Clutch

[garion333]

Hoiles and Syd nailed it on page 1. I'm shocked the discussion is going on still. Have we all been locked in too long?

[One Great Matrix]

I'll do the Best medium effort study I can do right now on Hernandez's career in particular situations that might have been particularly important vs. his average performance…now his average is his average, that's fine & true and represents his overall performance, & that's why even if the game does not account for some "clutch" factor, it works. There will be as little bias as possible in this study. Make what you make out of the numbers... This could sting. My proposition that he was clutch was based mostly on observation:

Oh, just a reminder before you begin processing the data, I started with just wondering if there was any clutch attributes given to the players in the game…which seemed to be interpreted as a proposition there SHOULD be.

Career .296 BA/.384 OBP/.436 SLG/.821 OPS

Wins .333 BA/.424 OBP/.500 SLG/.924 OPS (136 more of these games) (suggests maybe there were games where he just sort of turned it off but thought it a good idea)

Leading off an inning .292 BA/.362 OBP/.425 SLG/.786 OPS…(in his own words, kind of about the RBI steaks)…maybe I meant situational performance.
RISP (Runners in scoring position) .291 BA/.401 OBP/.451 SLG/.852 OPS
Runners on base .315 BA/.406 OBP/.475 SLG/.881 OPS
Bases Loaded .357/.361/.587/.948

Somehow I didn't even get to the clutch stats section they have (his favorite is the late & close stats and not apparently because his numbers were much better in those situations) (they were just a little better)…but most of the splits looked slightly above his normal statistics in that section with a few anomalies.

[CBeisbol]

Originally Posted by One Great Matrix

I'll do the Best medium effort study I can do right now on Hernandez's career in particular situations that might have been particularly important vs. his average performance…now his average is his average, that's fine & true and represents his overall performance, & that's why even if the game does not account for some "clutch" factor, it works. There will be as little bias as possible in this study. Make what you make out of the numbers... This could sting. My proposition that he was clutch was based mostly on observation:

Oh, just a reminder before you begin processing the data, I started with just wondering if there was any clutch attributes given to the players in the game…which seemed to be interpreted as a proposition there SHOULD be.

Career .296 BA/.384 OBP/.436 SLG/.821 OPS

Wins .333 BA/.424 OBP/.500 SLG/.924 OPS (136 more of these games) (suggests maybe there were games where he just sort of turned it off but thought it a good idea)

Leading off an inning .292 BA/.362 OBP/.425 SLG/.786 OPS…(in his own words, kind of about the RBI steaks)…maybe I meant situational performance.
RISP (Runners in scoring position) .291 BA/.401 OBP/.451 SLG/.852 OPS
Runners on base .315 BA/.406 OBP/.475 SLG/.881 OPS
Bases Loaded .357/.361/.587/.948

Somehow I didn't even get to the clutch stats section they have (his favorite is the late & close stats and not apparently because his numbers were much better in those situations) (they were just a little better)…but most of the splits looked slightly above his normal statistics in that section with a few anomalies.

Originally Posted by CBeisbol

Keith Hernandez
Regular Season: 8553 PA, .821 OPS
Playoffs: 138 PA, .729 OPS

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[One Great Matrix]

Okey doke,

Playoff Pitching

But teams have won the world series hitting as a team under .200.

1962 Yankees are one example.

[CBeisbol]

Originally Posted by One Great Matrix

Okey doke,

Playoff Pitching

Oh good. Then I can casually dismiss his RISP numbers as coming against regular season pitching.

I didn't realize that "clutch" meant fattening up your OPS by 100 points against 5th starters

Come on. Be intellectually honest.

Are you trying to sell the idea that either
1) Hernandez was able to up his game with RISP, runners on base and with the bases loaded in the regular season, but not in the playoffs AND that THAT is "clutch"
or
2) He did that all against non-playoff caliber pitchers in the regular season

What a load