 K, only 467 walks in 2907 innings. Four-time All-Star who won at least 20 games for Red Sox in 5 consecutive seasons, 1922-1926. Three World Series rings.

GEORGE MULLIN: 1902-1921
277-237, 3.18. Won at least 20 games five times as ace of outstanding Detroit teams of the teens. One World Series ring.

ART NEHF: 1917-1932
209-131, 3.43. 1136 strikeouts, 25 shutouts. 1918 AL MOP (25-7, 2.41). Five times a 20-game winner; six times an All-Star. Four times a World Series winners with the Red Sox.

JACK POWELL: 1897-1911
261-230, 3.18. Pitched for subpar Browns teams most of his career. Won 20 or more games six times, three in the simulation. Two All-Star appearances.

TEX PRUIETT: 1907-1919
204-139, 3.02. Five times a 20-game winner for the Red Sox dynasty of the 'teens. Clutch performer on six pennant winners and five World Series champion teams. Five All-Star appearances. ERA champion in 1908 (2.02).

BERT SINCOCK: 1908-1927
45-37, 3.30, 106 saves. The first great relief pitcher in major league history, Sincock holds the all-time saves record. A seven-time All-Star who led the league in saves seven times. Holds the National League record for saves in a season with 15. Spent his entire career with the Reds, as part of the great staff that led them to pennants and World Series triumphs in the 1910s.

JEFF TESREAU: 1912-1927
240-161, 3.77. Won 20 or more games in eight consecutive seasons, 1914-1921. A seven-time All-Star who also enjoyed success as a reliever late in his career, saving 13 games. Won three World Series with the Giants.


POSITION PLAYERS:

JOHNNY BASSLER: 1915-1933
.287-78-1040. 1907 hits, 907 runs, 1068 walks. Lifetime OBP of .384. Outstanding defensive player who won six Slick Fielder awards. Three times an All-Star. Won six World Series rings with Red Sox in 1920s and 1930s.

RAY CHAPMAN: 1912-1930
.290-45-904. 2251 hits, 1137 runs, 356 doubles, 179 triples, 488 steals. Hit over .300 five times, and made two All-Star teams. Mainstay on Red Sox championship teams of the late teens and twenties. Won two Slick Fielder awards.

EDDIE COLLINS: 1906-1927
.305-24-837. 1946 hits. 975 runs scored, 343 steals. Made seven All-Star teams as a shortstop for Philadelphia teams in the 1910s. Won three Slick Fielder awards.

LARRY DOYLE: 1907-1926
.300-89-1052. 2429 hits, 1217 runs scored. Five times an All-Star with the White Sox. Won a Series ring with the '08 Giants. Three Slick Fielder awards at 2B.

TED EASTERLY: 1909-1922
.321-9-643. Lifetime average is best among catchers. 1411 hits. Four All-Star selections. Won 3 World Series with Giants of late 10s/early 20s.

BUBBLES HARGRAVE: 1913-1930
.319-74-906. 1907 hits, 940 runs, 375 doubles. This four-time All-Star catcher won a Slick Fielder award and hit over .300 ten times. Hit .374 in 1920, .367 in 1921, and .364 in 1924; finished second in batting race twice. A key component of outstanding Cubs teams of the 1920s.

HARRY HEILMANN: 1914-1932
.303-163-1368. 2344 hits, 1225 runs, 555 doubles. Career OPS of .843. AL MOB, 1922 (.360-17-158). Hit over .300 for eight consecutive seasons in 1920s. Six All-Star appearances.

HARRY HOOPER: 1910-1930
.285-76-1091. 2592 hits, 1586 runs (9th all time), 382 doubles, 191 triples (10th among retired players), 1028 walks, 508 steals. Made three All-Star teams and won five Slick Fielder awards. Starred on four World Series champion Red Sox teams.

CHARLIE HOLLOCHER: 1918-1933
.298-79-796. 1954 hits, 1038 runs scored. 1918 Rookie of the Year; hit .350 that season. Five seasons over .300. Lifetime OBP .358. Won two Slick Fielder awards at shortstop. Member of two World Championship teams.

MIKE KONNICK: 1909-1931
.305-76-1117. 2375 hits, 1137 runs scored, .392 career OBP, 1140 walks. Played his entire career with Cincinnati, appearing in four different decades. Leads all catchers in several offensive categories. Played on three World Series teams in the 1910s.

TOMMY LEACH: 1898-1916
.295-63-1160. 2684 hits, 1428 runs scored. Six All-Star appearances. Won WS rings with Pirates in 1905 and 1907.

FRED LUDERUS: 1909-1925
.329-59-926. 2062 hits. Batting average is 8th best among retired players. Five All-Star selections. AL MOB, 1919 (.379-3-102, 2nd with .911 OPS)

TOMMY McMILLAN: 1908-1924
.294-20-743. 2344 hits, 1306 runs scored, 647 steals. Excellent glove man--won 5 NL Slick Fielder awards at short during his career with the Dodgers and Reds. 3 All-Star appearances. Starred on 1915 Reds NL championship team.

BOB MEUSEL: 1920-1933
.317-161-1109. 2115 hits, 476 doubles, 145 triples. Slugged .504 lifetime. Standout for Yankees, Reds, and Cardinals. Batted over .300 nine times, with career best .386-13-123 in 1921. Two-time All-Star. Two Slick Fielder awards. Won World Championship with Cardinals in 1926.

SIMON NICHOLLS: 1903, 1906-1923
.296-118-1127. 2674 hits. 1270 runs scored. Finished in top ten in homers seven times. Four-time All-Star. One Slick Fielder award at SS.

JACK ROCHE: 1914-1929
.314-40-724. 1532 hits, 252 doubles, 78 triples. Only one catcher who is eligible for HOF has a higher lifetime average (Easterly). Starred for fine Cardinals teams that won 3 World Series titles with Roche behind the plate. Made National League All-Star squad 5 times. Also a fine defensive catcher, with 4 Slick Fielder awards.

GEORGE SISLER: 1915-1930
.300-128-1211. 2378 hits, 377 doubles, 172 triples, 1128 runs scored. Finest defensive first baseman in history; won a record 12 consecutive Slick Fielder awards. Made AL All-Star team five times.

BUCK WEAVER: 1912-1929
.299-91-812. 2265 hits, 1191 runs scored, 326 doubles, 151 triples, 545 stolen bases. Fixture at shortstop for White Sox; made 4 All-Star teams. Won 2 Slick Fielder awards. Hit safely in 43 straight games in 1920 for a major league record.

[John P. Yuda]

You already know my feelings: I think that the a player should need at least 2 votes to stay on the ballot. Perhaps the rule can simply be "5% or 2 votes, whichever is higher"?

[burnstuff]

Pitchers:
Roy Castleton
Jack Coombs
George Dauss
Art Nehf
Tex Pruiett

Batters:
Johnny Bassler
Harry Heilmann
Harry Hooper
Jack Roche
George Sisler

[William4192]

no, keep it at 5%

[William4192]

PITCHERS:

ROY CASTLETON: 1907-1924
247-200, 3.48. Toiled for Yankees and Dodgers teams that were usually mediocre, but ran off a string of nine consecutive seasons with at least 18 victories, including five 20-win campaigns. American League MOP, 1917 (23-12, 2.98). Five All-Star selections.

JACK CHESBRO: 1899-1912
240-158, 2.84. Five 20-win seasons, three after simulation began. Three-time All-Star.


GEORGE MULLIN: 1902-1921
277-237, 3.18. Won at least 20 games five times as ace of outstanding Detroit teams of the teens. One World Series ring.


JACK POWELL: 1897-1911
261-230, 3.18. Pitched for subpar Browns teams most of his career. Won 20 or more games six times, three in the simulation. Two All-Star appearances.

BERT SINCOCK: 1908-1927
45-37, 3.30, 106 saves. The first great relief pitcher in major league history, Sincock holds the all-time saves record. A seven-time All-Star who led the league in saves seven times. Holds the National League record for saves in a season with 15. Spent his entire career with the Reds, as part of the great staff that led them to pennants and World Series triumphs in the 1910s.



POSITION PLAYERS:

LARRY DOYLE: 1907-1926
.300-89-1052. 2429 hits, 1217 runs scored. Five times an All-Star with the White Sox. Won a Series ring with the '08 Giants. Three Slick Fielder awards at 2B.



HARRY HOOPER: 1910-1930
.285-76-1091. 2592 hits, 1586 runs (9th all time), 382 doubles, 191 triples (10th among retired players), 1028 walks, 508 steals. Made three All-Star teams and won five Slick Fielder awards. Starred on four World Series champion Red Sox teams.


MIKE KONNICK: 1909-1931
.305-76-1117. 2375 hits, 1137 runs scored, .392 career OBP, 1140 walks. Played his entire career with Cincinnati, appearing in four different decades. Leads all catchers in several offensive categories. Played on three World Series teams in the 1910s.

TOMMY LEACH: 1898-1916
.295-63-1160. 2684 hits, 1428 runs scored. Six All-Star appearances. Won WS rings with Pirates in 1905 and 1907.


BUCK WEAVER: 1912-1929
.299-91-812. 2265 hits, 1191 runs scored, 326 doubles, 151 triples, 545 stolen bases. Fixture at shortstop for White Sox; made 4 All-Star teams. Won 2 Slick Fielder awards. Hit safely in 43 straight games in 1920 for a major league record.

[liamdaly]

Coombs
Tesreau
Chesbro

Hargrave
Heilmann
Chapman
McMillan
Hooper
Weaver

[RoyalsBlue]

1936 Hall of Fame Ballot

PITCHERS:

JACK CHESBRO: 1899-1912
240-158, 2.84. Five 20-win seasons, three after simulation began. Three-time All-Star.

GEORGE MULLIN: 1902-1921
277-237, 3.18. Won at least 20 games five times as ace of outstanding Detroit teams of the teens. One World Series ring.

POSITION PLAYERS:

LARRY DOYLE: 1907-1926
.300-89-1052. 2429 hits, 1217 runs scored. Five times an All-Star with the White Sox. Won a Series ring with the '08 Giants. Three Slick Fielder awards at 2B.

HARRY HEILMANN: 1914-1932
.303-163-1368. 2344 hits, 1225 runs, 555 doubles. Career OPS of .843. AL MOB, 1922 (.360-17-158). Hit over .300 for eight consecutive seasons in 1920s. Six All-Star appearances.

HARRY HOOPER: 1910-1930
.285-76-1091. 2592 hits, 1586 runs (9th all time), 382 doubles, 191 triples (10th among retired players), 1028 walks, 508 steals. Made three All-Star teams and won five Slick Fielder awards. Starred on four World Series champion Red Sox teams.

MIKE KONNICK: 1909-1931
.305-76-1117. 2375 hits, 1137 runs scored, .392 career OBP, 1140 walks. Played his entire career with Cincinnati, appearing in four different decades. Leads all catchers in several offensive categories. Played on three World Series teams in the 1910s.

TOMMY LEACH: 1898-1916
.295-63-1160. 2684 hits, 1428 runs scored. Six All-Star appearances. Won WS rings with Pirates in 1905 and 1907.

SIMON NICHOLLS: 1903, 1906-1923
.296-118-1127. 2674 hits. 1270 runs scored. Finished in top ten in homers seven times. Four-time All-Star. One Slick Fielder award at SS.

GEORGE SISLER: 1915-1930
.300-128-1211. 2378 hits, 377 doubles, 172 triples, 1128 runs scored. Finest defensive first baseman in history; won a record 12 consecutive Slick Fielder awards. Made AL All-Star team five times.

BUCK WEAVER: 1912-1929
.299-91-812. 2265 hits, 1191 runs scored, 326 doubles, 151 triples, 545 stolen bases. Fixture at shortstop for White Sox; made 4 All-Star teams. Won 2 Slick Fielder awards. Hit safely in 43 straight games in 1920 for a major league record.[/QUOTE]

[Y0DA55]

Coombs
Dauss
Sincock
Tesreau

Easterly
Heilmann
Hooper
Konnick
Luderus
Sisler

[Big Six]

Thanks for the ballots, everyone. It looks like several players have a good chance to get in this year, so if you're reading along and have been wondering if you should cast a ballot, please do so. You might cast a deciding vote!

[Renner]

Mullin
Sisler
Konnick
Doyle
Hooper
Luderus
Pruiett
Meusel
Tesreau

[Tyke]

Coombs
Powell
Collins
Easterley
Hargrave
Heilman
Luderus
Roche

I would opt for 2 votes min. to stay on the ballot

[John P. Yuda]

A couple of quick notes:

It looks like Simon Nicholls has just missed out on getting into the hall. For a couple of elections in a row, he was drawing 6 votes -- including at least one election when 7 would have gotten him in. Now, his support has waned a bit and he's down to 3 votes. I admit to having had him on my ballot at one point but dropping him off more recently.

There are four catchers on the ballot right now: Ted Easterly, Bubbles Hargrave, Mike Konnick and Jack Roche. Take a look at their stats:

* Ted Easterly (1909-22): .321-9-643, 4 time all-star
* Bubbles Hargrave (1913-1930): .319-74-906, 4 time all-star, 1 time slick fielder
* Mike Konnick (1909-1931): .305-76-1117
* Jack Roche (1914-1929): .314-40-724, 5 time all-star, 4 time slick fielder

In the last election, Konnick had 8 votes, Easterly 6, Hargrave 2 and Roche 1. I don't understand this: they're all basically the same player. I'd say voters are penalizing those with shorter careers, but Easterly had the shortest of the list. I'm also confused that nobody seems to be paying much attention to the defensive side of their accomplishments.

[William4192]

To follow up Yuda:

Growing up being a catcher through High School, I have a soft spot for catchers. I voted for Easterly last time and I dropped him this time. The thing that bothers me about the other 3 is the number of career hits. Under 2,000 is very low to me. Which is why Konnick gets my vote this year and not the other three.

As time as progressed, I've sort of set 2,000 as the MIN for me, but I'm willing to break that (total hits). I like Easterly's lifetime average and depending on who is up next season, he may well "earn" my vote back. I wrestled over Buck Weaver's vote and in the end he got it from me this year.

[English_Ray]

I've just finished reading the whole of the main thread - great stuff! - and couldn't pass up on the opportunity to cast my votes here, so...

Ray Castleton
Jack Chesbro
Art Nehf

Johnny Bassler
Bubbles Hargrave
Harry Heilmann
Jack Roche
George Sisler

[Big Six]

Originally Posted by English_Ray

I've just finished reading the whole of the main thread - great stuff! - and couldn't pass up on the opportunity to cast my votes here, so...

Ray Castleton
Jack Chesbro
Art Nehf

Johnny Bassler
Bubbles Hargrave
Harry Heilmann
Jack Roche
George Sisler

Thanks for your kind comments, Ray, and for your HoF ballot, too. I hope you'll become a regular reader and voter.

I've been working on a synopsis of the Pat O'Farrell story, which I'll post as a separate thread. I've had a couple of people IM me and tell me things like "Great dynasty...but there's no way I can read the whole thing!" The synopsis will let people who don't want to read 1,000 posts catch up with the story in one sitting.

Thanks again, Ray. Hope you'll become a "regular" Pat O'Farrell fan.

[CONN CHRIS]

Jeff Tesreau
Jack Coombs
Jack Chesbro
Ted Easterly
Mike Konnick
Fred Luderus
George Mullin
Larry Doyle
George Sisler

[John P. Yuda]

I count at least 11 ballots (9 in the thread, my own via PM and at least one more from Big Six himself) -- let's get a couple more before this round of voting closes out!