davwms' Origin Generator - anyone ever get it to work? - Page 8

jmm8356 · 01-13-2005, 11:22 AM

If you're talking about OOTP Originator, what it does is edits players' names and origins according to proportions you set between 15 available "countries" (counting Malleus Dei's historical names). The basic procedure is to Export Player General Info to CSV (in League Setup / Misc.), run Originator, then Import Player General Info once again to incorporate the changes into your league. (OriginsOnly only edits origins and only to American cities, IIRC.)

It's probably possible to make Originator produce players from 40 countries, if you could get them down into 10-15 "groups" or "regions" and then mess with the name/origin data files to have three or four countries' worth of origins in each file... but that'll probably be a lot of work.

enuttage · 01-13-2005, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jmm8356

It's probably possible to make Originator produce players from 40 countries, if you could get them down into 10-15 "groups" or "regions" and then mess with the name/origin data files to have three or four countries' worth of origins in each file... but that'll probably be a lot of work.

You interpreted my gibberish well.

This is exactly what I'd like to do. I'll play...

-E

Carlton · 01-13-2005, 07:16 PM

Haven't read the whole thread but wanted to mention something

Malleus Dei's names are spot on for 1901 fictional...but his last name file is all CAPITALIZED.

What a pain in the butt...I had to edit 99% of my players, only the 5% English players were easy.

jmm8356 · 01-14-2005, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlton

Haven't read the whole thread but wanted to mention something

Malleus Dei's names are spot on for 1901 fictional...but his last name file is all CAPITALIZED.

What a pain in the butt...I had to edit 99% of my players, only the 5% English players were easy.

I seem to remember using MSWord to change them all to mixed case like that *snap* ... but then I still went over each name to fix the capitalization for the McGraths, LaFontaines, etc.

SandMan · 01-14-2005, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlton

Haven't read the whole thread but wanted to mention something

Malleus Dei's names are spot on for 1901 fictional...but his last name file is all CAPITALIZED.

What a pain in the butt...I had to edit 99% of my players, only the 5% English players were easy.

Just bring the names into MS EXCEL in CSV format. in the cell to the right of the current name enter =PROPER($A$1) with the $1 being the row number. Copy this formula and past it for all the rest of the names, took me about 1 second to process. Then all you do is cut column B (CNTRL C) and do a PASTE SPECIAL by VALUE from the EDIT Menu and place date into the A column overwriting the data. Make sure to copy the file before doing this in case you make an error.....

I think the proper function may also fix most Mc names also converting Mcdonald to McDonald...not sure because the data set is not on this computer....

SandMan · 01-14-2005, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jmm8356

If you're talking about OOTP Originator, what it does is edits players' names and origins according to proportions you set between 15 available "countries" (counting Malleus Dei's historical names). The basic procedure is to Export Player General Info to CSV (in League Setup / Misc.), run Originator, then Import Player General Info once again to incorporate the changes into your league. (OriginsOnly only edits origins and only to American cities, IIRC.)

It's probably possible to make Originator produce players from 40 countries, if you could get them down into 10-15 "groups" or "regions" and then mess with the name/origin data files to have three or four countries' worth of origins in each file... but that'll probably be a lot of work.

I have used the Originator to produce my own sets. You can do upto 20 origins. I created a Wisconsin Only orgin file with all the cities, towns and villages in the State of Wisconsin (easily found on the net) got the populations and simply divided the number of people in each municipality by the number of people in the state and gave it a pct. But some locations were under 1.0 so I simply used 50000 as a basis and everything worked great. I used MD names list for names. I edited the Originators dat file so that the only option on the list is WISCONSIN.

I am sure that this can be done for any Origin and Names List. Did not take to long (about 3 hours to create the Origins list). This would not take that long for different countries because you probably will not add every city, village and town. The names list would take a lot of research, though....

You cannot put multiple countries into one origins files for 1 reason. You can only assign one name file to the origins file. Can you imagine putting FRANCE and GERMANY in one file and getting a player born in BONN, FRG but getting the name PIERRE JAGERSCHMIDT or JOACHIM ST. PIERRE????

jmm8356 · 01-15-2005, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SandMan

You cannot put multiple countries into one origins files for 1 reason. You can only assign one name file to the origins file. Can you imagine putting FRANCE and GERMANY in one file and getting a player born in BONN, FRG but getting the name PIERRE JAGERSCHMIDT or JOACHIM ST. PIERRE????

That is a concern

... but I think you could 'group' them into similar enough countries to make it work... say US and UK (and maybe Canada), Germany and Austria and Switzerland... African, as well as Southeast Asian countries should group well too, unless you're the type of guy who can tell the difference between a Kenyan name and a Nigerian name, or a Thai name and a Laotian name... Myself, I doubt I could tell the difference between Chinese and Japanese names

so I bet it'd be no problem for me.

A city/country mismatch is not a possibility, I don't think, as the country abbreviations are listed with the cities in the data files.

Maximus · 02-16-2005, 03:25 AM

OK, I just ran this great program but I had one issue and I can not seem to find it amonng alll of the name files. After follwoing the directions (to a tee & I didnt open the csv file either) I went on to my fantasy draft and looked at the names. I noticed one player having a "box" for name. No last name and no first name, just a "box". I imagine there is a fault somewhere in the name files. Has anyone encountered this and if so where is the faulty name? Thanks in advance.

Maximus · 02-17-2005, 06:05 PM

Anyone here know what that this can be? Has anyone found this problem in thier uses?

gubaru · 02-17-2005, 06:39 PM

I haven't noticed anything like this. What is the country of origin for the player? That might help narrow it down some.

Maximus · 02-17-2005, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gubaru

I haven't noticed anything like this. What is the country of origin for the player? That might help narrow it down some.

No country or origin is given. All the player had was his age, his height and weight. The name was only a "box shape" figure. Lol, I would show you an example but I forgot what key it is.

SandMan · 02-17-2005, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximus

Anyone here know what that this can be? Has anyone found this problem in thier uses?

This is not caused by any one origin. I use only the us and md name files and I had this happen a while back....

I had a name of a minor leaguer with just a box once. His p # was the last one in the list so I believe that their is a bug that gets hit where an invalid character is placed in the name field rather than a name or that no data is being put in all the bytes of the field and it is being seen as an odd char. I just manually edit the one name and it did not matter to me what I named him because he was an A ball player with 1 star......

This has only happened to me once and I have used the converter on over 300 seasons.....

koohead · 03-07-2005, 01:51 AM

Just found this utility. Great find!!!

My only question is...do I need to rerun it each year before the draft? After the draft?

Maximus · 03-07-2005, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by koohead

Just found this utility. Great find!!!

My only question is...do I need to rerun it each year before the draft? After the draft?

Yes. Before the draft.

octones · 03-07-2005, 05:14 PM

If you run this each season before the draft will it change everyone or just those who don't fall into the naming/origin criteria selected?

koohead · 03-07-2005, 06:23 PM

Looks like it only changes those with Origin set to "USA" and "Canada" and the likes of that...so those that have already been changed won't be changed again (although that would be kinda fun...new names every year!)

octones · 03-07-2005, 09:54 PM

Thanks

Wouldn't be fun if it's an online league

John Manard · 03-08-2005, 09:01 AM

I ran this once and it came up file size wrong or too big or something? ANyone have this errror? I ran the program at the end of my season. Not sure if that is the problem. Im going to progess to the next season tonight and try again. But anyone no if the problem was the "When" of my using the program?

Thanks
John

Cooleyvol · 05-25-2005, 11:33 AM

OK, here's my situation:

In the PC, I change manually some of the origins. Most just show USA.

I don't want the ones I've already edited to change, but would like to change the origins of the players with USA as their origin.

Can someone tell me the steps to do this if its at all possible?

I don't want to change names either..................which program do I need?

dcpcarmona · 05-25-2005, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cooleyvol

OK, here's my situation:

In the PC, I change manually some of the origins. Most just show USA.

I don't want the ones I've already edited to change, but would like to change the origins of the players with USA as their origin.

Can someone tell me the steps to do this if its at all possible?

I don't want to change names either..................which program do I need?

I am in the same boat and was wondering the same thing. Couldn't you/we just use the originator and replace existing us name files (both first and last) to one of your/our liking, and just use us origins within the originator? Just a thought.

dcc

01-13-2005, 11:22 AM	#141
jmm8356 All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Lafayette IN (by way of Tonawanda NY) Posts: 1,673	If you're talking about OOTP Originator, what it does is edits players' names and origins according to proportions you set between 15 available "countries" (counting Malleus Dei's historical names). The basic procedure is to Export Player General Info to CSV (in League Setup / Misc.), run Originator, then Import Player General Info once again to incorporate the changes into your league. (OriginsOnly only edits origins and only to American cities, IIRC.) It's probably possible to make Originator produce players from 40 countries, if you could get them down into 10-15 "groups" or "regions" and then mess with the name/origin data files to have three or four countries' worth of origins in each file... but that'll probably be a lot of work. __________________ Jeremy from Tonawanda --- Go Cubbies! --- Unofficial Theta Tester(tm) "Oh, we got both kinds. We got country and western!" From OOTP 6: Designated for Assignment FAQ (Includes both problems and solutions! Ooooo! )

01-13-2005, 07:16 PM	#143
Carlton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,765	Haven't read the whole thread but wanted to mention something Malleus Dei's names are spot on for 1901 fictional...but his last name file is all CAPITALIZED. What a pain in the butt...I had to edit 99% of my players, only the 5% English players were easy. __________________ "I am at that stage of my life where I keep myself out of arguments. I am 100% self sufficient spiritually, emotionally & financially. Even if you say 1+1=5, you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. Enjoy!"

03-07-2005, 01:51 AM	#153
koohead Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 3,211	Need to rerun each year? Just found this utility. Great find!!! My only question is...do I need to rerun it each year before the draft? After the draft? __________________ GM - New Jersey Bears of the NPBL;

03-07-2005, 05:14 PM	#155
octones Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 226	If you run this each season before the draft will it change everyone or just those who don't fall into the naming/origin criteria selected? __________________

03-07-2005, 06:23 PM	#156
koohead Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 3,211	running for future years Looks like it only changes those with Origin set to "USA" and "Canada" and the likes of that...so those that have already been changed won't be changed again (although that would be kinda fun...new names every year!) __________________ GM - New Jersey Bears of the NPBL;

02-16-2005, 03:25 AM	#148
Maximus Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 417	OK, I just ran this great program but I had one issue and I can not seem to find it amonng alll of the name files. After follwoing the directions (to a tee & I didnt open the csv file either) I went on to my fantasy draft and looked at the names. I noticed one player having a "box" for name. No last name and no first name, just a "box". I imagine there is a fault somewhere in the name files. Has anyone encountered this and if so where is the faulty name? Thanks in advance.

02-17-2005, 06:05 PM	#149
Maximus Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 417	Anyone here know what that this can be? Has anyone found this problem in thier uses?

02-17-2005, 06:39 PM	#150
gubaru Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Camp Hill, PA Posts: 326	I haven't noticed anything like this. What is the country of origin for the player? That might help narrow it down some.

03-07-2005, 09:54 PM	#157
octones Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 226	Thanks Wouldn't be fun if it's an online league __________________

03-08-2005, 09:01 AM	#158
John Manard Minors (Single A) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 97	I ran this once and it came up file size wrong or too big or something? ANyone have this errror? I ran the program at the end of my season. Not sure if that is the problem. Im going to progess to the next season tonight and try again. But anyone no if the problem was the "When" of my using the program? Thanks John __________________ Baltimore Orioles, Outlaw Baseball Leauge

05-25-2005, 11:33 AM	#159
Cooleyvol Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Union City, TN Posts: 6,383	OK, here's my situation: In the PC, I change manually some of the origins. Most just show USA. I don't want the ones I've already edited to change, but would like to change the origins of the players with USA as their origin. Can someone tell me the steps to do this if its at all possible? I don't want to change names either..................which program do I need?